NeoNemesis
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1080p 60fps is what they should have shot for.
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You dont have to see ads for shit like candy crush while you find and launch the game?
If they can't scale back texture or geometry quality to get to 60fps, could they scale back the AI or physics?
I don't game at 4k..so..I don't care. Not one of the displays I play video games on is over 55", so 4k is pointless.
"If making it ugly won't work, couldn't they just ruin the game?"
What is this shit? Are you serious
That's not how it works... Unless you have really terrible eyes. I can /easily/ see a substantial difference going from 1080p to 1440p to 4K on a 40" display. I could tell at 28". You don't need a 55+" display to make 4K "worth it" or noticable.
The vast majority of the world doesn't give a blind rats ass about 4K. Make the damned thing run a beautiful game at 1080p with a butter smooth frame-rate well over 30fps and most people will be absolutely thrilled.
4K looks better for sure, even on smaller displays, but most people don't know and don't care.
As long as something better than your thing exists, somebody on the internet is going to pretend that one is the minimum and yours is garbage. That's the internet.
Dont forget, ms would prefer that the best version were the xbone since they get a cut per units sold, instead of windows, unless of course, the windows store takes off, which i hope it never happens.Technically, the ultimate gaming platform wouldn't have spyware or unnecessary bloat consuming resources.
Therefore the ultimate gaming platform for Destiny 2 will be Windows 7, or 8.1 with a start menu replacement.
Bungie/Activision certainly weren't going to limit their market by making it DX12 only and Windows 10 exclusive.
Still boggled why Sony barely upped the CPU on the Pro.
My computer lets me d.... Oh were talking about peasants again.Interesting that they don't allow the players to choose: I'd like 60fps 1080, or I'd like 30fps 4k, or I'd like to turn all the options off and run at WTF FTS, or something in between.
I mean, graphics options are a revolutionary idea. Obviously better to just pick one thing and run with it.
If players wanted options, they wouldn't have bought a console.Interesting that they don't allow the players to choose: I'd like 60fps 1080, or I'd like 30fps 4k, or I'd like to turn all the options off and run at WTF FTS, or something in between.
I mean, graphics options are a revolutionary idea. Obviously better to just pick one thing and run with it.
Over 400 Windows 10 installs, still looking on the network for all this spyware traffic everybody seems to be complaining about, I don't see any more data being uploaded to Microsoft than I do from the windows 7 machines. That aside even if they can't do a full 60 fps at 4K if they could get it so it never dropped below 30FPS at 4K it would still be a solid step in the right direction.
It's the most scared paranoid shit I've ever seen.People just need stuff to bitch about so they had to start making up stuff. Just like the summer of the shark. There was fewer shark attacks that summer than the 10 years leading up to it but they needed something to get people to latch onto so we got the summer of the shark. Shark attacks everywhere, stay out of all water as you never know when a shark might just materialize and kill you. Same here, there was nothing wasn't enough things on the list to bitch about for why you should avoid windows 10 so people had to start looking for reasons. And they jumped to features that have been in OSs and phones for many years and versions and started to call it new and the worst thing out there.
People just need stuff to bitch about so they had to start making up stuff. Just like the summer of the shark. There was fewer shark attacks that summer than the 10 years leading up to it but they needed something to get people to latch onto so we got the summer of the shark. Shark attacks everywhere, stay out of all water as you never know when a shark might just materialize and kill you. Same here, there was nothing wasn't enough things on the list to bitch about for why you should avoid windows 10 so people had to start looking for reasons. And they jumped to features that have been in OSs and phones for many years and versions and started to call it new and the worst thing out there.
1080p 60fps is what they should have shot for.
If players wanted options, they wouldn't have bought a console.
I don't game at 4k..so..I don't care. Not one of the displays I play video games on is over 55", so 4k is pointless.
Most pc's here wouldn't be able to run it at 60fps @4k. Some of you are underestimating what it takes to run 4k. You are going from rendering 2 million pixels @1080p to 8 million @4k.
Blame AMD, really. Zen APUs can't come fast enough.
Why does it always have to be 30 or 60? Obviously HDMI is limited at 60 fps, but if the Pro for example can't run Destiny 2 at 60 but it can at 30... well what about 40, 45, or 50? 45 fps would still look noticeably better then 30.
Interesting that they don't allow the players to choose: I'd like 60fps 1080, or I'd like 30fps 4k, or I'd like to turn all the options off and run at WTF FTS, or something in between.
I mean, graphics options are a revolutionary idea. Obviously better to just pick one thing and run with it.
Why does it always have to be 30 or 60? Obviously HDMI is limited at 60 fps, but if the Pro for example can't run Destiny 2 at 60 but it can at 30... well what about 40, 45, or 50? 45 fps would still look noticeably better then 30.
It's true, clock-for-clock the A57 is faster than Jaguar by about 1.2x.No wonder MS focused a lot of CPU overhead and CPU performance with Scorpio.
ARM cores are faster than Jaguar.
You know I used to game on a PC and it is powerful I6500 with 1070gtx and 16 gb DDR4. But since I bought a PRO and PSVR I find I prefer the console I use an old Phillips 6 year old 42" and 7.1 Sony Reciever really nice quality video and sound and games work fine. This whole 4k thing looks more like pure hype to me. Damned if I'll spend any more cash on the NEXT big thing.....
"If making it ugly won't work, couldn't they just ruin the game?"
What is this shit? Are you serious?
Uh, they could've made 4k60fps work if they designed the game with ps4pro limitations in mind... how people can't comprehend this is what I'm questioning.No no no! AI and physics already sucks on most games.
I think the developers were fully aware of the limitations of the Pro console, but the reason for making 4k only 30fps was because if they were going to make it function at 60fps, they would have had to sacrifice the game's functionality and features itself, thus making it a lesser game; i.e. fewer enemies, data connections, less physics, etc.Uh, they could've made 4k60fps work if they designed the game with ps4pro limitations in mind... how people can't comprehend this is what I'm questioning.
I wouldn't have used these particular words, but I agree.But why blame the hardware when you just agreed they could've made the game run at those higher frame rates?
Anyone can design a game that cannot run smoothly on any current console or almost any pc setup. Remember when Crysis came out and everyone complained about consoles holding back the pc potential? Everything is relative. They could've made it with less leaves or butt-humping or whatever that game was about, and people wouldn't have been the wiser.
Just seems like a silly argument to keep having over and over ad nausea... we get it, "hardware is not as fast as we all want", boo hoo... "console not powwow as pc", no shit dumbass... "I'm so depressed to be living in this echo chamber groundhog's day blame obama/trump for everything that crawled up my loose hemorrhoid infested butt hole hell", join the club my precious friend
But why blame the hardware when you just agreed they could've made the game run at those higher frame rates?
Except their job is to make games work across multiple platforms. They make a game that the console clearly can't handle at the resources they want, then complain about it. It's kind of stupid.As I said above, they could have made it run at 60fps by freeing up those CPU resources being taken, but it would have broken the game functionality itself.