Playing video games as a woman.

Azureth

Azureth

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I think this video is a great example of the difficulties women face in day-to-day lives

 
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Azureth, face it. None of us are as into the social justice scene as you.
 
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Seriously....I mean...I....I got nuthin.

Also, when did we add another letter to LGBT? LGBTQ+? Why isn't there a memo for these thing so we know who the latest victims of society are?
 
I think of myself as progressive, but every time I hear the word Cisgender, I die a little inside.

And WTF, how the hell can the use of the word rape can cause PTSD flashbacks!?!??!?!?!??!?!
 
So where is the female? I just see a guy talking about how bad women have it. At least he could have done an interview with a female and they agreed on some topics or something.
 
Certainly wasn't discounting anything until "watch anime all night for hours and hours on end". May as well have dropped a brony or furry flag out.

Since being a complacent part of the "CIS white male" power structure in the 'nerd culture' is tantamount to the theoretical bullies in high school, let's not forget there is a hierarchy of nerds.

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NeoNemesis said:
I think of myself as progressive, but every time I hear the word Cisgender, I die a little inside.

And WTF, how the hell can the use of the word rape can cause PTSD flashbacks!?!??!?!?!??!?!
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Well you see, that's a little thing we like to call first world problems and is a good example of how good life actually is in this country. No famine, poverty, disease or other hardships. Nope, just some dude wearing makeup complaining about a lack of positive female role models in the latest Battlefield game. Oh the humanity.
 
I guess i'm an Asshole then.

I dunno, i've never liked the terms Feminist or MRA or whatever. Hey great, you're an advocate. Congrats. Here's your prize for the day.

Nobody gives a shit what's going on between your legs. Get over your self, ya know?
(And the people who do, well, guess what, like a television show you don't like, or a political opinion you disagree with - we have this thing in our society called free will. And we all have the chance and choice to simply avoid it.)

Hey, we all got problems. Some folks' problems may be a bit more severe than others. But the whole point is learning to live with the reality that nobody gives a shit. And those who do either do so to hurt us, or to love us. It's up to each individual to figure out which is which for who. Ya know?
 
NeoNemesis said:
I think of myself as progressive, but every time I hear the word Cisgender, I die a little inside.

And WTF, how the hell can the use of the word rape can cause PTSD flashbacks!?!??!?!?!??!?!
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It's just a term used to describe the "opposite" of transgender.

I don't think you're as progressive as you think you are. :p
 
MavericK said:
It's just a term used to describe the "opposite" of transgender.

I don't think you're as progressive as you think you are. :p
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I know what it means, but I seriously question the need for the term.

Was their confusion that necessitated the creation of this term?
 
NeoNemesis said:
I know what it means, but I seriously question the need for the term.

Was their confusion that necessitated the creation of this term?
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Well, think about it...without the term you just have "not transgender". How many antonyms are just "not <blank>"?

It's just the evolution of language. I don't see the point in getting upset over it. It probably wasn't an issue in the past because the term "transgender" was rarely used or recognized.
 
MavericK said:
Well, think about it...without the term you just have "not transgender". How many antonyms are just "not <blank>"?

It's just the evolution of language. I don't see the point in getting upset over it. It probably wasn't an issue in the past because the term "transgender" was rarely used or recognized.
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There is Oreo, then Double Stuff. That doesn't make Oreos "Non-double Stuff", although technically they are. They are just Oreo's.

The way many use the word cisgender is a bit messed up. Within the trans community, many people consider themselves women, not transwomen. They are men, not transmen. It's one of those double standards, and yes - there are many transfolk that realize that and are against the SJW 'cisgender' for everyone not like them. It's another way to show a divide. There is no equality when you're purposely trying to divide people and label everyone... Yes, cisgender is the opposite of transgender. You're not going to be diagnosed as cisgender.

Also - I think her outlook on "nerd culture" is a bit off. There has never been any implied acceptance of anyone. It used to be where the awesome yet not so popular kids fell into. It wasn't cool. But, it was fun!

I really don't see a huge backlash towards women with gaming or "nerd culture".
 
Ruoh said:
For people that don't like being labeled, they sure have a lot of labels. :/
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I think it's less an issue with labels in general as it is with the correct labels. But...I could be wrong, dunno.

Ur_Mom said:
The way many use the word cisgender is a bit messed up. Within the trans community, many people consider themselves women, not transwomen. They are men, not transmen. It's one of those double standards, and yes - there are many transfolk that realize that and are against the SJW 'cisgender' for everyone not like them. It's another way to show a divide. There is no equality when you're purposely trying to divide people and label everyone... Yes, cisgender is the opposite of transgender. You're not going to be diagnosed as cisgender.
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I see it as more of a comparison with "gay" vs "straight". I don't hear a lot of people complain about the term "straight", but it exists so it's not just "not gay".

"Cisgender" exists so you don't just say "not transgender", and also I think it exists to avoid using the term "normal".
 
MavericK said:
I think it's less an issue with labels in general as it is with the correct labels. But...I could be wrong, dunno.
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It doesn't help when there's a new "gender" every month though, to appease someone's fragile sensibilities.
 
MavericK said:
I see it as more of a comparison with "gay" vs "straight". I don't hear a lot of people complain about the term "straight", but it exists so it's not just "not gay".

"Cisgender" exists so you don't just say "not transgender", and also I think it exists to avoid using the term "normal".
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Bolded the part I really agree with. I fully support transgender people, but I still had to watch myself from using the term "normal" in my post.

I do see the gay vs. straight part, too. That makes a lot of sense. But (joking a bit) - straight doesn't really mean not-gay. It means you are on the straight and narrow sexual path. Not-gay means that $20 is $20.... That's enough for a pizza.... :)
 
Ur_Mom said:
I still had to watch myself from using the term "normal" in my post
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I don't get this aversion to using the word "normal"
By definition "the usual, average, or typical state or condition." anything that is more than 50% of the case is "normal." It would be fair to say that a man being between 5'6-6'2 is "normal," but 4'9 or 7'1 is not. Why are people averse to saying "cis-sexual" is normal but "trans-sexual" is not normal? It's not an insult, it's a correct use of the term.
 
Good! Now beat this level for me & then get in the kitchen and make me a sandwich!
 
MavericK said:
I think it's less an issue with labels in general as it is with the correct labels. But...I could be wrong, dunno.



I see it as more of a comparison with "gay" vs "straight". I don't hear a lot of people complain about the term "straight", but it exists so it's not just "not gay".

"Cisgender" exists so you don't just say "not transgender", and also I think it exists to avoid using the term "normal".
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How about "people" or "humans"? Do we have to fucking label everything? Trying to label every single minute difference in people does nothing but create even more more division between people and further supports segregation. The goal should be for everyone to see each other equally, with no need for labels or classification.
 
Krenum said:
Equality? Bwhahahahaha! That will never happen, nor would you want it to.
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Yes, I do. I support true equality among people. Meaning everyone is looked at the same and everyone has to prove themselves on their own merits. There is no division of race, gender, sexuality, whatever. We see each other simply as people. Not as men, women, gay, straight, black, white, brown, Christian, Muslim, whatever. Just other human beings.
 
Derangel said:
Yes, I do. I support true equality among people. Meaning everyone is looked at the same and everyone has to prove themselves on their own merits. There is no division of race, gender, sexuality, whatever. We see each other simply as people. Not as men, women, gay, straight, black, white, brown, Christian, Muslim, whatever. Just other human beings.
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Cool, then you know that raise you worked so hard to get, or that retirement you worked all these years to accomplish. We're gonna give it to chin dusted joe blow that's fresh outta college, because, after all, he's your equal.

:) Have a nice day.
 
Krenum said:
Cool, then you know that raise you work so hard to get, or that retirement you worked all these years to accomplish. We're gonna give it to chin dusted joe blow that's fresh outta college, because, after all, he's your equal.

:) Have a nice day.
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I said see each other as people without the need for labels. Where the fuck does Marixism fit into that?
 
Derangel said:
Yes, I do. I support true equality among people. Meaning everyone is looked at the same and everyone has to prove themselves on their own merits. There is no division of race, gender, sexuality, whatever. We see each other simply as people. Not as men, women, gay, straight, black, white, brown, Christian, Muslim, whatever. Just other human beings.
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That's how you see what kind of person they are. But, their identity means a lot, too. There may not be a societal division on how people are treated, but that unique label (men, women, gay, straight) still means a lot to them. It doesn't mean they want treated differently, though.
 
Derangel said:
I said see each other as people without the need for labels. Where the fuck does Marixism fit into that?
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Ah but you can't have equality unless its across the entire spectrum. Therein lies the problem with your equality nonsense.
 
Ur_Mom said:
That's how you see what kind of person they are. But, their identity means a lot, too. There may not be a societal division on how people are treated, but that unique label (men, women, gay, straight) still means a lot to them. It doesn't mean they want treated differently, though.
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The problem with the labels and classifications is the stereotypes with them. And with this insane over classification our society seems intent on engaging in it is only going to lead to resentment among people when we have to remember dozens of different specific classifications for every person.

Krenum said:
Ah but you can't have equality unless its across the entire spectrum. Therein lies the problem with your equality nonsense.
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I'm not talking about economic quality though. My economic beliefs fall more in line with capitalism than anything else. There will always be people with more power than others. That's simply the nature of society.
 
Krenum said:
Well then there you have it. You just proved my point :hungry:
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My wish for equality extends to how we look at each other and how we label each other. The anti-SJW bullshit basically. Where those morons want to create "Safe places" and support segregation I want further mixing of people and races and further breaking down of the barriers between race, gender, etc. I understand it's not likely to happen, but hey at least my wishes are a drive for the improvement of humanity and not trying to bring back the fucking Jim Crow laws.
 
Holy button mashing!!!!!

She should really slow down and pay attention to what she is doing rather than what people are saying about her.

Derangel said:
Yes, I do. I support true equality among people. Meaning everyone is looked at the same and everyone has to prove themselves on their own merits. There is no division of race, gender, sexuality, whatever. We see each other simply as people. Not as men, women, gay, straight, black, white, brown, Christian, Muslim, whatever. Just other human beings.
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That is a beautiful thought but our brains are not hardwired like that.
 
Cr4ckm0nk3y said:
That is a beautiful thought but our brains are not hardwired like that.
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No, but it's a nice dream to have. Maybe if the human race lasts a few billion more years our brains will evolve into something that is more capable of that kind of thing. Or we'll just come up with new ways to hate each other.
 
Derangel said:
My wish for equality extends to how we look at each other and how we label each other. The anti-SJW bullshit basically. Where those morons want to create "Safe places" and support segregation I want further mixing of people and races and further breaking down of the barriers between race, gender, etc. I understand it's not likely to happen, but hey at least my wishes are a drive for the improvement of humanity and not trying to bring back the fucking Jim Crow laws.
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Its a nice dream. But it will never happen. Only in Star Trek. Simple way to end it, just do as Morgan Freeman says,

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This isn't the only "ism" it applies to.
 
Cr4ckm0nk3y said:
That is a beautiful thought but our brains are not hardwired like that.
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No we're not. We'll likely never reach that level of equality where in our minds we no longer see race or religion. However, we can train ourselves to treat others as equally human as ourselves, can we not?

Krenum said:
Its a nice dream. But it will never happen. Only in Star Trek. Simple way to end it, just do as Morgan Freeman says,

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This isn't the only "ism" it applies to.
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This is what i've been thinking forever... but the media will not let isms die. They feed off it.
 
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