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Opinions on the climate change issue aside, you have to admit, this is a pretty neat use for Google Street View.
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Hmm, I think it would have been a lot more interesting and impactful if you could set a rise in sea levels and then compare it to your address using altitude data.
Even if all the ice caps melted the sea level would "only" rise about 200 feet. I'm not trying to comment on climate change or the impact of sea level rise on the worlds (human) populations, but rather point out that I happen to live at a location that is 1300ft above sea level.
That renders this untruthful and gimmicky, rather than impactful and interesting, IMHO.
You're totally right, the shift we're seeing on this scale has happened many times before. The only difference is it normally takes about a hundred thousand years instead of a hundred.And the fact that this has happened to the Earth several times before humans were even here...so stop with the smug "global warming" comments...k?
but the good thing is that sea level rise isn't gonna be like an overnight thing
This is exactly the reason nothing will be done until it's too late. People have no concept of time when things happen this slowly.
You're totally right, the shift we're seeing on this scale has happened many times before. The only difference is it normally takes about a hundred thousand years instead of a hundred.
This is exactly the reason nothing will be done until it's too late. People have no concept of time when things happen this slowly.
It wont happen in 100 years.
Only gullible people think that.
It would be very neat if they actually did worldwide calculations of the actual waterlevels as they will be when the Greenland ice-sheet has melted in 20 years or so. That is between 6 and 9 meters ocean sea-level rise. That would not only be neat, but actually useful.
If your home is at a location 1300ft above sea level, and the sea rises 200 ft, your home is going to look absolutely nothing like it does now anyway, every major city in the US besides Denver moves in to your backyard.
If your home is at a location 1300ft above sea level, and the sea rises 200 ft, your home is going to look absolutely nothing like it does now anyway, every major city in the US besides Denver moves in to your backyard.
Oh well, at least Florida will finally go away. That place was a lame, alligator infested swamp anyhow.
I don't know shit, but did you ever drop an ice cube in a glass of water? When it melts the water level in the glass remains constant. Something in physics about displacement. If all the icebergs melted I think sea level would remain the same, just a guess.
I don't know shit, but did you ever drop an ice cube in a glass of water? When it melts the water level in the glass remains constant. Something in physics about displacement. If all the icebergs melted I think sea level would remain the same, just a guess.
WTF?! Are you serious? I've always thought you were a troll, but flooding Florida to get rid of it isn't the best answer. You said it yourself - ALLIGATOR INFESTED SWAMP. Where are those 'gator's going to go when it floods? They'll move to the new swamps and waterways. Keep them in the current swamps, not in my backyard. Unless I am able to hunt and eat them, I'll stay back.
Safest bet is to just start building a 20' tall wall of sandbags around the state now. That'll keep them on their side and be added insurance that useful states aren't flooded.Well, besides covering it with ocean, how else are we gonna get rid of it? It's not like it's on its own tectonic plate and is gonna break off from the rest of the US and go away by itself like California will eventually (thank goodness) and I don't see all those lazy people living in Florida digging a big ditch so there's a waterway keeping Florida's awful influence to itself. There really isn't any other way of solving the Florida Problem other than by global warming and melting ice.
You're totally right, the shift we're seeing on this scale has happened many times before. The only difference is it normally takes about a hundred thousand years instead of a hundred.
Safest bet is to just start building a 20' tall wall of sandbags around the state now. That'll keep them on their side and be added insurance that useful states aren't flooded.
Well, besides covering it with ocean, how else are we gonna get rid of it? It's not like it's on its own tectonic plate and is gonna break off from the rest of the US and go away by itself like California will eventually (thank goodness) and I don't see all those lazy people living in Florida digging a big ditch so there's a waterway keeping Florida's awful influence to itself. There really isn't any other way of solving the Florida Problem other than by global warming and melting ice.
I don't care about the people. I'm just concerned about alligators getting relocated to other places.
Wait - does California go away, too? I can deal with those gators if Florida AND California are gone.
Even if someone doesn't buy into it, I don't think that it justifies being wasteful or just ignoring the idea of saving energy. Not that you are or anything, but there are sooo many people driving around huge trucks and SUVs with only themselves in them to get to and from work everyday while leaving a bunch of things plugged in and turned on at home while they aren't even there to use those things. It seems sorta like a no-duh from a "save piles of moolah" perspective which keeps short-sightedness happy and mixes pretty well with conservation too.
I wasn't talking about flooding, the guy I was replying to was saying we're having no effect on global warming. I'm talking about the level of climate shift we've already had over the past 100 years normally takes about a hundred thousand.It wont happen in 100 years.
Only gullible people think that.
Well on a timescale of it happening naturally, we may already be extinct or evolved into something else by then, so I don't think it's worth worrying about. More generally however, I think the bottom line is we generally want humanity and a good level of diverse life in general to survive. So if we were facing some apocalyptic cooling event, sure, global warming should be our priority, but that's not really the situation we're in at all. That would imply we had some purpose to what we're doing. In our current case, I'd say it's mostly just a huge side effect of 150 years of industrial growth.SilverSliver said:One thing to note is that, eventually, the climate will change on it's own. The ice will melt, and sea levels WILL rise. If it's the natural course of the Earth to have this cyclic changes in climate, should we even tamper with that? If we are against 'negative' climate change - in essence a global warming event that may be partially caused by humans - then when the Earth naturally gets colder or warmer should we tamper to prevent those scenarios?.
Whether AGW is bullshit or not, I don't know any normal people who believe pumping poison into the environment in any measurable amount is a good idea. However, the belief that alternative energy has a shot in hell at fixing this problem are beyond naive. Are we going to quit using plastics? Electronics? Medicines? Pesticides?
We'll never be able to re-balance our ecosystem with a limitless human population. We're essentially 6 billion apex predators who not only eat, but live in large structures, utilize tons of hazardous materials and can live for 110 years. That's a recipe for disaster that will only be re-balanced when the planet kills most of us.
I don't care about the people. I'm just concerned about alligators getting relocated to other places.
Wait - does California go away, too? I can deal with those gators if Florida AND California are gone.
Unfortunately climate change is not an opinion.
Well on a timescale of it happening naturally, we may already be extinct or evolved into something else by then, so I don't think it's worth worrying about. More generally however, I think the bottom line is we generally want humanity and a good level of diverse life in general to survive. So if we were facing some apocalyptic cooling event, sure, global warming should be our priority, but that's not really the situation we're in at all. That would imply we had some purpose to what we're doing. In our current case, I'd say it's mostly just a huge side effect of 150 years of industrial growth.
Mostly back to Mexico I would assume. *shrugs*But if California goes away where will all the Californians go?