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After removing the 290 from my system and being careful about running the driver uninstaller to do that. Then installing the 1080 and loading the driver for it.

My system now hangs about 15-20 seconds at the welcome screen when I am booting. This is Windows 10 Pro. Does it with the last NVidia driver and the latest one as well.

If I remove the NVidia driver and restart the system then it hits the desktop immediately and does not wait at the Welcome screen with my photo and the swirling dots.

Any ideas here? Is this typical?
 
Sounds like there is something left that it tries to load.

When you install the Nvidia driver, have you tried the "perform clean installation"?

Also try check the eventlogs for errors.
 
Sounds like the nvidia driver (or related user-space helper code) is "calling home" (i.e., connecting to the internet) to do something. If you have wireshark and another computer, i would watch network traffic.

Of course, the startup delay could be for any number of reasons.
 
I did try the clean installation option when I upgraded to the latest driver but it didn't seem to solve the issue. I'll check event viewer and see if anything obvious comes up.

I wonder if the geforce experience option could be the cause. Isn't that something that may want to "phone home" constantly?
 
Just try the basic install first. PhysX, display driver and sound driver.
 
I will do that Shintai thanks. If that doesn't solve the problem I'll clear event viewer then immediately restart and see if anything comes up there. It's not a huge problem since I'm not the type of person who worries much about a 15 second delay on a one time a day operation. But it would be nice to solve it.
 
If you are switching GPU brands (Nvidia/AMD) it has always been recommended to do a clean windows install. A lot of people will chime in and say it isn't necessary with driver cleaning utilities. But I have personally experienced otherwise and see it all the time, in this forum. Windows is not neat enough, for a major swap like this.
 
I have a similar issue but after the login. Mine was with a change from 290 to 980ti, the pause is about 20 seconds. I figured windows needed a clean install and the reboots are far and few between so it hasn't been to big of a worry.
 
Do not want to do a reinstall of the OS and everything else. That would be a I can deal with it type of scenario. Huge pita to save 15-20 seconds on startup.
 
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It also could be UEFI bios related. I have known in the past changing those settings in the bios had an affect on boot issues.
 
Riptide_NVN said:
Do not want to do a reinstall of the OS and everything else. That would be a I can deal with it type of scenario. Huge pita to save 15-20 seconds on startup.
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I totally get it, I have been researching for a resolution and it is tied to the NVidia drivers some how.
 
I was running windows 8.1 and upgraded to windows 10, now my boot time is back to normal, it must have cleaned up some junk.
 
I am having similar issues going from 970 SLI to a single 1080. Sits at the BIOS screen for a much longer time and Windows takes longer as well. I am also getting super low resolution and then it "snapping" to correct native res after a few seconds, as if it's re-detecting the card every time I boot.

Will try doing a driver wipe and reinstall but this is some weird, weird behavior.

EDIT: Complete driver uninstall and reinstall seems to have helped a bit, but still slower Windows load times than before. May try a reformat, not sure yet.
 
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Riptide_NVN said:
Do not want to do a reinstall of the OS and everything else. That would be a I can deal with it type of scenario. Huge pita to save 15-20 seconds on startup.
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New Windows 10 1607 out now. That could also solve that part.
 
Still having issues after Win 10 1607 update.

Seems like now when I boot from a complete off state (not a reboot), sometimes the display will just not initialize. I can tell that Windows is loaded because my keyboard lighting kicks in, there is HDD activity, etc, just no display. Tried unplugging the monitor, replugging, nothing. I reboot the system and then it works fine, except the boot times are still very slow, on both the BIOS and Windows logo.

I tried upgrading my BIOS since mine was super out of date, but that doesn't seem to have done anything, either.

Could Secure Boot be an issue? I noticed it was on in the BIOS by default.

I might end up trying a full reformat but if it's hanging at the BIOS screen I wonder if it's related to the Windows install.

I will give the hotfix driver a try.
 
I have an asus board and I 2 upgraded the bios first time in llke 2 years just the other night?? Might of been last night haha.. Anyways, I've also noticed the bios post to windows boot seems to take awhile longer then before. For the first time I seen a video bios post screen which I don't ever remember in the past.. though just installed 2 PNY 1080s today.. before that I had 2 Zotac AMP 1080s and don't remember seening a vga bios post screen prior to the MB post screen.. or really don't remember seeing a MB post screen before either.. Usually I hit the power and I hear the beep and within 5 secs I see windows 10 boot and then the logon screen.

Id say its something strange with the VGA bios..

Also during the first power up with the new cards installed I didn't get a signal to the monitor. The card has 3 different Display ports so I tried another port and then the monitor woke up.. Then on the next boot I could not get a signal to the monitor no matter how many times I tried the 3 different ports on the card. Seen the HDD access light going on the pc so I knew it was at the windows log on. So I turned it off and attempted again and finally got it. Swapped the 2 cards around and have not had it happen yet to the other card but its only been powered up maybe twice.
 
Sounds similar to what I'm experiencing as well. I tried again this morning on a fresh boot and yet again, loaded into Windows with no video. The monitor does kick on for a brief moment when the machine turns on, so it is detecting a signal for a split second, but then goes back to "No Signal".

I might end up just doing a full format and reinstall to see if that helps. It's bizarre because the card works flawlessly when it actually does boot up, so I don't think it's an issue with the hardware itself. It may be a GPU BIOS oddity like you mentioned, hopefully something that can be fixed.
 
I had this issue with my GA-X99M-Gaming 5 motherboard, I am not sure if my issue was the same. What I found was that with only 1 monitor plugged into DP, if I turned off the monitor before turning on the PC and then waited a couple of seconds and turned the monitor back on I would receive video. For whatever reason if only 1 monitor was plugged in and in sleep mode, I would receive no video after powering on the PC. If I turned off the monitor and powered on the PC it would work. Also if I had two monitors plugged in (HDMI and DP) it would boot without issues and I would not need to power off the monitor.

I did not have this issue when I was running GTX 780 Ti's in SLI, so I am not sure if having two cards is also causing a difference in the outcome.
 
Only a single card here. I did go from SLI to a single but I wouldn't think that is the issue.

I tried swapping DP ports while the machine was on and the monitor still wouldn't pick anything up. I haven't tried with the monitor off before I turn on the machine, but honestly this is something that needs to be fixed if that is the solution. I had zero issues and zero boot lag with my 970s and as soon as I popped in the 1080 I am having these problems, no other hardware changes made.
 
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Only a single card here. I did go from SLI to a single but I wouldn't think that is the issue.

I tried swapping DP ports while the machine was on and the monitor still wouldn't pick anything up. I haven't tried with the monitor off before I turn on the machine, but honestly this is something that needs to be fixed if that is the solution. I had zero issues and zero boot lag with my 970s and as soon as I popped in the 1080 I am having these problems, no other hardware changes made.
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Swapping DP ports didn't matter for me either, it only worked when I turned the monitor off. But since I have two monitors when both are plugged in I have no issues at all. It is a very weird issue, and an annoying one.
 
Turning the monitor off seemed to work for me as well, though when it came up my icons were all shoved to the side as though the resolution got low again and then corrected itself. Something is going on where the card is not being detected properly at boot I guess.

I think I am going to bite the bullet and reformat, and maybe disable Secure Boot / enable Hybrid boot if possible.
 
Yeah, that did not work for me.

I just reformatted and I *think* that fixed the problem. I also turned off Secure Boot but I tried that before formatting and there was no change. Leaving it off anyway though.

EDIT: I may have spoken too soon. The first boot was good and the first reboot after the driver auto-installed was good, but after that it seems to be exhibiting the same behavior. It must be something in the driver / GPU BIOS conflicting that is causing this issue. I don't think the card is bad, but something is fucked up.
 
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One of the infamous UEFI issues perhaps. But it does sound a little annoying.
 
Have the same issues with a GTX960 on a MSI X79 board. Tied clean install, BIOS changes and all sorts of tweaks but never found a solution. Icons and windows get messed up after return from sleep and had various display not detected issues. Some voodoo port and monitor swaps would make things work but any change in display setup and it would start acting up again.

Pretty shitty experience I wasn't expecting with Nvidia.
 
The changes in res could be due to a default resolution setting.
Try changing to 1080p res with no driver installed, it may help.
 
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Reset your cmos.
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I did a full BIOS update beforehand which appeared to have wiped out my BIOS settings so, I think that already happened?

Still getting the behavior where when I boot from a full shutdown it will not display anything. The "workaround" above where you leave the monitor off when turning on the machine and wait for it to boot into Windows seems to work, but obviously that is not a solution.

I haven't noticed it dropping to a lower resolution and fucking up my desktop icons like it was doing before, so I guess that's minor progress? In any case, a full wipe did not fix so it's something between the BIOS, the GPU BIOS, and maybe the driver?

The more frustrating thing is that I haven't seen anyone posting about this issue elsewhere, or at least that I've been able to search out.
 
I don't have any of those problems.. maybe it's just something wrong with the card and you should contact the manufacter and or exchange the card.. hopefully local purchase.
 
Your motherboard BIOS support both UEFI and legacy mode? And try the other than it is if it does. Else I think contact Gigabyte and ask them. perhaps they have a solution in a BIOS update if it doesn't require RMA.
 
I think it is already in Hybrid mode but I will see if there's a way to force Legacy.

Otherwise yeah, it might be worth an email to support.

eclypse, good to hear though we don't have the same motherboard and you are running SLI, so that might make a difference.
 
As an update, I did contact Gigabyte support a couple days ago but I haven't received a response yet.

The only way I can get display to work on a clean boot is to wait until the machine is FULLY booted, and then turn on the monitor. If I turn it on shortly after turning on the machine it still gives me no signal.

I am curious, are there any commonalities between those who are experiencing the issue? I'm using a GSync monitor on DP, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, and a Z97 board. Along with the Gigabyte 1080 card of course. Driver version is 368.95 hotfix. I noticed that when I first reformatted, Windows Update pulled the 369.05 which is technically just for the Titan at this point. Problem still occurred on that driver as well.
 
MavericK said:
I am curious, are there any commonalities between those who are experiencing the issue? I'm using a GSync monitor on DP, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit, and a Z97 board. Along with the Gigabyte 1080 card of course. Driver version is 368.95 hotfix. I noticed that when I first reformatted, Windows Update pulled the 369.05 which is technically just for the Titan at this point. Problem still occurred on that driver as well.
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Older LG 1080p monitor (tried HDMI and DVI), Win7 x64, MSI X79, GTX960 and whatever driver was current several months ago.
 
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I actually tried using sleep mode instead of shutting down because it seemed to come out of that alright - not so, but it seems to depend on how long the machine sits being off. If I pull it out of sleep in a short period of time, it works fine. If I leave it asleep for like an hour or more, it will do the blank monitor thing. Very odd.
 
I had a similar problem with Win10 not initializing a DP monitor on boot up on an Asus 980 Strix. Only way to get it to work was to unplug the DP and plug it back in. 2nd monitor on DVI worked fine though.

I hadn't changed the video card at all, this happened from the time I upgraded from 8.1 until just a few months ago. I chalked it up to crappy nVidia Win10 drivers.
 
I've tried doing that, I don't think it has worked for me...usually I have to reboot to get it to pick back up again. Also, unfortunately, I have to use DP for GSync so...yeah.

I may try swapping my 970 back in to see if it does anything different.
 
For mine if I turn the monitor right on after I power on the system its fine. I did not need to wait for Windows to boot. Also ever since I plugged in the second monitor I have not had any issues. Either way in both situations it seems like a UEFI issue to me. I have an LG 34UM95 monitor.
 
AMD was faster on boot up plus both monitors would display the bios screen. With the 1070 only the DVI monitor comes up until windows log in screen. On cold boot up with the 1070 I hangs about 1/3 of the time, warm reboot cures it and no further issues. I will see if any old AMD stuff is still present that is conflicting with the 1070. Overall a kick ass card and well worth the money.
 
Yeah, I also noticed my other LG monitor on HDMI will show the BIOS screen from a cold start. But If I just reboot the main LG on DP will show the BIOS.
 
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