The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt: Official Thread

LeviathanZERO said:
After looking deeper into this, I had no idea CD Projekt owns GOG.com.
So they have a stake in it, and those comments from GMG seems to imply a little unfairness at play.
Looks like both sides messed up, but who's really to blame here? Kinda messed up either way.
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Well everything between GMG and CDPR was fine for the last 4+ years with their past games. So now, GOG launches its own games' service and suddenly has a problem with GMG? It's fishy.

However CDPR is still working with a lot of other digital distributors. It's possible CDPR had issues with GMG's pricing.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Well everything between GMG and CDPR was fine for the last 4+ years with their past games. So now, GOG launches its own games' service and suddenly has a problem with GMG? It's fishy.

However CDPR is still working with a lot of other digital distributors. It's possible CDPR had issues with GMG's pricing.
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If GMG is willing to eat the loss themselves (which it sounds like they do sometimes with these big pre-order discounts) then I'm not sure what CDP's issue is beyond it potentially driving more people to GMG instead of their own service.
 
if they are unauthorized keys, all they should have to do is buy a key from GMG and once they are passed out to preload track where that key originated from with their internal distribution channel and blacklist every key on that list, and just deal with reissuing keys to people that have a proper reciept that is from an authorized seller.
 
Derangel said:
If GMG is willing to eat the loss themselves (which it sounds like they do sometimes with these big pre-order discounts) then I'm not sure what CDP's issue is beyond it potentially driving more people to GMG instead of their own service.
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It's probably, definitely, most likely what this is.
The game is on origin and uplay. Uplay.

No PC gamer in their right mind would buy from uplay, especially with other retailers around.
So CDP approves the teenie tiny Uplay market, but not the incredibly much larger in comparison market of GMG? Are they insane? All because they just don't want to be undersold. It's really messed up that they went on the offensive like that against GMG. Saying "zero revenue", to make it sound worse than it is. If GMG is buying from an approved retailer, then obviously CDP is getting revenue and this is nothing but a pissing match. Because its not "Direct revenue", it's "zero"? This is not cool on CDP, especially making it public like this.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
After looking deeper into this, I had no idea CD Projekt owns GOG.com.
So they have a stake in it, and those comments from GMG seems to imply a little unfairness at play.
Looks like both sides messed up, but who's really to blame here? Kinda messed up either way.
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There's nothing really unfair here. They "publish" their own game (DRM-free, I might add), so of course they'd prefer their own distribution channels. GMG obviously wasn't having any of this and decided they were going to sell the game anyway, at a loss if need be, so there's definitely some squabbling going on in the background. I'm wondering which company it is sold the keys to them in the first place, because that's probably not allowed in their contract.
 
dmonkey said:
There's nothing really unfair here. They "publish" their own game (DRM-free, I might add), so of course they'd prefer their own distribution channels. GMG obviously wasn't having any of this and decided they were going to sell the game anyway, at a loss if need be, so there's definitely some squabbling going on in the background. I'm wondering which company it is sold the keys to them in the first place, because that's probably not allowed in their contract.
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read post above yours
 
After reading gmg's response , and this is just my opinion/thoughts on what "might" be happening.

I'm thinking that CDP sold keys to Steam/Uplay/Origin because obviously not only does it have ties with publishers via gog) but also because none of them "undercut" or sell new games at a discount really.

GMG on the other hand? They are known by pc gamers as being one of if not the best places to buy new games because they almost always have a 20% or more discount available, which makes them cheaper then almost any other digital retailer.

I haven't bought a game directly from steam in years if I can get it via gmg.

So CDP might have refused to sell to them because tehy know this and would see it as direct competition because of their heavy discounts and figured if they didn't sell directly ot them that there would be no undercutting.

So gmg , after offering to not only send the money ahead of the keys and/or also meet them in-person in Poland (according to the gmg statement) decided they would just go around CDP and get the keys from someone else.

However they didn't name who (and likely won't, because this source of keys would likely get blacklisted by CDP for re-selling the keys that they bought from CDP) so it's still up int he air of where the keys came from.

I've never had issues with GMG before in the past and they are an authorized retailer, unlike G2a/G2play an dother sites that buy from other regions and then resell them (for a huge profit).

I just hope they can patch this up and work together in the future.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
read post above yours
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They're always going to sell to EA/Uplay/Steam because these are big players and pay them big bucks up front (yes, even Uplay). As much as you might like GMG they're not really that big of a deal, especially considering CDPR was willing to shut them out. Like I said, it's "their game", nothing really unfair about it.
 
dmonkey said:
They're always going to sell to EA/Uplay/Steam because these are big players and pay them big bucks up front (yes, even Uplay). As much as you might like GMG they're not really that big of a deal, especially considering CDPR was willing to shut them out. Like I said, it's "their game", nothing really unfair about it.
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They just don't want anyone underselling them on release. It's pretty obvious now. CDP should have handled this better, they look silly for making this public.
 
LeviathanZERO said:
They just don't want anyone underselling them on release. It's pretty obvious now. CDP should have handled this better, they look silly for making this public.
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That's business for you. It doesn't hurt my opinion of them since they're doing what they can to stay afloat as an independent development company not beholden to any mega-publisher. I respect their decision to choose who they may for sales of the keys. GMG is acting out even though they don't have the authority to sell the keys. Who's being foolish in front of the public eye? My perspective points entirely to GMG.
 
Well from the CDPR forums:
They also list Bandai Namco as the published which is not true for w3 (namco is our box distributor in PAL), so GMG is not a CDPR partner for W3 but they still might sell Keys that will work
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So it looks as if GMG is trying to under cut digital sales by selling at a much larger than normal discount in an attempt to force CDPR to have a huge PR nightmare should they decide to blacklist the keys GMG obtained. If these keys are box keys and not digital, it would be relatively easy for CDPR to flag these Keys as patchable games but not allow them to download the official full game download so it has to be installed from the disc if the boxed version has discs first.
 
is there any news on what additional content (or difference) will bring the savegame of TW2 in TW3?
 
jiminator said:
I suspect it will be starting weapons
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Nope, in the livestream they said no items carry over (understandable after what they did to the weapon/armor that carried over in TW2, which are meant to be legendary items and were replaced by better "regular from a smith" armor/weapons easily).

Just story related things carry over this time.
 
Wow, was wondering whether to go with the console or PC, but the PC version's graphics looks like it will blow away the PS4s with my rather nice gaming rig, and I guess if I want to see it on the big screen TV I can just wire over to it... lol

worm
 
bullet-worm said:
Wow, was wondering whether to go with the console or PC, but the PC version's graphics looks like it will blow away the PS4s with my rather nice gaming rig, and I guess if I want to see it on the big screen TV I can just wire over to it... lol

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If your PC is above a 750ti & i3 combo then it will out perform the PS4 version almost guaranteed. Eurogamer & DigitalFoundry did some tests a few months ago with this setup and it has bested the consoles in every game they tested.
 
why doesn't GMG just reveal where they got the Witcher 3 keys from...by not doing that it sounds shady...I find it hard to believe that GMG is selling all these keys at a loss as if they are some non-profit charity
 
polonyc2 said:
why doesn't GMG just reveal where they got the Witcher 3 keys from...by not doing that it sounds shady...I find it hard to believe that GMG is selling all these keys at a loss as if they are some non-profit charity
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This isn't the first time GMG has sold keys at a loss. They do it in hope that it will bring in customers that will buy things they are making a profit on. It's the same reason Microcenter will sell launch CPUs at a loss or take a big loss on bundles in store only, they want you to be tempted to buy more stuff.

As for not revealing their source why would they? They could risk their source being blacklisted by CDP or other publishers. If they were selling bad keys it would not only ruin their reputation with customers but would kill every deal they have with publishers. Remember, GMG is an official reseller for several companies.
 
LurkerLito said:
Well from the CDPR forums:

So it looks as if GMG is trying to under cut digital sales by selling at a much larger than normal discount in an attempt to force CDPR to have a huge PR nightmare should they decide to blacklist the keys GMG obtained. If these keys are box keys and not digital, it would be relatively easy for CDPR to flag these Keys as patchable games but not allow them to download the official full game download so it has to be installed from the disc if the boxed version has discs first.
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I knew it, looks like GMG is getting their keys from an outside region where the currency is weaker allowing them to undercut. I still think this is a scumbag move by GMG.
 
I've been wanting to post something related to this for awhile but never really had the opportunity but since this does tie into somewhat CDPR's business practices here goes -

Was anyone else at the very least annoyed by how CDPR retroactively granted all Steam purchases of The Witcher 2 GoG keys? When The Witcher 2 was released one of the selling points CDPR used to promote purchasing through GoG was being able to get a completely DRM free version and every other version would have some sort of attached DRM. Otherwise in hindsight I'd have purchased through Steam for the same price and had the game in the library of both services.

Because of this I really have no interest in purchasing The Witcher 3 through GoG and don't see the incentive to do so.
 
You mean the steam key works on GoG also. Not sure what the complaint is. Steam is just a sales platform, the owners specify how the sales happen. You can do the same with UBI keys and perhaps Origin (you have to register and use both services anyway).
 
NickJames said:
I knew it, looks like GMG is getting their keys from an outside region where the currency is weaker allowing them to undercut. I still think this is a scumbag move by GMG.
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As I recall they are based out of the UK. Makes sense that they use PAL info, I remember seeing PAL info on games before. Grey market keys would be a MASSIVE risk to their other publisher relationships.
 
Got my key off an [H] user for a great price today, looking forward to this. Been a while since I was genuinely psyched for a game.

For anyone interested in the first and second, there's a steam deal going on right now where they are $1.49 and $2.99, respectively. Great way to get into these games.
 
This will be great to see:

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Meh, those aren't very funny.
I'll make sure to spam their YouTube channel so I can throw it on Reddit for fat karma, though!
 
jiminator said:
You mean the steam key works on GoG also. Not sure what the complaint is. Steam is just a sales platform, the owners specify how the sales happen. You can do the same with UBI keys and perhaps Origin (you have to register and use both services anyway).
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That wasn't how the original situation was presented though. Originally all copies of The Witcher 2 had DRM tied in with the place of purchase other than GoG and DRM free was presented as a benefit of buying through GoG (which they make more money from). There was no indication you would be able to redeem keys onto GoG.

In hindsight why would you buy it from GoG for example otherwise? The price was the same on both services. But had you bought it from Steam you could be able to aquire it from both sources. Also coincidently you'd benefit from a larger Witcher 3 discount on Steam (from owning the Witcher 2) and on GoG (from owning the Witcher 2).

Just like currently why would I buy a Steamworks game from Steam as opposed to GMG if GMG were selling it cheaper (which they typically do) as I know it can activate on Steam.

Just like I don't see a point in buying The Witcher 3 through GoG.
 
I havdemailed them on this very specific subject back in Feb when TW3 was just released as a pre-order on both Steam and GoG. Both Steam and GoG were offering the exact same discount for all owners of 1 and 2 (5% extra off for each game), and you were able to redeem TW1 & 2 GoG copies by simply giving them the Steam CD-Keys to avail of the prices. So far they do not have any plans to allow Steam buyers to avail of a copy on GoG, though I do suspect they will eventually let them to do so.

The difference was basically the pre-order bonuses (GoG were offering more), though I understand most of you don't give rats ass about those.

The main issue had to do with how patches were released. Steam automatically downloads patches for you, which works both ways. I find it convenient to have games automatically updated, except for one game which I would have preferred an older version instead because the new patched version broke more things than it fixed.

GoG at the time didn't have that, you had to download each and every patch manually, sometimes it's a PITA.

I know I probably would get majorly bashed for this, but I preferred Steam because it had achievements. I don't show it off, but I use it as a measure of completion. When I bought wasteland 2, Steam hadn't got achievements for that game. Thinking that it may not have them, I bought it on GoG instead of Steam. GoG's update system and the fact that Steam introduced achievements for WL2 made me regret buying it from GoG, thus I made the conscious decision to buy Pillars of Eternity from Steam.

GoG is definitely my preferred distribution platform if patches are not released so often, and when there is no practical difference between the games. I am going to hold off on the TW3 pre-order for the time being and see if their Galaxy client is any good. TBH though, I really would do want to buy it from GoG directly, but I place convenience as utmost priority, it is just in me to sacrifice that for principle.
 
Did they have a CDPR dev in the room with them or I guess it was all scripted... The way they were teleporting to different parts of the game.

I'm over-thinking it.
 
I can't help but worry that this level of mainstream exposure implies a dumbed down game. Or at least more dumbed down than a typical console version :p
#PCmasterrace
 
i mean the clueless gamer stuff is pretty mainstream yeah, but they did shadows of mordor amongst others and that was a good pc game
 
Bought it via Origin.. 35 usd

EA has some pretty good prices in Origin for Latin Americans... I bought DA:I Premium Edition or whatever, for 45 usd
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
Did they have a CDPR dev in the room with them or I guess it was all scripted... The way they were teleporting to different parts of the game.

I'm over-thinking it.
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It's always scripted, man. I'm sure CDPR people were there, too.
 
Also the guy that helps conan actually plays the games before hand so he likely has multiple save points set up so they can quickly go to different parts of the game.
 
Nice - I'll have to watch later. What platform do they play on?

And yeah, they probably had someone play for several hours, and just play back the highlights while they narrate it.
 
madFive said:
Nice - I'll have to watch later. What platform do they play on?

And yeah, they probably had someone play for several hours, and just play back the highlights while they narrate it.
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It was on pc according to a dev on twitter, hence hte 360 (not xbox one) controller.
 
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