Last Xbox World Issue Reveals Next Xbox Details

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The Xbox World magazine is issuing its last magazine in December and according to reports, will be going out in fine style. The magazine will be running an 8-page article spilling many of the next-gen Xbox 720 secrets.

The final Xbox World magazine will be coming in December, but before that happens the publisher has used their penultimate issue to spill a bunch of details on the next Xbox codenamed "Durango".
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What in the world are those people thinking?

First they published a "rumor" article where someone was selling an Xbox 720 SDK, and in it there was an Intel CPU with nVidia GPU. That alone is enough for most to call bullshit, but it goes one further, because then they claim it can have up to 8 cores! Yes, folks. Apparently an 8-core Intel CPU running at 150W is sitting inside that small ass plastic box :rolleyes: Don't give me the custom architecture bullshit. It takes a period of years (4-5 years) for custom architectures to roll out.

And then if that's not enough ridiculousness, they're now stating the 720 has 4 physical cores and 16 logical cores. How in the fuck does that line up with an Intel CPU? If the first one didn't make any sense (8 core Intel chip?? Really?) then why a 4-core 16-thread CPU doesn't sound like PowerPC to them forces you to seriously question anything those people are typing up...which apparently is anything at all to get page hits.
 
pelo said:
What in the world are those people thinking?

And then if that's not enough ridiculousness, they're now stating the 720 has 4 physical cores and 16 logical cores. How in the fuck does that line up with an Intel CPU? If the first one didn't make any sense (8 core Intel chip?? Really?) then why a 4-core 16-thread CPU doesn't sound like PowerPC to them forces you to seriously question anything those people are typing up...which apparently is anything at all to get page hits.
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4 core, 8 threads i7, maybe (not mentioned, but it'd be the logical Intel choice)? 4 core, 16 thread isn't Intel. 4 core, with super duper Hyperthreading?

Either it's not Intel, or it's just all bullshit. I'm leaning towards the latter.
 
Ur_Mom said:
4 core, 8 threads i7, maybe (not mentioned, but it'd be the logical Intel choice)? 4 core, 16 thread isn't Intel. 4 core, with super duper Hyperthreading?

Either it's not Intel, or it's just all bullshit. I'm leaning towards the latter.
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Can you imagine the price?

$3000 Xbox 720 console with an 8-core Xeon that somehow fits into a tiny plastic container.
 
I love all the "secrets" that get "leaked" out. There is no better way of drawing attention than using those two keywords. I don't blame Xbox World for wanting to go out in style by having an increased number of copies sold because numerous individuals will believe these alleged "secrets". They're not going to exist after this last issue so they don't care what it does to their reputation.
 
Console gamers trade price for spec's. PC gamers are the opposite.

The console should be under $500 (under $400 would be best, at launch), but if it IS an Intel, it'll have to be an i5 or an older i7 model (or custom). Even mass producing those things and taking a loss on each console, you couldn't do much better than that. Xeon? No way.

I do find it funny that console's are using x86 parts. Watered down PC's. I still love the shit out of them, though. Always have. I've always had consoles and PC's. I play games, not machines.
 
and a large 8 GB of RAM.
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I actually LOL'ed at that comment. Seriously, this thing will be ram limited fast. Even more so if they are sharing the ram with the video card like the 360.
 
If these consoles are going to be sticking around for a longer period of time. They should future proof it SOME what...
 
Intel doesn't really do custom designs as there's not enough money in it to justify the amount of time, engineers and even the wafers for these embedded products. It's often extremely slim as far as margins go and any money that's made (assuming it's x86 here) relies very heavily on tiny royalties that may or may not build up over the lifetime of that particular console.

It wouldn't surprise me if it's another IBM Power architecture or even AMD's Trinity // modular Piledriver cores with an added GPU. Intel's too expensive and wouldn't even bother with consoles and nVidia has already pissed off Microsoft enough
 
LeftSide said:
I actually LOL'ed at that comment. Seriously, this thing will be ram limited fast. Even more so if they are sharing the ram with the video card like the 360.
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Consoles run a VERY slim operating system. Games are designed for one set of hardware in mind and utilize the resources very well. In a PC world, beefier specs for the lifetime of the console (~7 years) would make sense. But, with consoles, you get what works well at the time and go with it. It's been a good way of doing things since long ago.

8 GB of RAM is plenty for a console right now. In 7 years, it may be long in the tooth, but that's how it is supposed to be. Games now can't break that barrier (on PC, consoles have a ways to go). Not so much planned obsolescence, but more of the upgrade cycle. You build it for it's designed lifetime.

If you were on a tight budget, would you sacrifice your CPU to put in 16 GB of RAM on a machine that you are going to upgrade in 1 year? A bit of a stretch on time lines, but PC's upgrade cycle is a lot less... Would you use it in that year for strictly gaming?
 
You realize the current systems use 512MB of ram shared between both system and video card. 8GB is more then enough.
 
Magazine closes, staff publishes bullshit in last desperate attempt to improve sales before closure in order to satisfy annual target for severance packages/improve CVs for re-employment on other publications.
Move along!
 
my bet would be an AMD fusion type cpu/gpu. possibly custom. Not something I would normally buy but I might pick one up for halo.
 
Neurofreeze said:
This is not the PC world.
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No, but one of the first complaints about a new console is always about RAM limitations. Historically, a paltry amount of RAM is put into a console. Often the amount is less than the "standard" on the PC. I do not believe the 8GB of RAM spec and going by the past I'd say it'll be 1GB, maybe 2GB, and be shared with the graphics chip. If we're lucky we will get 4GB and hopefully that'll push developers to make 64-bit games. 8GB? No way, especially with all the rumors about how the next consoles aren't going to push the technological envelope like they usually do. Then again since they might be skimping everywhere else perhaps this time they won't skimp on the amount of RAM? Yeah, I won't hold my breath on that one.

In any case I really don't care what the new consoles may or not be packing. I just want whatever it is to be confirmed soon so I know what to upgrade my PC to.
 
Now I have a reason for them jerking around media center and why Ceton's media extender won't work with Windows 8. Ceton's or Silicondust's tuner + Media Center is now a competing product with this new xbox.
 
pelo said:
What in the world are those people thinking?

First they published a "rumor" article where someone was selling an Xbox 720 SDK, and in it there was an Intel CPU with nVidia GPU. That alone is enough for most to call bullshit, but it goes one further, because then they claim it can have up to 8 cores! Yes, folks. Apparently an 8-core Intel CPU running at 150W is sitting inside that small ass plastic box :rolleyes: Don't give me the custom architecture bullshit. It takes a period of years (4-5 years) for custom architectures to roll out.

And then if that's not enough ridiculousness, they're now stating the 720 has 4 physical cores and 16 logical cores. How in the fuck does that line up with an Intel CPU? If the first one didn't make any sense (8 core Intel chip?? Really?) then why a 4-core 16-thread CPU doesn't sound like PowerPC to them forces you to seriously question anything those people are typing up...which apparently is anything at all to get page hits.
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Early SDKs don't run anything close to final hardware. It's the software that's important for those. It running an Intel CPU means nothing about the actual console's hardware.
 
Bling said:
my bet would be an AMD fusion type cpu/gpu. possibly custom. Not something I would normally buy but I might pick one up for halo.
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Ditto this. A beefed up Brazos 2 would likely do the trick nicely while not melting down the house.
 
Maximus825 said:
Early SDKs don't run anything close to final hardware. It's the software that's important for those. It running an Intel CPU means nothing about the actual console's hardware.
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I'm well aware, but they also published rumors regarding the 720 using a 1-core-to-4-threads architecture which screams IBM Power and has nothing to do with x86, whether Intel or AMD.

They need to get their "rumors" in order.
 
since the next gen of vid consoles seems so tied to AMD what happens once AMD collapses ans goes down the drain ?. they do seem to be implodining fast.
 
My first question is...

Does it still have a Power Supply the size of a small Toaster?
 
ClearM4 said:
You realize the current systems use 512MB of ram shared between both system and video card. 8GB is more then enough.
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Especially at 1080p. Though with UHD ( 16x 1080p) coming around (not sure if they'll support that, though it might be what the consoles are waiting for...) it might not be. :D
 
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