New iPhone(s) on September 9th

I upgraded from a 5s to a 6 plus. I feel like the 6 plus will alleviate a lot of my issues. I won't need my Nexus 7 (hopefully) I'll get very good standby battery (hopefully) and NFC payments are something I've been crying for apple to do for five years now.

I am extremely skeptical as to whether or not I'm comfortable using a damn 5.5" monster as my phone, however I am hoping I can deal with the compromises.

I really hope I do not drop the thing. That extra surface area would be devastating. I couldn't imagine not having a carrier warranty.
 
ch0rx said:
I upgraded from a 5s to a 6 plus. I feel like the 6 plus will alleviate a lot of my issues. I won't need my Nexus 7 (hopefully) I'll get very good standby battery (hopefully) and NFC payments are something I've been crying for apple to do for five years now.

I am extremely skeptical as to whether or not I'm comfortable using a damn 5.5" monster as my phone, however I am hoping I can deal with the compromises.

I really hope I do not drop the thing. That extra surface area would be devastating. I couldn't imagine not having a carrier warranty.
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AppleCare?
 
ch0rx said:
I upgraded from a 5s to a 6 plus. I feel like the 6 plus will alleviate a lot of my issues. I won't need my Nexus 7 (hopefully) I'll get very good standby battery (hopefully) and NFC payments are something I've been crying for apple to do for five years now.

I am extremely skeptical as to whether or not I'm comfortable using a damn 5.5" monster as my phone, however I am hoping I can deal with the compromises.

I really hope I do not drop the thing. That extra surface area would be devastating. I couldn't imagine not having a carrier warranty.
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You shouldn't have any issues with the size. When I went from my iPhone 5 to the Note 3, it took about a week or so to fully get used to holding it and playing with the surface area. I'm still wanting to see the new iPhones in person, curious.
 
ch0rx said:
I upgraded from a 5s to a 6 plus. I feel like the 6 plus will alleviate a lot of my issues. I won't need my Nexus 7 (hopefully) I'll get very good standby battery (hopefully) and NFC payments are something I've been crying for apple to do for five years now.

I am extremely skeptical as to whether or not I'm comfortable using a damn 5.5" monster as my phone, however I am hoping I can deal with the compromises.

I really hope I do not drop the thing. That extra surface area would be devastating. I couldn't imagine not having a carrier warranty.
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The 6+ is close to the size of the Note 3 (very slightly taller). So if you want to see what its like go play with one at the store.
 
ocellaris said:
AppleCare?
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Sprint offers a Sprint warranty for $10/mo, I'd take that over applecare any day.

They don't charge you per-repair.



I'll have to go check out a note 3 after I get out of the office today. I have a slot in my car that looks like it fits phones very well. My 5s is super small in it, I'm hoping the 6 plus slides in. I'll have to measure and determine if I'm going to spend tonight running cable through the console to go to a much nicer spot for phones/wallets.

Thanks for the advice guys.
 
ch0rx said:
I upgraded from a 5s to a 6 plus. I feel like the 6 plus will alleviate a lot of my issues. I won't need my Nexus 7 (hopefully) I'll get very good standby battery (hopefully) and NFC payments are something I've been crying for apple to do for five years now.

I am extremely skeptical as to whether or not I'm comfortable using a damn 5.5" monster as my phone, however I am hoping I can deal with the compromises.

I really hope I do not drop the thing. That extra surface area would be devastating. I couldn't imagine not having a carrier warranty.
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That is why I went with the 4,7 inch. I have the iPad mini so I feel if I need a tablet ill just pull that out.

I ordered a $7 case for the 4.7 inch and it came in yesterday and holding it in my hand I am glad I didnt get the 5.5 inch.

I am 6'4" tall. Fingers together my hand is 4 1/2 inches wide by 8 1/2 inches long from tip to wrist. The 4.7 fits comfortably in my hand but still feels big which I like. The 5.5 would have just been uncomfortable with the use of 1 hand.
 
If you had these 2 options -

1. Note 4 32GB
2. iPhone 6+ 16GB

which would you pick? I have to say I'm tempted by the iPhone 6 since I've never owned one, and I know things like Pay will be better supported, on the other hand I'm used to Android customizations, notifications etc.

All of Google stuff works just as well on the iPhone, right?
 
MrCrispy said:
If you had these 2 options -

1. Note 4 32GB
2. iPhone 6+ 16GB

which would you pick? I have to say I'm tempted by the iPhone 6 since I've never owned one, and I know things like Pay will be better supported, on the other hand I'm used to Android customizations, notifications etc.

All of Google stuff works just as well on the iPhone, right?
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I wouldn't buy a 16GB phone (with no SD expansion) I plan to use for a couple of years. I don't feel like I have a lot of stuff on my 16GB iPhone 5, however I still find myself needing to manage the space. Some newer games are pretty large as well. So Note 4 would be my pick from those two.

Anyway I ended up ordering a 64 GB iPhone 6 for my $299 phone purchase.
 
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MrCrispy said:
If you had these 2 options -

1. Note 4 32GB
2. iPhone 6+ 16GB

which would you pick? I have to say I'm tempted by the iPhone 6 since I've never owned one, and I know things like Pay will be better supported, on the other hand I'm used to Android customizations, notifications etc.

All of Google stuff works just as well on the iPhone, right?
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Only you can really make that decision, and it comes down to what OS makes your life easier (and makes using it more fun). I went iPhone to Android, and I prefer Android now, but a lot of people prefer the simplicity of iOS. If you're asking me which I'D pick for you, I'd go with the Note 4 every day.
 
MrCrispy said:
If you had these 2 options -

1. Note 4 32GB
2. iPhone 6+ 16GB

which would you pick? I have to say I'm tempted by the iPhone 6 since I've never owned one, and I know things like Pay will be better supported, on the other hand I'm used to Android customizations, notifications etc.

All of Google stuff works just as well on the iPhone, right?
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Like ocellaris said, get the 64GB.

I went from being an iphone user to an android user back to an iphone. I enjoy the simplicity of the iphone more. Its suppose to have more customization with the 6.

Honestly I stick with the iphone because it runs stable. When I had my EVO it would always crash, errors, etc. never had a problem with my iphone,
 
DRJ1014 said:
Like ocellaris said, get the 64GB.

I went from being an iphone user to an android user back to an iphone. I enjoy the simplicity of the iphone more. Its suppose to have more customization with the 6.

Honestly I stick with the iphone because it runs stable. When I had my EVO it would always crash, errors, etc. never had a problem with my iphone,
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Funny, my iPhone 5 would constantly bog down with 2-3 apps open, and constantly have apps crashing left and right, but that's not so much the phone's issue (for the most part).

Never had an Evo though, so something else going on there.
 
MrCrispy said:
If you had these 2 options -

1. Note 4 32GB
2. iPhone 6+ 16GB
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Option 3. Don't get another phone...

I will not touch iOS or TouchWiz (not even the stupid menu/settings). Both are abominations.

I may consider the Note 4 GPE if I can get one at subsidized pricing. But that cheap plastic... I'll take quality plastic like in the Nokia's or Moto's. Screw it. I'll just take the screen and have in the my Oculus Rift...
 
Domini said:
Really, what would that be, besides moving apps around and changing the notification bar?
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Widgets, third party keyboards its not much, there might be more but its a start.

The thing I have found with apple is yeah they might be a little behind on releasing stuff but when they do there are little to no problems with it.

Some people I know with android or google phones have constant problems with their phones. Some people dont. I guess its just the luck of the draw but I find more people have more problems with android than any other phone.

The only problem I have had with my iPhone is the ear piece speaker going out after a little over 2 years with some water damage and dropping it a few times.
 
DRJ1014 said:
Like ocellaris said, get the 64GB.

I went from being an iphone user to an android user back to an iphone. I enjoy the simplicity of the iphone more. Its suppose to have more customization with the 6.

Honestly I stick with the iphone because it runs stable. When I had my EVO it would always crash, errors, etc. never had a problem with my iphone,
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Funny story about the Evo, at the time I was in retail and in charge of being the first one in the store to open the doors, get the cashiers ready etc. My alarm clock crashed. I woke up to my district manager in a meltdown. I was stupid enough to let it happen again. It was a running joke that I bought shitty phones to have an excuse to wake up late. I went back to iOS as soon as the 4s came out.

From there, I bought a galaxy nexus/gs4 and they were much nicer experiences, I ran a pretty trusted rom on the GS4, but I'll always remember the convoluted unstable mess gingerbread was.
 
Heard 2 things that were pretty disappointing for me.
1: No haptic feedback on the 3rd party keyboards. I love this feature on my android devices.
2: NFC is locked to Apply Pay only. Am I the only one who remembers the part of the keynote where they talked about using the NFC on the phone/watch to do cool stuff like open your hotel door?
 
MrCrispy said:
All of Google stuff works just as well on the iPhone, right?
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This is the "depends" game. Android devices doesn't have the fidelity of control over 3rd party devices like iPhones do, also the iPhone handles Bluetooth connections much better.

On the other hand Android is very simplistic with its approach of integrating Youtube, maps, Voice controls etc. I also have far less issues with video playback on my Note 3 then my wife's 5S.

If ApplePay was important to you right now I'd say switch but the pro's and con's that used to separate the two don't exist anymore.
 
One imp thing for me is Google Voice support, specifically being able to tell the phone to make all calls via GV with no prompts or tricks. I can do this in Android trivially, not sure if iOS can after the recent updates. I also expect that Messages won't be able to work with GV like Hangouts does.

Its really a shame Apple refuses to open up their system at all. Even the Extensions support is a pale imitation of what you can do in Android, with no added security really.
 
MrCrispy said:
One imp thing for me is Google Voice support, specifically being able to tell the phone to make all calls via GV with no prompts or tricks.
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This is where Android just does it better. With my Android devices, I can choose to have GV as my main phone number, partial, or just for international calls. Its seamless once you pick it as the default. IOS, you will have to open up the app and use the dialer inside it. Phone calls are handled separately through your cell phone and GV numbers.

I also expect that Messages won't be able to work with GV like Hangouts does.
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Right. iMessages is a completely different thing. My entire family uses imessage so its a little confusing when I use an android phone. Sometimes they don't even get my SMS's or I goof and send it to a previous hangout instead of through SMS.

Its really a shame Apple refuses to open up their system at all. Even the Extensions support is a pale imitation of what you can do in Android, with no added security really.
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I agree, but its also one thing that makes IOS what it is. It's safe, stable, and easy to use even for the least tech savvy people. Options are confusing for some people and others just want a phone that works, not one they can spend hours customizing. To each their own I guess.
 
Yes, I was pretty much ready to give iPhone and iOS a try, and really looking forward to a new experience, Pay, Passbook, Health apps etc - all that stuff does work better in Apple controlled ecosystem.

But bad GV support is a dealbreaker, I use it as my primary number and have for years, I oftenpick up calls on my pc when the phone isn't around, now I reply to sms from pc etc, its a lifesaver, and I save the cost of a txt plan also.
 
MrCrispy said:
Yes, I was pretty much ready to give iPhone and iOS a try, and really looking forward to a new experience, Pay, Passbook, Health apps etc - all that stuff does work better in Apple controlled ecosystem.

But bad GV support is a dealbreaker, I use it as my primary number and have for years, I oftenpick up calls on my pc when the phone isn't around, now I reply to sms from pc etc, its a lifesaver, and I save the cost of a txt plan also.
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This is the weakest point of IOS. If something isn't a part of the IOS ecosystem, it's very segregated from the rest of the system. If you don't like Apple's iMessage? Thats too bad. If you don't like their dialer? Too bad. Don't like the email client? Sorry, too bad.

I use google hangouts about as much as you use voice and IOS is barely good enough for me to use on IOS. I would be beyond happy with IOS if they let you integrate apps together (like allowing me to use a google hangouts account on imessage alongside my icloud account), but that will never happen. For now, I have to use imessage for all my text messages, and hangouts for all my hangout communication.
 
^I agree. And this is where the whole 'its simple to use' argument falls flat. It should be simple to use for a users needs, not force them to adapt to a certain way of doing things for zero benefit.
 
People are surprised a non-Android phone doesn't work as well with GOOGLE Voice :eek:
 
lloose said:
This is the weakest point of IOS. If something isn't a part of the IOS ecosystem, it's very segregated from the rest of the system. If you don't like Apple's iMessage? Thats too bad. If you don't like their dialer? Too bad. Don't like the email client? Sorry, too bad.

I use google hangouts about as much as you use voice and IOS is barely good enough for me to use on IOS. I would be beyond happy with IOS if they let you integrate apps together (like allowing me to use a google hangouts account on imessage alongside my icloud account), but that will never happen. For now, I have to use imessage for all my text messages, and hangouts for all my hangout communication.
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Yup
 
ocellaris said:
People are surprised a non-Android phone doesn't work as well with GOOGLE Voice :eek:
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Why not? Gmail, search, even Google Now from all accounts work great on iOS. In fact iOS gets many Google features (like voice calling from Hangouts, new Gmail design) before Android. If Apple had a hook into the dialer, I'm sure GV would too.
 
On the other side, people like my mom who doesn't have a gmail account, doesn't use google calendar, google drive, or any other google service, would be very happy with an iphone. Out of the box a single account gets her an iCloud account, 5gb of storage, integrated apps inside icloud's ecosystem, and features like imessage that she will never understand, but will enjoy the heck out of. I know that Google offers all of this and more with 1 account, but Apple makes it so idiot proof that I know I could give a new iphone to my mom and she can do all her normal mom online crap within 10 minutes, all with "from my iphone" at the bottom of it.
 
Apple doesn't develop/put much time into alternative options because they only really care about people's experience within their ecosystem. iMessage and the likes are the perfect examples of this. If you and your friends have iPhones there is absolutely zero need for an alternative. Personally it doesn't bother me since everything I use works fine on my iPhone. I have no need for Google Voice or anything like that, if I did I would probably use Android instead.
 
I'm eating a little crow about google hangouts and voice. I just tested it and it works really well. When I call into my google voice number, it shows up as a regular call on my iphone like someone calling my regular phone number. I'm still remembering the old Skype days where you had to have the app open to even have it work. For calling out, you still have to do it through the app, but I am genuinely surprised at how well it worked for incoming calls.

It's still not as optimal as the android version but thats expected I guess. My only gripe is still there where if I get a hangout message and the app isn't open, I won't see it or get a notification about it until I open the app again.
 
MrCrispy said:
It should be simple to use for a users needs, not force them to adapt to a certain way of doing things for zero benefit.
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Apple is a 90/10 company. They optimize the user experience for 90% of customers, knowing that they eschew the 10% who need for things to be more malleable. For users, it's adapt or die, and 90% adapt with little heartache.

That malleability, by the way, doesn't come with zero development cost. When any given feature is implemented at the expense of something else, the time they'd spend trying to capture that 10% user is time they can't spend capturing that 90% user. Given their sales volume, would you suggest they're on the crab?
 
I don't know how anyone in their right mind would prefer an android phone over an iPhone.
 
lloose said:
I'm eating a little crow about google hangouts and voice. I just tested it and it works really well. When I call into my google voice number, it shows up as a regular call on my iphone like someone calling my regular phone number. I'm still remembering the old Skype days where you had to have the app open to even have it work. For calling out, you still have to do it through the app, but I am genuinely surprised at how well it worked for incoming calls.

It's still not as optimal as the android version but thats expected I guess. My only gripe is still there where if I get a hangout message and the app isn't open, I won't see it or get a notification about it until I open the app again.
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For hangout, unless you have logged out or disable the remote push notification, it should always show the notification for new messages.
 
Omerta said:
I don't know how anyone in their right mind would prefer an android phone over an iPhone.
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I hate the iOS user interface, but I would still prefer it over TouchWiz. Both are abominations. So if you had said that you don't know why anyone would prefer a Samsung phone over an iPhone, I'd believe you.

That said, when is the last time you used a non-Samsung android phone?
 
Omerta said:
I don't know how anyone in their right mind would prefer an android phone over an iPhone.
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I don't know how anyone in their right mind could be a vegan. I don't know how anyone in their right mind could tolerate _insert random band here_.

:rolleyes:

CHANG3D said:
I hate the iOS user interface, but I would still prefer it over TouchWiz. Both are abominations. So if you had said that you don't know why anyone would prefer a Samsung phone over an iPhone, I'd believe you.

That said, when is the last time you used a non-Samsung android phone?
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Idk man, TouchWiz has it's quirks, but iOS does too at times, yet I find both are honestly good enough...for NOW. I expect constant movement forward for both, but it feels like things have come to a stand still..or at least it feels that way.
 
ch0rx said:
Funny story about the Evo, at the time I was in retail and in charge of being the first one in the store to open the doors, get the cashiers ready etc. My alarm clock crashed. I woke up to my district manager in a meltdown. I was stupid enough to let it happen again. It was a running joke that I bought shitty phones to have an excuse to wake up late. I went back to iOS as soon as the 4s came out.

From there, I bought a galaxy nexus/gs4 and they were much nicer experiences, I ran a pretty trusted rom on the GS4, but I'll always remember the convoluted unstable mess gingerbread was.
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My brother doesnt even use his alarm on his S4 because of all the times it has failed and people reporting it has just reset randomly.

I can only imagine waking up to your DM lol
 
With Android, even with an oem skin, you can replace/customize every aspect of your phone except for very few things (like settings). So e.g. if you don't like the TW launcher, camera, gallery etc, replace it. Can't do that in iOS.
 
CHANG3D said:
I hate the iOS user interface, but I would still prefer it over TouchWiz. Both are abominations. So if you had said that you don't know why anyone would prefer a Samsung phone over an iPhone, I'd believe you.

That said, when is the last time you used a non-Samsung android phone?
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Outside of color choices and contrast, the iOS UI is great. The iPhone isn't the best selling smartphone because of its hardware. It's the top selling smartphone because its UI is the most intuitive to use for the average person. I don't care about customizing my phone and crap and don't understand why people care about that. It's a phone, not a desktop computer. I just want it to work.

Oh and I have a Nexus 4. It's collecting dust.
 
Omerta said:
Outside of color choices and contrast, the iOS UI is great. The iPhone isn't the best selling smartphone because of its hardware. It's the top selling smartphone because its UI is the most intuitive to use for the average person. I don't care about customizing my phone and crap and don't understand why people care about that. It's a phone, not a desktop computer. I just want it to work.

Oh and I have a Nexus 4. It's collecting dust.
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Hey, different people have different tastes. Some really like customizing their phones, others just want it to make things easy. Neither is necessarily better, so long as the hardware (and any custom software, in Android's case) is up to snuff. I, for, one, enjoy using both Android and iOS... and don't think it has to be a zero sum game where one platform must lose for the other to win.
 
Having an UI that behaves like Windows 95 is probably way more intuitive than says Windows 8... it's just what more people are used to. I have to give credit to Apple for making little changes to Windows 95 instead of a big jump like Microsoft did...

P. S. here we go again, I swiped "Apple" on my SwiftKey Flow, and it returned "Asshole" (so did this attempt too!)
 
Omerta said:
Outside of color choices and contrast, the iOS UI is great.
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No kidding. I love the UI as in, how everything behaves, for the most part, but the iOS7+ color scheme sucks at night. I was hoping for a 'night time' mode/skin as the white color scheme can be blinding at times. I've been using the accessibility short-cut (tripple click) to invert the screen but it also inverts images, which makes it less than ideal. It's great in direct sunlight though.

I would of also liked the icons to have more contrast against the background. Unless you're using a very dark background, the icons tend to blend into the wallpaper.
 
Not a fan of the "My Little Pony" theme introduced in iOS7 :p

It amazes me, that Apple still doesn't allow something so basic and simple as custom icon packs :rolleyes:
 
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