The Best Mice Thread (ongoing)

I have the CM Storm Spawn, Xornet, and Sentinel Advance II. Also the Razer Mamba (original verson) and Lachesis. Also the Logitech MX Revolution and MX512. Others I'm sure I've forgotten. I can post a lot of mice on a pad, too. Doesn't make your statement any more true.
 
I'd say a 5600 DPI mouse is good, it's wicked fast if you are a speedy person. The G9X is good enough in it's price range unlike the overpriced razer products that isn't as reliable but they have lots of customization going on lol, all those side buttons e.t.c
 
Dunan said:
I've owned a lot of gaming mice but none come close to the tracking of the Ikari laser. I have not tried the sensei and tried the xai for a short while but returned it because the last of a double click option in the software to make the middle button double click. But the Ikari is so good at tracking, it's like an extension of my hand and I can put the cursor where I want it with no effort or overshooting.

The main problem with the Ikari is the build, it's horrible, and the mouse doesn't last long at all for being so expensive.

The razer mamba has tracking issues, too much acceleration, I end up overshooting where I want to click all the time. Very annoying but the wireless capabilities are great.

The death adder would come in a close second to the Ikari in tracking as would the Logitech G700, both are great mice. These 2 are my favorite 'second' mice, great tracking and reliable, but I'm at the point to where I'm wearing out the G700 now. Great wireless also, but the batteries don't last very long and it's a pain to constantly change them out.
The G9 I hated, I thought the tracking was horrible, way to many straight lines it made, difficult to put the cursor where you want it.

Razer Lachesis wasn't bad, but made strictly for claw gamers but when I tried to make the middle button a double click it would ALWAYS triple click. Not good for desktop use at all.

Logitech mx518 - great mouse but the buttons wore out fast in it.


So before I have to start a thread, does anyone know of a mouse that has the same tracking capabilities of the Ikari laser that they could recommend? Shape or size is jot an issue, if it has killer tracking, my hand will get used to it. It just can't be the Ikari because or gone through 2 of them already without putting that many miles at all on them. They simply do not last and are not well built, which is sad because the tracking is pinpoint SUPERB on that mouse.
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funny thing is my mx518 buttons work great, the scroll wheel on the other hand tends to get stuck to the plastic support uprights (i have taken it apart and cleaned it many times) which makes it hard to scroll fire in DOD:S :-P also it sometimes has a bad usb cable which causes it to drop/reconnect which can really suck while gaming :-/
 
I was using a Logitech G9x and Razor DeathAdder 3500 dpi, and made the switch to the Corsair M60.

The Corsair is sooo much better then those. :)

The G9x was a pain to use for me. I had cramps in the wrist and palm sweating non-stop. The DeathAdder was good, better then the G9x, but the Corsair is just feels better for me and my hand. :)
 
I had the Death Adder for a week before exchanging it for the Imperator 2012. It's basically the same mouse but has a higer max DPI of 5600 - not a biggie for me.

The reason I prefer it over the DA is that the right side of the mouse has a little ridge or bump that helps to hold it better when I'm picking it up to reposition it. With the DA, my grip felt loose and tended to slip causing me to regrip the mouse... and i find that highly annoying when playing games. Plus, I like the glow of the wheel on the Imperator over the DA.
 
After going back and forth between the Sentinel Advance 2, EC2 Evo and the Naos 5000, I ended up going with the Mionix. I was originally going to save the $30 and grab the 3200 but decided I wanted the option to add/remove weight, side DPI indicators and higher DPI for in-game vehicle use. My only concern with the Naos is the lack of updates that Mionix has provided for the mouse, that seems to be the only major gripe from existing users.

I was also thinking about going back to an ambidextrous design and wait for the Taipan, but I'm tired of getting burned by Razer and the whole dual optical/laser sensor sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

In the end I went with the Naos 5000 for comfort, I'm tired of my pinky going numb (pad drag) during long gaming sessions.
 
So what is basically the best/most accurate sensor on a mouse? I need to get that mouse - as long as its not an Ikari laser and has adjustable DPI lol

Maybe the xai or sensei? But the xai is practically impossible to find right now :(

How's the tracking on that mouse with the ceramic feet? I guess The Slider X 600?
 
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mtbush said:
After going back and forth between the Sentinel Advance 2, EC2 Evo and the Naos 5000, I ended up going with the Mionix. I was originally going to save the $30 and grab the 3200 but decided I wanted the option to add/remove weight, side DPI indicators and higher DPI for in-game vehicle use. My only concern with the Naos is the lack of updates that Mionix has provided for the mouse, that seems to be the only major gripe from existing users.

I was also thinking about going back to an ambidextrous design and wait for the Taipan, but I'm tired of getting burned by Razer and the whole dual optical/laser sensor sounds like an accident waiting to happen.

In the end I went with the Naos 5000 for comfort, I'm tired of my pinky going numb (pad drag) during long gaming sessions.
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I hear the drivers on that mouse is baddd.
 
NeoDiNardo said:
I hear the drivers on that mouse is baddd.
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echo back much?

I think I've already pointed out that the software/drivers were a concern going in. That's the beauty of Amazon and Prime though, free 2 day shipping and no cost for returns if it doesn't end up working out on my end...

If it doesn't I'll probably just end up going with the Sentinel Advance 2. I'll have the mouse tomorrow so we shall see.
 
Dear finger tip style gamers, the best finger tip mouse I am currently aware of is the Razer Abyssus.
 
My overview is as follows...

1. Best "FPS/General Use/ < 10 button mouse" - Steelseries Sensei (Standard or MLG version) . With a great engine behind it, as well as tons of options, the Sensei is one of the best mice I've found. What's even better is that you can actually configure it entirely with the tiny little LCD on the bottom of the mouse and no driver programs are necessary. However, it is SteelSeries Engine software compliant, with tons of configuration possible there. You can even control such things as a DPI of over 10,0000 if you wish, lift parameters, movement smoothing/correction and much more. Macros are no problem. The hardware feels solid yet light and the glowing logo and scroll wheel with user defined colors is a nice touch. Buttons are responsive and the scroll wheel is excellent (unless you prefer the Logitech "flying" type" only). It is a longer mouse than many, but light, so perfect for many grip styles. There are 3 versions of the mouse; the "RAW" version is lower end but still way above most mice, with lesser customizations and whatnot. The "standard" version has all the features listed here, and the "MLG" version upgrades the standard with tournament-grade button switches and an even more powerful sensor (capable over over 16,000 DPI, when supported by the onboard processor). If you want the best and are just buying new, grab the MLG edition, but if you already have the standard it may not be worth the upgrade. The Sensei family isn't horribly expensive, with the standard and MLG models around $60-90 depending where you get them from. Unless you're dead set on wireless, this has been the best "standard" mouse I've found to date.

Honorable Mentions: Cyborg RAT7, Logitech G9x, Logitech G500, and more

2. Best "MMO/TonsOfButtons 10+" Mouse - Corsair M90 (though possibly Logitech G600). I've used the majority of the MMO-type multibutton mice, and through all of them I've found the Corsair M90 to be the best overall. It has a great handfeel and some weight to it with solid metal underchassis construction, great scroll wheel, and designs its multiple buttons to be really easy to identify by feel and easy to press, unlike so many others in this field. It uses the same sensor as many other high end mice (5700 DPI max) and responds with great performance. You can save If it has a weakness, I'd give it to its software, which lacks some of the more intricate features and ease of use (ie. You have to set a macro to a button, not just a button press. You can't have Button 12 just press J or 4, you have to set up a little macro to do so in the software, but this is a minor complaint if anything), but Corsair is working on improving it. There are plenty of settings to customize to your liking and the "hardware playback" mode provides a passthrough to easy allow games to setup their own macros and keybinds without any problems. I am intrigued enough by Logitech's G600 (it is supported by Logitech's excellent latest generation gaming software, reportedly) that I'll probably grab one to compare against the M90, but compared to others I've tried it stands above the rest, especially in hardware quality and feel

Honorable Mentions - Cyborg MMO7, Logitech G700, SteelSeries World of Warcraft Mice Series (Cataclysm, Legendary. Have not tried the new Wireless version, but interested in doing so if the software has been updated to work better with non-WoW games).

Stay away from: Razer. Though they've had a few successes (Orochi, for instance), I've found many of their products to be very expensive with poor software and don't stack up to competitors.

Mousepad of preference: SteelSeries SX . Black anodized aluminum, this mousepad has a feel unlike just about everything else on the market. Light, cool, and slick for great glide, its only downside is its cost and availability. However, considering that many other gaming companies offer mousepads that cost nearly $50 and aren't nearly the quality of the SX, if you're going high end its a good buy. The only downside I've found to all high end gaming mousepads is that few if any provide a similarly highend wristwrest. Same with keyboards. I'm using a beaded ergonomic hand cushion for now, but I'm considering launching my own line of gaming-focused keyboard and mouse wrist/palmheel cushions...stay tuned...
 
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Hmmm seeing as the only mouse that has the same sensor as the Ikari is the nova slider (unavailable anywhere), I'm wondering which has the more accurate sensor, the DA 3G original or the DA 3.5? I have the DA 3G original from when it first came out :D
 
I use a MSI StarMouse GS-502 that came with my gaming laptop, best mouse ever. It's big, the ergonomic design is great, and the buttons are very responsive.
 
Especially the link to which mice have the different sensors in them, which ones to avoid, etc.
 
Circumnavigate said:
Dear finger tip style gamers, the best finger tip mouse I am currently aware of is the Razer Abyssus.
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Have you tried the Razer Orochi? I own both the Abyssus and the Orochi, and used both extensively, and the Orochi is smaller and much more responsive to fingertip movements.
 
Dunan said:
Hmmm seeing as the only mouse that has the same sensor as the Ikari is the nova slider (unavailable anywhere), I'm wondering which has the more accurate sensor, the DA 3G original or the DA 3.5? I have the DA 3G original from when it first came out :D
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3>3.5
 
There is no best. I don't believe it has been built yet. If it existed, it would corner the market and demand a price of $200, because it would be just that good.

I have every great mouse that exists. I love the Sharkoon Fireglider the most as my everyday desktop mouse.

I took a new job in January. I am an Electrical Engineer, International Field Services. I spend 90% of my time somewhere other than the US. I spent 4 months in China, 1 month in Japan, and now I am in Germany. I have taken my mouse collecting obsession with me and collected some slick mice from these places. My current favorite portable mouse is the Elecom Obsidian from Japan.

http://www2.elecom.co.jp/peripheral/mouse/m-ge3dl/index.asp

I also picked up an Elecom "Scope Node". The thumb placement of the sensor on this style mouse has always interested me. It is more precise than the usual palm placement that most mice use. Because of this, I can say the "best mouse" would need to have this feature. Yet, this does not exist. http://www2.elecom.co.jp/peripheral/mouse/index.asp

So the quest continues, but I can honestly say; there is not one single mouse that combines all of the features I love. There are some that come close, like the Sidewinder mx8, or the Logitech G700, but not one that has everything.
 
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I think I'm set. I have the G600 coming at the end of the month, My Steelseries Diablo 3 mousepad sitting on my desk, and two Ninja Filco keyboards (black in color): The full sized Blue switch with numberpad for typing, and the TenKeyLess Red switch for gaming. I figure the G600 might hold my hand like the Naos 5000 with that middle finger button, or at least better cradle my hand better than most, still have good drivers and Logitech build quality, not have those thin side bottons the G500/G700 seems to prefer, not have a paint job that rubs off like the G500, still have a more palmable shape vs the G9X, and extra buttons since I don't have gamer friendly extra buttons in my keyboard in any way. I don't really use the hyper scroll wheel anyway. I hope the G600 is the one!!! It may have a lot of buttons to fumble, but but at least they are chunky and in indented patterns. I think it will work nice. We will see.
 
mtbush said:
echo back much?

I think I've already pointed out that the software/drivers were a concern going in. That's the beauty of Amazon and Prime though, free 2 day shipping and no cost for returns if it doesn't end up working out on my end...

If it doesn't I'll probably just end up going with the Sentinel Advance 2. I'll have the mouse tomorrow so we shall see.
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I skimmed fast, must of missed it. In any case no harm in mentioning it again.
 
I've really enjoyed my Razer naga in all gaming. Very nice to have full control over movement.
 
I have both the Razor Death Adder and the Logitech G9x on my desk right now and both are excellent mice, swap them out deppending on the application / game etc. Lately have been gravitating to the Death Adder as it is the most comfortable mouse I have ever used.
 
I used the Logitech G500 for a few rounds of BF3.

The mouse is very close to perfect. The weight and DPI adjustment are great. The mouse feels comfortable for me especially since I used the G5 for years.

However, the deal breaker is the mushy scroll wheel. The G5 has a snappy feel for each notch when spinning the scroll wheel. I love this tactile feedback. The G500 is a step backward.

Ultimately, I will be returning the mouse and pinning my hopes on the Corsair M60. The M60 reports indicate a snappy scroll wheel, weight and DPI adjustments, and it has the nice luxury feel of an aluminium body.
 
Deads0uls said:
I used the Logitech G500 for a few rounds of BF3.

The mouse is very close to perfect. The weight and DPI adjustment are great. The mouse feels comfortable for me especially since I used the G5 for years.

However, the deal breaker is the mushy scroll wheel. The G5 has a snappy feel for each notch when spinning the scroll wheel. I love this tactile feedback. The G500 is a step backward.

Ultimately, I will be returning the mouse and pinning my hopes on the Corsair M60. The M60 reports indicate a snappy scroll wheel, weight and DPI adjustments, and it has the nice luxury feel of an aluminium body.
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There is a button on top of the G500 that changes between a mushy feel and snappy feel just FYI.
 
AliceCooper said:
I would stay away from the G400. A few friends of mine and myself have all had problems with it after a few months of use. I have had it for maybe 6 months and it freezes all the time now, same with all my friends. I have seen this issue become a lot more common now as new reviews pop up from long term owners. I ordered a Mionix Naos 3200, it will get here Monday, I hope it works out great, has great reviews.
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The Naos 3200 continues to be my favorite mouse. Its shape is very similar to the Ikari, I like the finish Mionix used though.
 
I just got the Corsair M60 and so far I can say the build quality on it is awesome! Has a slightly rough texture on the sides which help with grip,smooth top,adjustable dpi on the fly.So far i'm pretty impressed,just need to get used to it since i'm coming from a low dpi non adjustable budget logitech mouse.
 
1-anh said:
There is a button on top of the G500 that changes between a mushy feel and snappy feel just FYI.
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Yea, i know. I have the button engaged so that the wheel will click, but it's the click that is mushy and soft.
 
BusyBeaverHP said:
Have you tried the Razer Orochi? I own both the Abyssus and the Orochi, and used both extensively, and the Orochi is smaller and much more responsive to fingertip movements.
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I haven't tried it out but I will keep it in mind! I don't like wireless mouse usually they weigh too much. I see this mouse can do both but I wonder about the weight!
 
My vote goes to the Steelseries Sensei. I absolutely love this mouse. I have had the Logitech G5, G9, and Gigabyte Ghost gm-m8000x, but the Sensei is the best of them all.
 
NukeDukem said:
My vote goes to the Steelseries Sensei. I absolutely love this mouse. I have had the Logitech G5, G9, and Gigabyte Ghost gm-m8000x, but the Sensei is the best of them all.
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Will this mouse work for finger tip or is it mainly palm grip?
 
silent-circuit said:
Based on shape I'd say palm only... but I don't know what you mean by fingertip grip, really.
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What I mean is would this mouse be suitable for fingertip grip users. Judging by the shape and size of it, I'm guessing it's not really meant for fingertip grip users.
 
For general use, I really like my HP BlueTooth wireless mouse. It's comfortable, precise, and last for at least a month on rechargeable AA batteries, under heavy use. Above all, going to a wireless mouse was a bigger benefit than I had first realized--just not having that "tail" to drag around and get tangled on this is a huge plus! :)
 
So my G600 came in today.

unpluged impressions... the mouse feels good, nice palm grip feel. the buttons all feel good, the third mouse button, the side buttons. Even if you don't go all MMO crazy, for any game, the three mouse buttons and the top two side buttons feel easy to reach and use. the center wheel has a nice notched feel (don't think I will ever really miss free wheel mode, I liked playing with it more than using it), so even with just basics it feels like a good FPS mouse. The middle finger buttons does feel weird to use, but that is only because that finger is weaker than the others or not as used to that movement, but it does not get in the way and it is well placed, so it will come in handy I'm sure. The build quality is perfect. Met all my hopes so far. As long as the sensor performs ok, I don't see a need for another mouse. Looks nice in person, slick, the finish is nice, a bit of rubber on the right side too, I can't complain. I hated the G500 with that easy to wear off splatter paint job, this is much better. the cord is nice, the mouse feet are slick enough for the job, yeah, nice all around. I seem to like the shap more than most, if not the best. Perhaps the G500 is ever so slightly better to hold, but the buttons are better on this G600, I would never choose the G500 side buttons over the G600s, even if I only use two of em like, those squareish buttons on the G600 just feel better than the sliver buttons on the G500. Feels more like a G500 than say a deathadder in main mouse buttons shape and click, and that is a good thing.
 
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addictedto60fps said:
Can anyone recommend a good claw/fingertip mouse? I've yet to find one. I've tried the following mice and haven't been completely satisfied with any of them, for one reason or another:

CM Storm Spawn - the groove for ring finger annoys me and makes the mouse too wide. Best sensor I've ever used, though.

CM Storm Inferno - too bulky. sensor does not work well on cloth pads.

G300 - The contoured grooves on both left/right side of mouse - I prefer no contours or very little. This is a bit too extreme for me.

G400 - too bulky and not entirely comfortable.

G9x - too small. grips are useless. not comfortable.

A4-Tech F3 - nothing special.
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Finger tip grip here: I've gone through the Razer Naga, gx9, and the Sensei in the last month or so.

This may be coming out of left field, but I feel the best mouse ever created for fingertip/claw was the Microsoft Intellimouse Optical. It's unbelievably light, comfortable, and with some regedits you can get this thing fast. The entire SteelSeries line of mice is hugely inspired by this mouse. In fact, they did an homage to the product by releasing a modded version some time back. I got the Sensei thinking it could replace this mouse, but it's too heavy, and the button placement is off for finger tip. Another thing that made the intellimouse so great was the button placement. Pressing the buttons is more like a 'squeeze' and doesn't require adjusting your hand. As far as I can tell, the Steel Series XANA is the closest clone to the mouse there is - so I'll have to pick it up [edit:actually not so..]... In the mean time.. back to the classic for me.
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probably going to braid that cable black..

Grab one cheap on ebay and see what you think - I think you will be pleasantly surprised .
 
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whitek said:
Grab one cheap on ebay and see what you think - I think you will be pleasantly surprised .
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I have one here already. Hella reliable mouse. I have one that is at least 10 years old. But I do not like the forward button's placement. I MUCH prefer thumb buttons. For me to click that button I have to throw my entire hand off of where it needs to be. To each his own.

Speaking of having differing opinions, I do not share one with most of the forum. Many, many people love the G500. I definitely do not. The side buttons have little tactile feedback when clicked, they are grouped too closely together, and they are too far back. I also do not like the texture on the sides. Much prefer the texturing Logitech uses on the M500.

I'll put this to the hive mind:
1) palm grip
2) at least 3 thumb buttons, preferably 4
3) MUST be right handed mouse.
4) on the fly DPI adjustment
5) Wireless preferred, not demanded
6) Price is flexible. I doubt I'm going to break the ~$80-90, because at that point I'll just pick up the G700.

Anyone have anything for me.
 
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