Surface Pro Price is to damn HIGH
wait for the early adoption/nerd tax to go down
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Surface Pro Price is to damn HIGH
The biggest thing about that is that Apple will continue to support those apps well into the future.
The apps available for Windows 8 might disappear with Windows 9, along with their compatibility and availability, kind of like the gadgets for Vista/7 did.
I hope that doesn't happen though, unless Microsoft deems the new apps to be a "security risk" as well.
The biggest thing about that is that Apple will continue to support those apps well into the future.
The apps available for Windows 8 might disappear with Windows 9, along with their compatibility and availability, kind of like the gadgets for Vista/7 did.
I hope that doesn't happen though, unless Microsoft deems the new apps to be a "security risk" as well.
What software would you run on it?
It is a very ineffective or weak marketing on Microsoft's behalf in my opinion. It may sell tablets, but are poorly educating the public about the operating system, and the difference between RT and non-RT Surface, and Surface-like tablets.
He's saying the marketing effort has been weak, not that they shouldn't be offering options. Frankly, I don't understand how you got from his point A to your point B. Perhaps you need to re-read his post.It's actually very effective, and savvy to offer these products. It's called options.
It's actually very effective, and savvy to offer these products.
It's called options. If the consumer cannot educate themselves on what they are purchasing then that is there problem, not M$.
I was wondering if heatless we going to be talking about a digital pen in another win8 thread. I'm not disappointed, mentioned twice already. If I had a lottery ticket for every time he had brought it up.. someone has a digital pen fetish.
I didn't realize an Surface Pro was required for developing Android applications.
Even though, you know, people have been developing them on x86 desktops and laptops for years and years now.
Having a touch screen on the development device makes it easier to develop programs that use a touch interface.
I was wondering if heatless we going to be talking about a digital pen in another win8 thread. I'm not disappointed, mentioned twice already. If I had a lottery ticket for every time he had brought it up.. someone has a digital pen fetish.
You don't have to buy their products. You are not compelled or forced to in any way.
How much you wanna bet if there was a big icon in Metro to switch back to Windows 7, that button would get a whole lot of business
Cool, but my point was about developing touch apps including Android. If that's of no use to you fine but it is a reason why developers might like a device such as the Surface Pro.
So $1000 device to 'boost productivity' developing an app for a deadend store, then you throw Android in there why? Demonstrates the whole point that it should've been made available in the form of an emulator environment to begin with - LIKE Android.
Jimmy McMillan, is that you?Surface Pro Price is to damn HIGH
Are they just copying ipads and android tablets?
So $1000 device to 'boost productivity' developing an app for a deadend store, then you throw Android in there why?
Demonstrates the whole point that it should've been made available in the form of an emulator environment to begin with - LIKE Android.
It is available from a emulator environment. I've done plenty of touch screen development for windows and android on my Windows 8 desktop. But a touch emulator will never be as good as having actual touch hardware regardless of platform.
Waiting for the Lenov Helix, the best hybrid device period.
Are they just copying ipads and android tablets?
I never claimed that an emulated environment is as good as native one. I simply said that have touch input on the development device can make things easier as you don't have to deploy to the native environment constantly and still test an app with it native touch UI. And if one is developing a Windows 8 Modern UI app, there is no emulation needed as the Windows 8 is the native environment.
It might even be more useful for Android developers to test things made for Android devices on an Android device. Since many Android devices are inexpensive, actually using the platform itself for testing seems most sensible.
Except that requires using two devices for testing: one for development and one for testing. Using something like the Surface Pro allows you to use one.
That's a good point. I wonder if it's possible to install Android natively on a Surface Pro. That'd be pretty awesome if you could. Then you could develop and test without emulating the Android environment.
Except that requires using two devices for testing: one for development and one for testing. Using something like the Surface Pro allows you to use one.
there is an x86 port that just may work
I know there is http://www.bluestacks.com/ which sounds interesting but I've never tried it myself.
That's a good point. I wonder if it's possible to install Android natively on a Surface Pro. That'd be pretty awesome if you could. Then you could develop and test without emulating the Android environment.
there is an x86 port that just may work
But virtually all Android devices are ARM based plus there's the issue of running an IDE on Android.
I know there is http://www.bluestacks.com/ which sounds interesting but I've never tried it myself.
had this one running on my netbook awhile back.. goddamn that was fast
http://www.android-x86.org/, did everything on passive cooling alone
But virtually all Android devices are ARM based plus there's the issue of running an IDE on Android.