Krenum
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This isn't a matter of freedom but of privacy.
Privacy is a freedom.
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This isn't a matter of freedom but of privacy.
Privacy is a freedom.
Nope, it's not. There's nothing documented in the Constitution regarding privacy. It isn't a baseline thing that you get. I'm pretty sure the word privacy doesn't even appear in it anyplace or in the Bill of Rights.
Amendment IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Yup, thanks for the big font. Where's the word "privacy" again in that?
Wow. Contracted with Fed for black projects, and skips off to a communist country.
I don't care if he found out who really killed JFK, he's a fooking traitor and a low-life scumbag.
He doesn't like the US spying, but he flies the the country with the most active spying program in the world? He's nothing but a rat.
Yup, thanks for the big font. Where's the word "privacy" again in that?
Privacy is not in that directly, though requiring probable cause and a warrant is. Secure in their persons and effects is. We know we don't have privacy in a public place, but we do have privacy on our own property. Wiretapping regular people without warrant or probable cause is illegal, no matter how little respect you have for your fellow man.
That's one of those wierd things that people have started to feel like they're entitled to have, but were never given to begin with though. I can see that it's sorta reasonable to want that from a private company, but from your government? What do people think they have that's so important that it's worth hiding and why do they infer that the 4th, which was meant to protect personal property from seizure, has even a little to do with privacy?
The whole privacy concept doesn't even exist in the Constitution. If people want it, they really need to make a new amendment for it instead of complaining that they don't have it when there was never any allowances made for it to begin with.
Following your logic the government should be able to put a camera in your bathroom to check to sure you are not pooping weapons grade uranium right? Come on man. Expect more from your government.
Are you serious or are you the product of today's worthless, revisionist high school civics education?
He's a troll. Nothing he ever says makes any sense.
The fact he can't equate 'unreasonable searches' with 'privacy' should just enhance this.
I've never seen him on his old (banned) account(s) or new account say anything meaningful (not completely retarded).
He's a troll. Nothing he ever says makes any sense.
The fact he can't equate 'unreasonable searches' with 'privacy' should just enhance this.
I've never seen him on his old (banned) account(s) or new account say anything meaningful (not completely retarded).
That's one of those wierd things that people have started to feel like they're entitled to have, but were never given to begin with though. I can see that it's sorta reasonable to want that from a private company, but from your government? What do people think they have that's so important that it's worth hiding and why do they infer that the 4th, which was meant to protect personal property from seizure, has even a little to do with privacy?
The whole privacy concept doesn't even exist in the Constitution. If people want it, they really need to make a new amendment for it instead of complaining that they don't have it when there was never any allowances made for it to begin with.
It's kinda pointless to quote something without addressing it.
Following your logic the government should be able to put a camera in your bathroom to check to sure you are not pooping weapons grade uranium right? Come on man. Expect more from your government.
Sure, whatever they want is fine with me. I've got nothing to hide from them so I don't really care what they're watching. Just like I've said before, there are more worthwhile people to watch that want to do dumb stuff to the state, or at least rant about it online so they can impress other computer nerds, that are worth watching and maybe carting away to summer camp.
Apologist? I think they're both assholes. I'm pointing out that the debate quickly becomes an Obama vs Bush argument instead of the reality that is all the people are bitching about Obama or Bush while ignoring that the very representative they have in congress that they voted for supported the legislation. So, they won't take responsibility themselves for voting for a guy that supported it ... so they blame the President(s). You really missed the point.
Yup, thanks for the big font. Where's the word "privacy" again in that?
Your phones have NEVER been private. Ever.
Your phones have NEVER been private. Ever.
That is the history of telecommunications. It has caught serial killers, spies, murderers, child molesters, terrorists, etc.
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"We hold these truths to be self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
You want to be judged 24/7? Because that is what you're giving them permission to do if you don't mind being watched in the privacy of your own home.
Let me get this straight.
If someone demanded to see your personal financial paperwork and records of your phone usage you would say "Sure, those things are for public record".
BS. You would say "Hell no, those are my personal PRIVATE information and you have no business with it!"
Seriously though, anyone thinking the gov doing more and more (intrusive) spying is okay are fucking stupid or nuts.
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If a government agency suspects me of doing something sinister
Showing others, you're the example of nuts or stupid or both.
Example:
It (he) doesn't even absorb they're doing all this spying whether they 'suspect' you of anything at all. They're just spying and collecting ALL information they can and WILL use it at a later time...for anything whatsoever!
So just don't do something dumb that requires this collected information to get used against you. It's really only a problem for people who are up to no good anyhow.