GTX 960 disrobed and clothed.

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The only certain thing is the memory configuration of 2GB GDDR5 and 128-bit interface. MSI’s GeForce GTX 960 is powered by a single 8-pin power connector. The PCB is equipped with 4+1 phase design. And just like we told you, GTX 960 has the same display configuration as GTX 970 and GTX 980: three DisplayPorts, HDMI and DVI.

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aww. so bad. I was expecting a 192bit 3GB GTX 960.. a probably 960TI in the way? (I HOPE SO)
 
4GB variants are in the pipeline according to multiple sources over the months. :)
 
They should make the 128-bit version the GTS 950. Then have 960 GTS with 1280sp, and the GTX 960 1536sp . The naming wouldn't be so confusing and GTX would be the premium model for the number designation. Dar...Nvidia. $150, $200, $250 easy.
 
SnowBeast said:
They should make the 128-bit version the GTS 950. Then have 960 GTS with 1280sp, and the GTX 960 1536sp . The naming wouldn't be so confusing and GTX would be the premium model for the number designation. Dar...Nvidia. $150, $200, $250 easy.
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Specs don´t tell the story, performance does.

Apparently the 960 will stand in line with the 770, sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Not bad IMO.
 
Stoly said:
Specs don´t tell the story, performance does.

Apparently the 960 will stand in line with the 770, sometimes faster, sometimes slower. Not bad IMO.
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The 128 bit is gonna hurt bad in some titles, I am guessing. I understand they've implemented some compression tricks, but half of 256 bit (GTX 760) is still half when the going gets tough!
 
It's a beefed up 750 Ti (same 128bit bus) with moar power.

I'll be interested to see how they compare, and what kind of clocks it can reach. I had a EVGA FTW 750 Ti with 6pin power and was able to maintain 1400/6600 stable. (1100/5700 stock)
 
Gonna have to see some performance reviews combined with what nvidia wants for these chips but... yeah not looking great.
 
Underwhelming at this point... Heh, will see what happens.
 
I am disappointed, I was planning on buying a GTX 960 but not when it is probably gimped this bad. Based on this info, if true, this should have been the GTX 950ti or something. I hope the GTX 965ti rumor is true, and if it's not I guess I will wait for the refresh.
 
ew, the specs of the 960 looks pretty badly gimped...

I had expected it to compare to 970 like 970 compared to 980, or at least something similar...

I think the only thing remains is how the 4GB 960 and 970 compare, I have a funny feeling that the prices will be too close for 960 to compete against 970
 
I was looking at the 960 but with those numbers not so much now.
Looks like a 750ti on steroids, not a huge bump if you already have a 750ti.
 
ep0x73 said:
I was looking at the 960 but with those numbers not so much now.
Looks like a 750ti on steroids, not a huge bump if you already have a 750ti.
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Um even the 760 is already over 50% faster than the 750 Ti. This card will be faster than the 760 so yes it will be a "huge bump" up if you are coming from a 750 Ti.
 
Hard to say unless we see the benchmark numbers.
I don't recall seeing the 760 being 50% faster then the 750ti, maybe 30%.
Again, you have to dig up real stats to compare.

Depending on price it might be just as well to get a 970.
 
2GB VRAM? In 2015? Card will be useless on arrival. I didn't play a game in 2014 that didn't use less than 2-3GB VRAM (except D3;ROS) @ lowly 1080p. This is the shit the pisses me off about Nvidia. They know damn well that 3GB VRAM is the minimum now and that is quickly changing and they pull some shit with a 2GB card? Shameful. Forget AAA games or anything remotely demanding, modded, or DSR, or making use of the hardware, the card is VRAM limited.

But I guess it will be great for 2D indie platformers! SMH Nvidia.:rolleyes:
 
What the hell is this garbage? 2gb ram?? They made the 970 so well that they just couldn't top off the 960 further to bring it close. Grab the 970 and call it a day, it's the best card for this term. Funny thing is, 970/980 are considered high ends where as the 960 is probably not even a mid-range card from it's specs.
 
ep0x73 said:
Hard to say unless we see the benchmark numbers.
I don't recall seeing the 760 being 50% faster then the 750ti, maybe 30%.
Again, you have to dig up real stats to compare.

Depending on price it might be just as well to get a 970.
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Simply go to techpowerup and look at reviews as its a little over 50 percent faster.
 
There's nothing better at targeting performance segments in product lineups than limiting the ram. NVidia clearly doesn't want the 960 / 960 Ti variants to be anything resembling a threat to the 970.

Also, here's the 760 vs. the 750 Ti in benchmarks.
 
I haven't followed the sub-970 9xx parts closely at all. Quick question. Does the 960 series support SLI? If so, that's a big differentiator from the 750Ti parts. (maybe less so than the 76x) It also might not make good financial sense though. I guess if you started with on 960, and then added another later... Otherwise, saving and buying a 970 is probably still the best plan. Quite happy with my 970. (upgraded from a 660Ti)
 
Vatican said:
What the hell is this garbage? 2gb ram?? They made the 970 so well that they just couldn't top off the 960 further to bring it close. Grab the 970 and call it a day, it's the best card for this term. Funny thing is, 970/980 are considered high ends where as the 960 is probably not even a mid-range card from it's specs.
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If you're upset with Nvidia, buy a used card, 780 or whatever, instead. Starve them of as much income as possible until they deliver a product worth buying. Every product you buy from a company not delivering goods you actually want is supporting that company. Every time you buy a rebranded Nvidia card (not that the 960 is a rebrand but we know they do a lot of rebrands in general), you are supporting the business practice of rebranding cards.

Personally I am waiting for 20nm or lower. I don't give a crap if it's AMD/Nvidia or TSMC at fault. I don't care if it takes another 5 years. The only way they might get me to buy another 28nm card is if they reduce the price of the cards significantly. If they aren't paying a ton of money towards new processes for those cards, I sure as hell expect the savings to be passed on to the consumer. And maybe with 20nm, Nvidia would have been able to meet our expectations with the 960 instead of this gimpy piece of crap*. (* at least compared to what it could have been)

It's AMD/Nvidia's fault for relying so heavily on TSMC. Especially AMD - why the hell didn't they ever fab their own cards, and why haven't they gotten GloFo to do it yet?
 
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I can't wait for the 950, 950ti, 940, 940ti, 930, 930ti and (crosses fingers) 920 and 920 ti!
 
Hulk said:
I can't wait for the 950, 950ti, 940, 940ti, 930, 930ti and (crosses fingers) 920 and 920 ti!
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The 900MX is where it's at though. $22.47 Single small black passive heat-sink.
 
tonyftw said:
Guessing the ti variant will be 4gb standard.
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Well if the regular 960 is 128 bit then I doubt the 960 ti will be 256 bit as that would make no sense. I assume the 960 ti will be 192 bit and 3 gb if its cut down gm204.
 
misterbobby said:
Simply go to techpowerup and look at reviews as its a little over 50 percent faster.
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I did see benches and not many 50% frame rates.

30 frames vs 45 is not 50%....

Course it's more powerful, draws more power and puts out more heat.

If the 960 is barely better then the 760 then it's not a very good deal.
 
ep0x73 said:
I did see benches and not many 50% frame rates.

30 frames vs 45 is not 50%....

Course it's more powerful, draws more power and puts out more heat.

If the 960 is barely better then the 760 then it's not a very good deal.
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Um 45 is 50% more than 30. ;)


And here is a summary from the site I told you to check out earlier. The 760 is 55% faster than the 750 ti at 1080.


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ep0x73 said:
I did see benches and not many 50% frame rates.

30 frames vs 45 is not 50%....

Course it's more powerful, draws more power and puts out more heat.

If the 960 is barely better then the 760 then it's not a very good deal.
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J3RK said:
I haven't followed the sub-970 9xx parts closely at all. Quick question. Does the 960 series support SLI? If so, that's a big differentiator from the 750Ti parts. (maybe less so than the 76x) It also might not make good financial sense though. I guess if you started with on 960, and then added another later... Otherwise, saving and buying a 970 is probably still the best plan. Quite happy with my 970. (upgraded from a 660Ti)
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Yes, the midrange parts typically support SLI, depending on the generation, up to 3way SLI.

misterbobby said:
Well if the regular 960 is 128 bit then I doubt the 960 ti will be 256 bit as that would make no sense. I assume the 960 ti will be 192 bit and 3 gb if its cut down gm204.
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I have heard possibilities of both. I'm going to go with, it will be whichever has the higher supply without artificial limitations.
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Posting while tired usually does not pan out so well.

Back to the point, this is about the 960 and how for the price it will most likely be will it really be a viable option if you already have a 750ti?

I am just not the game player I once was mostly do to DRM bullshit so I play older games and the 750ti I have works great.
I can play Skyrim at 1080@ 60 frames with all eye candy so I am happy.

If you are a hardcore gamer who has to get the latest games then you probably never had a 750ti in the first place.

Power vs price the 970 might still be a better deal.
 
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For people like me on a shoestring budget and 4 years out of date the 960 could be the upgrade I get next depending on price/performance, so I am very intrigued on what this card will bring to the table.

However, that said, the 128-bit memory bus is a bit disconcerting. Last time I bought a card with a 128-bit bus was a GeForce 4 Ti 4400 almost 13 years ago. :/

*waits and watches*
 
I could see the 960 being a nice card for those in the NVidia camp with midrange CPUs who want more performance (and a Maxwell chip) than what the 750 Ti could bring to the table, but would otherwise be GPU-limited going all of the way up to a 970. You do have the 760 and 770, but those are effectively EoL Kepler parts that noone honestly wants.
 
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Mr. Bluntman said:
For people like me on a shoestring budget and 4 years out of date the 960 could be the upgrade I get next depending on price/performance, so I am very intrigued on what this card will bring to the table.

However, that said, the 128-bit memory bus is a bit disconcerting. Last time I bought a card with a 128-bit bus was a GeForce 4 Ti 4400 almost 13 years ago. :/

*waits and watches*
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Yeah no doubt it has it's place in the market but I would strongly recommend waiting for a 4GB VRAM model. If 2015 is anything like 2014 then VRAM will be one of the most important factors moving forward in purchasing a new card. AAA games and most of the console ports are already using well over 2GB and in the 3GB range at a mere 1080P. The consoles have an avilable ~ 5-6GB VRAM (basically) at their disposal and it shows in the ports we are getting.
 
naticus said:
Yeah no doubt it has it's place in the market but I would strongly recommend waiting for a 4GB VRAM model. If 2015 is anything like 2014 then VRAM will be one of the most important factors moving forward in purchasing a new card. AAA games and most of the console ports are already using well over 2GB and in the 3GB range at a mere 1080P. The consoles have an avilable ~ 5-6GB VRAM (basically) at their disposal and it shows in the ports we are getting.
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True, however if this card is as badly cut down as the rumors indicate and performs as such, I may just pick up a similar (or better) performing 760 for $100 less.
 
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