I'm looking for the best monitor for anime and movies. Over 1000 dollars.

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Hey guys, I'm looking for the best monitor for anime and movies.

So far my choice is LG 27MB85R. Please tell me about this monitor if you've used it and also if there are better ones. Thank you in avance!!!
 
Have you tested it?
Anyways I'm looking for a monitor, not a TV.
 
Just curious why you want a monitor if your primary concern is what you listed in your OP? That Samsung 4:4:4 @4k TV is going to be superb compared to any monitor you can get in the same price range.
 
It fits my use: lots of downloads and watching them right afterwards + mild gaming
 
Have you tested it?
Anyways I'm looking for a monitor, not a TV.

Then you'll take a serious hit in contrast by going with IPS or lose image stability by viewing an MVA matrix from within a metre. I've done this.

Now that 15EL1500 is discontinued, you'll have to go with a telly or DSD to justify spending over a grand to watch video.
 
thanks for the new info :)
But about the monitor, is the lg I mentioned the right choice?
 
Have you tested it?
Anyways I'm looking for a monitor, not a TV.

As long as you have a GTX 900 series card (with HDMI2) the 2015 Samsung TVs are the best computer monitor money can buy today bar none.

I have a 55 inch JS9000 connected to my computer. No way would I ever go back to anything that currently sells labelled as "computer monitor"

Look into a 48JU6700, 48JU7500 or 48JS9000 depending how much you can spend ($1000, $1500, $2000 non sale price for above with quality going up accordingly)
 
is the cheapest one (1000 dollars) that much better than the 27" lg (700 dollars)?
Also, isn't it more difficult to use the computer (I want it to be multifunctional: movies, games, surfing...)
 
The Samsung monitor listed is 3840x2160 resolution. It will be much more productive than a 27" @ 1440p even at 40". If you are not gaming, there is no reason NOT to go with that LCD if its in your budget.
 
is the cheapest one (1000 dollars) that much better than the 27" lg (700 dollars)?
Also, isn't it more difficult to use the computer (I want it to be multifunctional: movies, games, surfing...)

That LG is literally garbage compared to the 6700 for $1000.Buy the 40 inch if you want but if you have a 9 series, get a Samsung 4k tv
 
So far my choice is LG 27MB85R

IPS/PLS with glossy coatings and Plasma Deposition Coating make anime look as good as possible since they offer the clearest most vibrant image without being over-saturated. Unfortunately none of the 'name brand' companies make glossy 27" 1440p or 4k monitors, but a few quality options can be purchased from Korea sellers through the Amazon Marketplace, eBay and New Egg US. You can buy the iiyama XB2779QS (more information and review links) with Plasma Deposition Coating if you live in Europe.

Buy a 27MB85R and a Crossover 27QW Sakwa with Plasma Deposition Coating from eBay and enjoy the best of both worlds.

The Samsung TVs being recommended use 120hz LED PWM Dimming which ruins motion clarity (example) and makes some people suffer from health issues like headaches and eyestrain (more information). Many health issues were reported in the Samsung thread. Currently only Sony makes PWM free TVs, but their 4k displays don't support 4k @60hz properly.

That LG is literally garbage compared to the 6700 for $1000.Buy the 40 inch if you want but if you have a 9 series, get a Samsung 4k tv

LG is garbage compared to a VA panel with gamma shift, <90% sRGB colour space coverage and 120hz PWM? Someone is very confused. Budget VA monitors offer higher colour space coverage and are PWM free.

The Samsung monitor listed is 3840x2160 resolution. It will be much more productive than a 27" @ 1440p even at 40". If you are not gaming, there is no reason NOT to go with that LCD if its in your budget.

It's easier to be productive with two 27" 1440p monitors which can be purchased for 1000$.
 
The Samsung TVs being recommended use 120hz LED PWM Dimming which ruins motion clarity (example) and makes some people suffer from health issues like headaches and eyestrain (more information). Many health issues were reported in the Samsung thread. Currently only Sony makes PWM free TVs, but their 4k displays don't support 4k @60hz properly.

I suggest you take the above with a huge grain of salt. If its called 120Hz PWM its supposedly bad for motion clarity. When the exact same thing comes labeled as lightboost with extra $ on the sticker price its now the absolute best thing for motion clarity:

http://www.blurbusters.com/zero-motion-blur/video/

Strobe backlights eliminate motion blur on LCD displays. Several 120 Hz monitors now have a refresh-synchronized strobe backlight feature that can be enabled, to allow CRT crystal clear motion on LCD. This high-speed video (1000 fps) demonstrate a LightBoost strobe backlight successfully bypassing LCD pixel transitions:

Some people are sensitive to 120Hz flicker so its best to go stare for 5m into one of these displays at BestBuy/Frys just to be sure (Samsung PWM has been measured at maximum back-light its on 99% of the time off 1% of the time).
 
I suggest you take the above with a huge grain of salt. If its called 120Hz PWM its supposedly bad for motion clarity. When the exact same thing comes labeled as lightboost with extra $ on the sticker price its now the absolute best thing for motion clarity:.

Or try actually reading what you've posted.

Strobe backlights eliminate motion blur on LCD displays. Several 120 Hz monitors now have a refresh-synchronized strobe backlight feature

The LG's colors are far superior to the Samsung TV, does not use PWM, has significantly lower input-lag, and greater color consistency because it doesn't not suffer from head-on gamma-shift when viewed from a distance smaller than two feet. All Samsung TVs also use BGR sub-pixel matrix, which may be a problem if you plan on using more than one monitor because Window 7/8.1 does not allow you to set different cleartype settings for multiple monitors - Windows 10 does.

Any of the monitors in NCX's post are more than sufficient; ignore the Samsung brigade.
 
Yeah, you are right taht 2 displays is more productive but he is not after productivity as much as he is into video/multimedia. If he was wanting a LCD work workload, then yes by all means go with 2 screens. I think for watching things though, he would be much happier with a larger 4k TV.
 
TVs are too big for monitors if < 3 feet. It will hurt your neck straining up all the time. For a monitor I wouldn't go about 42". You are probably better off getting a 32" 4K IPS monitor for $1k, like maybe the Benq BL3201PH. Also the Acer B326HK isn't bad and is $750 right now. More accurate colors, viewing angles, and color uniformity than a big TV will have like the Samsung.
 
I know you're looking for ONE monitor to do it all. But my advice would be to get more than 1 display to get the job done. I do all my browsing and gaming on my 27 inch 144Hz monitor but for watching movies and anime I use a Plasma TV. Great uniformity like IPS but with much much better contrast like VA, you get the best of both worlds. How about spending that $1,000 on both a good plasma tv (if they still make any) as well as an IPS monitor.
 
IPS/PLS with glossy coatings and Plasma Deposition Coating make anime look as good as possible since they offer the clearest most vibrant image without being over-saturated. Unfortunately none of the 'name brand' companies make glossy 27" 1440p or 4k monitors, but a few quality options can be purchased from Korea sellers through the Amazon Marketplace, eBay and New Egg US. You can buy the iiyama XB2779QS (more information and review links) with Plasma Deposition Coating if you live in Europe.

Buy a 27MB85R and a Crossover 27QW Sakwa with Plasma Deposition Coating from eBay and enjoy the best of both worlds.

The Samsung TVs being recommended use 120hz LED PWM Dimming which ruins motion clarity (example) and makes some people suffer from health issues like headaches and eyestrain (more information). Many health issues were reported in the Samsung thread. Currently only Sony makes PWM free TVs, but their 4k displays don't support 4k @60hz properly.



LG is garbage compared to a VA panel with gamma shift, <90% sRGB colour space coverage and 120hz PWM? Someone is very confused. Budget VA monitors offer higher colour space coverage and are PWM free.



It's easier to be productive with two 27" 1440p monitors which can be purchased for 1000$.

NCX, among the ones you mentioned (LG, crossover, liyama...) which one is the best for my uses?
And thanks for the explanation!!!
Thanks to Nikyo as well!
Everyone can answer this question btw, not just NCX.
 
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recommending an IPS screen for watching movie and animes is moronic.
backlight bleed
IPS glow
sub par contrast
 
Threads like this in the Display subforum always devolve into a battle of opinion and paper-spec slinging drivel. No matter how many threads you read, you'll see the same thing.

Your best bet is to buy 2-3 monitors that you think you might like from ideas here and return the losers. Use a combination of Amazon, Crutchfield, and B&M stores. The 40" Samsung flat (UN40JU6500) is on a good sale right now, and you could end up not giving a crap about the poor gray uniformity, possible clouding or PWM. You could get the BL3201PH and love the colors and not care about the lower right corner bleed which every unit has. You could get a 21:9 monitor and think it's the best thing to ever exist like some have regardless of anime only being 16:9 and some games (MOBAs, RTS) not supporting 21:9 at all.

Everything has a trade off. The only additional opinion I'll throw at you is that 27" is too small for an all-in-one display.
 
Hey guys, I'm looking for the best monitor for anime and movies.

So far my choice is LG 27MB85R. Please tell me about this monitor if you've used it and also if there are better ones. Thank you in avance!!!

If WATCHING movies and anime in super-smooth (intended) quality is important - get something with AW polarizer (picture quality) or 100-120Hz display with black frame insertion technology to avoid ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE judder 90% of panles out here guilty in (compare to playback on any CRT or good TV).

Watching animation on your basic "computer display" is pain.
 
Threads like this in the Display subforum always devolve into a battle of opinion and paper-spec slinging drivel. No matter how many threads you read, you'll see the same thing.

Your best bet is to buy 2-3 monitors that you think you might like from ideas here and return the losers. Use a combination of Amazon, Crutchfield, and B&M stores. The 40" Samsung flat (UN40JU6500) is on a good sale right now, and you could end up not giving a crap about the poor gray uniformity, possible clouding or PWM. You could get the BL3201PH and love the colors and not care about the lower right corner bleed which every unit has. You could get a 21:9 monitor and think it's the best thing to ever exist like some have regardless of anime only being 16:9 and some games (MOBAs, RTS) not supporting 21:9 at all.

Everything has a trade off. The only additional opinion I'll throw at you is that 27" is too small for an all-in-one display.

Pretty much the best advice here.

No one person can tell you which monitor or TV is going to be the best for you. I do agree that for your intended purposes that 27" is going to be on the small side and you'll probably be disappointed if spending 1 grand on a 27" monitor to watch anime.

The Samsung 4k is a good TV especially for the price and will serve your needs well. PWM is way overblown and so far the monitor to induce headaches and eye strain worth mentioning was the Dell s2047 I had that was confirmed to be PWM free.

So take everyone's advice with a grain of salt and go check out some tvs you like and return them if you don't.
 
Be careful of which Samsung you get. Some are buggy with smart features and some ISP's. I recently got a Samsung 4k and had to return it for an LG. Wish I remembered the sku. Get the wand. Its awesome
 
Right now I have a 17" Toshiba and a 20" Dell. I had a 17" Dell before and another Dell of 17" before that. Those are all the computers I've owned, all of them laptops except for the 20 IPS Dell (very cheap monitor, over 300 dollars). The 20" one seems to have a good size to me (maybe somewhat little, but not too much) so I think 33-40" is simply out of the question since I want to be close to the computer. I think I'd be VERY happy with a 27" one if it meets my expectations. NCX, since you seem to have made LOTS of monitor reviews, when you can could you answer the question I asked you before?
Nikyo, could you comment on what Mr Mike, Kreon, climber and lollipop just pointed out?
 
And another thing, lots of time will be for multimedia (40%), but I also surf (20%), play some games(20%) or just idle, so I think 27 " is a good choice since I like to be 1-2 feet away from the screen. Sorry, I think I should have said this before, my bad.
 
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NCX, among the ones you mentioned (LG, crossover, liyama...) which one is the best for my uses?
And thanks for the explanation!!!
Thanks to Nikyo as well!
Everyone can answer this question btw, not just NCX.

The LG is the most well-rounded but is matte; the Crossover and Iiyama both use PDC (Plasma Deposition Coating) and have the most vibrant colors, but PDC absolutely ruins black depth. The LG and Iiyama both have high minimum brightness where the Crossover does not; the Iiyama's minimum brightness is significantly higher than the LG's and is not suitable for dark rooms (LG: 120 cd/m2 vs Iiyama: 170 cd/m2). The LG and Crossover are both delay-free - the Iiyama is not. The LG is the only delay-free multi-input monitor with good color presets, the ability to be hardware calibrated, and an included colorimeter. The LG and the Crossover are the two best out of the monitors NCX has linked. However, the LG is commercially available, where as the Crossover has to be imported from a Korean Ebay seller.

The Asus MG279Q would be another recommendation to take a look it. It's a free-sync monitor that uses a 144hz IPS panel. Its color presets are good (in the racing preset), not quite as good as the LG's, but overall good enough, and it would be the best choice for gaming (if one wants 144hz) outside of the Acer XB270HU.

Other things I'd recommend would be the BenQ BL3201PH, a 4k monitor. The BenQ has the best color presets out of any monitor I've ever used. The downfall, however, is that it is 4k: you may need to use scaling in windows to make things a readable sized text, and your single 970 could likely struggle depending on what games you play and what settings you expect to play them at. It's also likely pricey vs buying two 1440p monitors for more desktop real estate.

You'd have to narrow down what exactly you'd want, all mentioned are viable options. There's no 'best' monitor. Options like the Samsung are trash to anyone with even a sliver of standards when purchasing a display; 21:9 options are not supported by various media, tend to suffer from heavy backlight bleed and use grainier matte coatings

recommending an IPS screen for watching movie and animes is moronic.
backlight bleed
IPS glow
sub par contrast

1. You're generalizing.
2. Not as bad compared to VA cone on larger VA tvs
3. Turn on a light; turn down the brightness. (It'll help, at least.)

I don't really see how you've rationalized IPS being bad for anime (mostly colored gradients); movies for the black depth, I can see.

If WATCHING movies and anime in super-smooth (intended) quality is important - get something with AW polarizer (picture quality) or 100-120Hz display with black frame insertion technology to avoid ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE judder 90% of panles out here guilty in (compare to playback on any CRT or good TV).

Watching animation on your basic "computer display" is pain.

Any foreigner watching anime is likely using madVR or MPV, both of which have a form of smooth play back. You don't need 120hz and a strobing backlight to watch film, and it's certainly not the intended way to watch it either.

Current AT-W polarizers are limited to very expensive wide-gamut displays, none of which would suit this use case at all. Not to mention, GB-R backlight tint is (in my opinion) as annoying as IPS glow.
 
Awesome answer!
One question though, I thought the lg was semi glossy, and is it worse than glossy's crossover?
 
Awesome answer!
One question though, I thought the lg was semi glossy, and is it worse than glossy's crossover?

Semi-glossy hitherto was a go-to term that we used for grain-free matte coatings and it's kind of something we're transitioning out of using (causes confusion). The LG is not true semi-glossy (1-3% haze), it's matte, just not a grainy matte. The Crossover is 100% glossy as it uses glass with an anti-reflective coating (PDC) on it. As I've said, the Crossover will produce the most vibrant colors, but at the cost of your black depth (blacks will appear grey).
 
Which one would you recommend out of those 2?

Both have their trade-offs, it's really up to you what you value.

Out of the two, I'd pick the Crossover.

The LG was a fantastic monitor when I had it, but I've become less inclined to recommend matte monitors as I once did. I personally value color vibrancy and text sharpness above all else; black depth is not the highest on my priority list (of course, I *occasionally* watch anime and generally nothing else). I do, however, work with Japanese text all day, and having clearer, crisper text that the Crossover offers is all the more worth it to me. Being European, you may also run into the buzzing noise that has apparently plagued many other European owners of the LG, which BearOso theorized may be due to the different electrical standards between Europe and North America, because I believe that the LG currently being offered in Europe is an imported North American one. The Crossover is also significantly cheaper than the LG, and one could purchase a Square-Trade warranty if they're worried or uneasy about purchasing a monitor from a Korean ebay seller.

Again, this is really up to your personal preference.

LG 27MB85R
+Good colors
+Delay-free
+Multi-input
+Good pixel response (Medium overdrive preset)
+Excellent calibrated contrast
+Can be hardware calibrated and comes with a colorimeter
-Matte
-Overshoot on dark grey transitions


Crossover 27Sakwa
+The most vibrant colors
+The cleanest, most crisp text outside of higher PPI monitors
+Delay-free
+Free of overshoot ghosting
+Price
-Can only be purchased from a Korean seller (they're generally fine, however.)
-Blacks will look grey
-Tend to suffer from more IPS glow

Either are good, weight your criteria.
 
Thank you for the super detailed answer!!!

For me they have the same price because of the large crossover tax.
Also, I kinda like matte (I hate watching myself in the monitor)

That said, could you choose one as the best choice?
 
My advice is always buy from a place you can return/exchange easily. You do not want to spend money and get stuck with dead pixels, horrible glow, uniformity, etc.
 
That said, could you choose one as the best choice?

The LG and the Asus MG279Q are the best multi-input, delay-free, grain-free matte monitors, with the LG having the slight edge in picture quality, but the Asus having a huge edge in gaming. I cannot choose a best, you have to pick whichever suits your needs/budget; I'd probably just pick the cheaper of the two, but I don't play games. Again, the Crossover produces the best image quality, but if you dislike Glossy, then matte is the only choice.

My advice is always buy from a place you can return/exchange easily. You do not want to spend money and get stuck with dead pixels, horrible glow, uniformity, etc.

This is also a very good idea, do this.
 
Ok thanks again :)
I'll order the Lg in the end, it seems a very good monitor :)
 
Any foreigner watching anime is likely using madVR or MPV, both of which have a form of smooth play back. You don't need 120hz and a strobing backlight to watch film, and it's certainly not the intended way to watch it either.

We've been over this in my thread, don't we?
Get a CRT, set it to 85-100Hz, compare playback of anime/cartoon material with slow panning scenes on both with whatever madVR/"SuperSomeCoolVR rendering module and player" settings/environment.
Day and night.
Heaven and earth.

I've been on CRT for many years and in last half of a year switched a lot of CLD displays.
 
We've been over this in my thread, don't we?
Get a CRT, set it to 85-100Hz, compare playback of anime/cartoon material with slow panning scenes on both with whatever madVR/"SuperSomeCoolVR rendering module and player" settings/environment.
Day and night.
Heaven and earth.

I've been on CRT for many years and in last half of a year switched a lot of CLD displays.

Well yes, because a CRT doesn't suffer from the sample-and-hold effect. This, however, does not really matter for anime. You're expected when viewing sakuga to focus on one object on the screen; eliminating the sample-and-hold effect will make no difference. I even tested this on my own TV with a strobing backlight. None of the sakuga clips I viewed showed even a minuscule amount of difference. The only that that really changed was panning scenes, which typically consisted of just background shots moving along the screen. Those showed significant change, but to go out and purchase a CRT or monitor with a strobing backlight for that specific purchase is silly. The idea behind madVR smooth playback is to eliminate judder from 23.976 (24p) on 60hz displays, and helps this to a degree.

Of course, not like madVR is my specialty, either. This would likely be a conversation better served for Doom9.
 
The eizo cs270 has just been released, it does have uniformity correction processing and hardware lut just like cx271 but lacks the polarizing filter.

What do you think about it? I'm currently considering buying this thing..either it or cs230..
 
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