Take-Two Pulls Plug on OpenIV; GTA Mod Tool Illegal

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Bad news for modders out there and GTA lovers. Take Two Interactive pulled the plug on a popular modding tool for GTA V and declared it illegal. The lead developer of OpenIV used by most modders, which let's other creators add mods into game, posted a message on the gtaforums of his cease and desist letter from the company. The mod's developer claims Take-Two's insistence of the program in defeating its security features and allowing third-party apps in to GTA V. It's lame to hear, after all the goodwill they've been building with the PC community with this recent release.

According to kotaku, as of now the tool is no longer available for download and users get the following prompt when launching OpenIV:

"Take-Two's actions were not specifically targeting single player mods. Unfortunately OpenIV enables recent malicious mods that allow harassment of players and interfere with the GTA Online experience for everybody. We are working to figure out how we can continue to support the creative community without negatively impacting our players."
 
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blah blah blah blah cash cards.

mods were cutting in to their play money micro(not really) transactions.

fuck you take 2.

luckily i can roll back my GTA V install before you went Bethesda and fucked everyone.

“You can’t give stuff away for free in perpetuity; there’s no business model in that,” he told the Cowen & Company media conference, according to GameSpot.

“But we’re not trying to optimise the monetisation of everything we do to the nth degree. My concern is, if you do that, the consumer knows. They might not even know that they know, but they feel it.”

GTA 5, which has sold-in 80 million copies over four years, and GTA Online, are still big digital earners for Take-Two.

All GTA Online content is released for free, but players can buy optional Shark Cards to spend real money on items and vehicles if they don’t want to earn currency in-game.

“We are convinced that we are probably from an industry view under-monetising on a per-user basis,” added Zelnick

“There is wood to chop because I think we can do more, and we can do more without interfering with our strategy of being the most creative and our ethical approach, which is delighting consumers. We’re not going to grab the last nickel,” he said.
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fucking disgusting.

https://www.vg247.com/2017/06/01/we...ays-publisher-of-gta-and-red-dead-redemption/



jimquisition video
 
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Master_shake_ said:
blah blah blah blah cash cards.

mods were cutting in to their play money micro(not really) transactions.

fuck you take 2.

luckily i can roll back my GTA V install before you went Bethesda and fucked everyone.



fucking disgusting.

https://www.vg247.com/2017/06/01/we...ays-publisher-of-gta-and-red-dead-redemption/



jimquisition video
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I've been waiting to pick it up once they stop screwing screwing with mods in the name of multiplayer like they eventually did with IV but maybe I'll be skipping it entirely. I don't give a rip about multiplayer and a GTA game without mods would be almost as bad as a Bethesda game without mods.

I still don't understand why they didn't do like they said they would and make it so you could install a moddable SP only version, my guess is console parity since they had just released the next gen version right before PC which just annoys me even more.
 
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
 
Hmm, I take it this will include the multiplayer custom non official server mods, like FiveM? That is/could be incredibly stupid given how popular GTAV's role play servers are. 10k viewers on twitch for some channels each day.

I like GTA Online, especially with friends but it often has hackers and griefers who ruin the game for many.
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
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So wrong. All wrong.
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.
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Most people use it for SP, some dickheads may edit the mod to use it in MP. That isn't the problem of the mod creator (who at least took some effort to keep it SP). TT could always drop a two week ban on people using it in MP or permaban new copies=more money.
OpenIV has been around for years, now that douchebag decided he wants more of that sweet micro transaction money, and 6 is mentioned....They now suddenly call it illegal and send a C&D to buddies workplace?

Edit: 640 posts, that ought to be enough for me :)
 
Can't believe I'm not the only one waiting it out.
I do the same with any beth game which are ALWAYS buggy shitheaps on launch in recent decade or so (sorry, aside from Doom).

I remember heavily modding GTASA and having a ball of a time, it looked almost as good as GTA IV, better texture resolution in some aspects even. Makes sense if 6 is coming that they'd be very unhappy if people did much the same.

edit: there was another mod recently shoah'd eh? Made GTA4 with GTA 5 map or something?


But hey, they made a client side open world online game and this is what they have to deal with..
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
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I only play on consoles because of this
 
I am the complete opposite of Mchart, and I think plenty of us here are like that.
I only care about the single player when it comes to GTA, and modding is a huge part of the appeal.
I do not think that taking down OpenIV is the cure-all for the multiplayer fuckery.
Take-two has handled the matter poorly, and I think they ought to suffer for this.
 
If you guys still want OpenIV there is a link in this youtube video for it. (Download Links Has been updated with Latest Version of OpenIV 2.9)
v2.9 I have it, so don't know what that message recommending you uninstall openiv to avoid legal issues LMAO that's the funniest shit i read. Yeah ok. how about I do not give a shit and yeah go ahead try to stop me, and to be a real asshole I will and I am at this moment seeding on a torrent site GTA V for the PC out of spite. Shit I feel like emailing Take-Two the link to the torrent site haha. Just for this bullshit move by Take-Two all current & future PC games from them I will torrent, sorry do not bite off the hand that feeds you :D
 
I expect all future Rockstar Games to suffer from having a lot of its content put behind multi-player grinding and pay walls with no single player expansions.

Even though GTA 5 is one of the most profitable non mmo games in history, it's never enough.

In gta 4 it would put you into a different lobby if you were using mods they should do something similar here. But that would cut into their precious shark card bullshit.
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
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No they don't, the fact that this is Rockstars excuse is pathetic lies laced PR bullshit and is only meant to derail the hate directed at them. OpenIV does NOT contribute to hacking, all it does is modify client side assets but it does not allow you to shoot money bags or fly around the map or speed hack. The most you can do is change what your car looks like or character. Hackers use trainers and injection techniques to actually implement the hacks you are talking about.
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
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While other 3rd party mods do allow for messing with the multiplayer, I believe OpenIV specifically only affected code for the single player game.
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
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I don't understand how the Take2 servers could not detect someone using mods? Aren't there anti cheat mechanisms in the game that would detect this?

It seems like Take2 would not be able to stop this bad experience from happening regardless if the Open IV mod tool exists or not as Take2 do not seem to be able to detect that it is happening.

Am I missing something here?
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
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i had most fun play game whit modders. long gone. :meh:

gta online is horrible made and mods makes it more fun. gta online is död it just texture updates.

High hopes to sell more sharks.
 
ruffbytes said:
I don't understand how the Take2 servers could not detect someone using mods? Aren't there anti cheat mechanisms in the game that would detect this?

It seems like Take2 would not be able to stop this bad experience from happening regardless if the Open IV mod tool exists or not as Take2 do not seem to be able to detect that it is happening.

Am I missing something here?
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GTA Online is P2P based.
 
Mchart said:
IMO people complaining about this don't seem to realize that this has been ruining GTA 5 online. With this tool it basically allows people to add in whatever they want in GTA5 online and has allowed for rampant hacking.

Yes - They really only care because it has been cutting into their cash card sales; but as someone who would like to enjoy GTA Online this tool has basically ruined the experience on the PC.

So complain all you want - This was less of a 'modding' tool and more of a cheat/hacking tool as it allowed players to circumvent normal gameplay aspects and spawn shit wherever they pleased completely ruining the experience for everyone in the process.

As an example just the other day I was trying to play and some jackass kept spawning cars in front of my plane so I couldn't take off. A lot of players, not just myself, have given up on GTA Online because of this.
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OpenIV can't be used for multiplayer. Using OpenIV disables multiplayer, by design.

The reason why cheats are so rampant is because Rockstar decided to save money by going with a P2P design rather than doing everything on the server. Blame them and their incompetent software design, not the mods.
 
Mchart said:
Yeah - Bullshit. The tool allows cheaters in the online mode, point blank. The developers of it even recognized that fact.
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No, the developers have been doing everything they can to prevent it from messing with GTA Online, going so far as to outright disable online features when it is used. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about and it shows. Take-Two's statement is pure bullshit and anyone that has paid attention to GTA modding knows this. Other tools have allowed online cheats, but that has never been the purpose of OpenIV. Rockstar has even admitted this, showcasing GTAV mods on their blog.
 
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