Bullied Bus Monitor Gets Last Laugh

Taco said:
I don't understand why people are giving her money.
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What should they give her? "Sorry the kids were like that?", she's probably got thousands of those already. I'm sure money is an alot more effective way of making her happy. She can now retire and never have to deal with kids like that again.
 
Kids aren't taught to respect anything. It has nothing to do with beating or spanking your kids.

One of the easiest ways to teach respect is to immediately "discipline" your child when he/she disrespected an adult. Although some might not agree with spanking, it is the most effective way I have found to say to a small child "I will not accept this behavior from you" ...

Of course, you have to keep a cool head while doing it. Spanking isn't about raging out on your kids, it's about correcting behavior. If you are noticeably angry when you spank your kids, the kids will probably grow up to assume it's ok to physically hurt somebody when they are angry.

If you have a different way to teach kids respect, that's great. I just find it interesting that the kids running around screaming, breaking things, and not listening to a single command given by their parents always seem to have these parents that say "I would never lay a hand on my child" ...

If you loved your child, you would... or you would do something to teach the kid boundaries. These kids obviously have parents that do not love them. That sick feeling that I got 1/3 of the way through the video should be the same feeling these and any other kids have when witnessing or taking part in this kind of behavior.
 
Teenk9 said:
Apparently one of the kids have received well over a 1,000 threatening text messages and is now fearing for himself. Not so tough now when he's on the receiving end isn't he.
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tru.

Never start something you can't finish. :D
 
PornoSatan said:
What should they give her? "Sorry the kids were like that?", she's probably got thousands of those already. I'm sure money is an alot more effective way of making her happy. She can now retire and never have to deal with kids like that again.
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LeninGHOLA said:
I think they just want her to have a nice time.
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So I guess money can buy happiness.

It remains to be seen if she collects on it and chooses to accept it all or just takes some and "donates" the rest. I wouldn't be surprised if she does the talk show circuit as well from GMA to Leno.
 
I personally think those kids should be executed.

When they made laws that send parents to jail for disciplining their kids with corporal punishment, that's when society went down the slope to hell.

What's more is if a teacher tells their parent that their kid is bad and whatnot, the parents complain to the principal who then fires the teacher for telling the parents that their kid is not the unique snowflake that our "give everyone a gold star, everyone is equal!!" society tries to impose the mindset of.

Blame the liberals for that, conservatives support there being consequences for your actions. Liberals decry punishment as draconian and antiquated.

Back in our parents' day and our parents parents day, this shit didn't happen, and our parents turned out just fine.
 
I watched the video and I don't know what is worse, the horrid bullying of an essentially defenseless old lady or the sheer, mind numbing stupidity of the comments. Not only are these kids horrible little brats who deserve to be punched repeatedly in the face but they are inexcusably stupid. Learn some wit you prepubescent failures.
 
manocheese said:
Idiots. Violent parents raise children who are quiet at home and violent to other kids and then become violent adults, good parents raise good children who become good adults, any idiot can raise a kid to be nasty with or without violence and beating them for it is the stupidest response. They are children, they act how they are taught to act and beating them reinforces that behaviour. This idea that society was somehow better when people could beat children is complete myth.

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2002/06/spanking.aspx

There are many more studies that show the same results.
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Yes, kids act how they are taught; if you beat them as kids (when appropriate), they'll beat their kids (when appropriate).

Corporal punishment teaches kids about boundaries. Refusing to punish your kids corporeally sends kids the wrong message - that the world will be as kind to them.

I'd rather have kids learning that yes, people will inflict violence on you if you don't watch your step under parental supervision than in a back alley somewhere.

I got my share of spankings as a kid, and I did not wind up violent.

This is life, writ small to me. If you take violence off the table and the world knows it, the world will use that to screw you over. Pacifists are doormats.
 
XamediX said:
True that. The only people that tell you money doesn't buy happiness are the ones that don't have enough to test that theory.
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Well based on common sense it has to be true... but I think only to a degree. It's more about whether or not you're willing to use that money to change your lifestyle, if 20 million is enough to buy everything you ever wanted, what else are you going to do? Get greedy and buy more stuff you didn't think of? I mean even Warren Buffett still shits in a toilet, gets the flu, and eats fast food, he just doesn't have to worry about the bills.
 
Nside said:
Kids aren't taught to respect anything. It has nothing to do with beating or spanking your kids.

One of the easiest ways to teach respect is to immediately "discipline" your child when he/she disrespected an adult. Although some might not agree with spanking, it is the most effective way I have found to say to a small child "I will not accept this behavior from you" ...

Of course, you have to keep a cool head while doing it. Spanking isn't about raging out on your kids, it's about correcting behavior. If you are noticeably angry when you spank your kids, the kids will probably grow up to assume it's ok to physically hurt somebody when they are angry.

If you have a different way to teach kids respect, that's great. I just find it interesting that the kids running around screaming, breaking things, and not listening to a single command given by their parents always seem to have these parents that say "I would never lay a hand on my child" ...

If you loved your child, you would... or you would do something to teach the kid boundaries. These kids obviously have parents that do not love them. That sick feeling that I got 1/3 of the way through the video should be the same feeling these and any other kids have when witnessing or taking part in this kind of behavior.
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This all squares very much with my experience (no kids, but plenty of friends and close family who do). The absolute worst kids I know have "Laissez-faire" parents who refuse to discipline their kids. The kids are on a collision course with reality because their parents won't set boundaries, so they'll have to learn them the hard way. I don't see how parents can really set boundaries without having the rod represented in some form or fashion at the end of the line.

This is how society works. Ultimately, anti-social behavior gets your skull cracked.
 
beowulf7 said:
So I guess money can buy happiness.

It remains to be seen if she collects on it and chooses to accept it all or just takes some and "donates" the rest. I wouldn't be surprised if she does the talk show circuit as well from GMA to Leno.
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Okay, what do Intel's graphics cards have to do with talk shows?
 
manocheese said:
Idiots. Violent parents raise children who are quiet at home and violent to other kids and then become violent adults, good parents raise good children who become good adults, any idiot can raise a kid to be nasty with or without violence and beating them for it is the stupidest response. They are children, they act how they are taught to act and beating them reinforces that behaviour. This idea that society was somehow better when people could beat children is complete myth.

http://www.apa.org/news/press/releases/2002/06/spanking.aspx

Not sure if trolling, or serious....

Especially when you use an article where the person who conducted the study claims that the findings are NOT to be taken as evidence to suggest that there is any truth to the ideas you are proposing.

The problem I have with these alleged studies and the people who want to quote them is this one thing, that my psych teacher taught me, and I will hopefully always remember:
CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSALITY, under any circumstances.
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Taco said:
I don't understand why people are giving her money.
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Empathy. A lot of people have been in her shoes. It's really the only kind of compensation that can work at this scale. I say good for her. She certainly wasn't paid enough to deal with that shit.

And LOL at some of the redneck comments in this thread concerning corporeal punishment. Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with parents using it if they are themselves under control. But good parenting is good parenting and bad is bad regardless of the methods used. There are great kids who have never been touched and there are little hellraisers who get hit by their parents daily. The people in here acting like society is crumbling because kids aren't beat need to get in touch with reality.

The real problems are a) absent parents and b) parents giving into their kids too quickly because it's easier than... well, being a parent. Fixing those things certainly does not require the belt. You can use it if you want, but don't go around acting like you're the worlds greatest dad because you hit your kids.
 
Zarathustra[H];1038862958 said:
I mostly agree with you, but I don't hear too many advocating "hands off" parenting (unless you mean literally, as in not hitting them.) What I mostly hear is a reliance on non-violent punishment. Grounding, taking away favorite toys/clothes/priveleges, etc.

If anyone is advocating hands off parenting, then quite frankly they are complete and total morons.

In my view, as I said before, the best approach is one that is quick to discipline, but does so purposefully and explains why it happens, and only uses corporeal punishment as a last resort.



I also agree with proper and appropriate reinforcement.

Too much has been made of "self esteem" as of late. I've seen parents bring flowers to school concerts and throw them on stage to their kid, and everyone gets a trophy.

A system where self esteem is the biggest priority invariably results in a generation of assholes.

I really enjoyed the commencement speaker at Wellesley High School (since the speech has been come to be known as the "You're not Special" speech and it is awesome)
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By hands-off parenting I meant not physically punishing kids. I can see where I wasn't very specific. There is a place for spanking and hand slapping and whatever else age specific, situation specific physical punishment there is. I remember my sister and I were screwing off in a store with my mother and she got fed up and smacked our heads together. Didn't cause us any damage or anything but you can sure as hell bet we behaved ourselves the rest of the time. I could almost guarentee that if you did that today in public you'd have someone giving you a hardtime about it.

Though I think part of the negative stigma associated with physical punishment is the 1%'ers. These are the people that beat their kids with a belt for not playing catch as instructed or people taking a punishment too far. It's these 1%'ers that ruin it for the rest of us who are able to more accurately judge where the line is between acceptable punishment and abuse.

Of course, there's the other side of the coin with the other kind of 1%'ers who are hypersensitive to this form of punishment and stick their heads in shit that they have no reason to do. Combine these two types of groups and you end up with the kind of shit the rest of us have to deal with nowadays.
 
I would let a bunch a kids punch me in the balls for half a million dollars
 
What I don't understand is why the bus driver did not do anything about it. The kids appeared to be fairly obvious. I would not have tolerated it.
 
What I don't understand is why the bus driver did not do anything about it. The kids appeared to be fairly obvious. I would not have tolerated it.
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I wondered about that myself. These days no body want to get involved. The no dick bus driver probably figured the kids would kick his ass or was worried he'd get sued by the parents if he did anything about it.
 
Fail said:
Blame the liberals for that, conservatives support there being consequences for your actions. Liberals decry punishment as draconian and antiquated.

Back in our parents' day and our parents parents day, this shit didn't happen, and our parents turned out just fine.
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Except they didn't turn out fine, many people in the baby boomer generation is busy fucking over everyone they can with their "got mine, screw you" mentality. And they were more likely to be violent criminals in their youth compared to the younger generations. The crime rate is lower now then it has been in the past 40 years: http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm
 
blinx said:
I watched an interview with that lady in it... she did seem kinda weird. Now she's loaded and weird
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There's nothing wrong with being weird. There's everything wrong with mean little brats being allowed to bully people and get away with it. Little punks like that need to have respect beaten into them. That's how it was done in the old days. Kids feared and respected adults because they knew the consequences. Now discipline is called "child abuse" and the this is the result: Spoiled little punk ass bitches that respect nobody.
 
Phoenix333 said:
There's nothing wrong with being weird. There's everything wrong with mean little brats being allowed to bully people and get away with it. Little punks like that need to have respect beaten into them. That's how it was done in the old days. Kids feared and respected adults because they knew the consequences. Now discipline is called "child abuse" and the this is the result: Spoiled little punk ass bitches that respect nobody.
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You also must see it vise versa either, I'm 21 and I'm day to day fighting with age disrespect from adults and I fucking hate it, and In the most situations I'm forced to take them down. Most older people just think they are more when they are older, till I come and vastly outperform them and prove them they suck at what they trying to justify me as bad.

I'm otherwise strictly against any bullying, abuse and such a things, and I hate what the kids did.

On other hand, can someone tell me what bus monitor does? I never heard that term before this.
 
If I would have done that as a kid I would be typing this from a wheelchair after my parents were done with me. Wow kids these days.
 
Missing...and very silent in all of this are the parents. Sad isn't it? Not one has come out and done the right thing, which is to make their kid apologize (in public) to that monitor. The actions of the parents speak volumes as to why the children behave the way they do. Scary to think these are the future leaders.
 
Acer_Sheep said:
You also must see it vise versa either, I'm 21 and I'm day to day fighting with age disrespect from adults and I fucking hate it, and In the most situations I'm forced to take them down. Most older people just think they are more when they are older, till I come and vastly outperform them and prove them they suck at what they trying to justify me as bad.
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There's another side to that coin. Envision yourself established in whatever you do encountering someone who saunters in without having proved their worth but demands they're given respect. Respect is an earned condition, not an entitlement. I'm not implying you're that person since it's pretty obvious you feel it necessary to rise to the challenge and prove naysayers wrong, but if you're exposed to that sort of thing over and over, you tend to become jaded about someone who's younger even if they aren't that sort of person. That doesn't justify stupid behaviour from either side, but it's one of those people dynamics that is wired into the human state of being. It probsbly won't change.
 
rykker said:
Jeez, it used to be that little pukes would respect and fear their elders or get a swift ruler twack across the backside... thank you bleeding heart social workers and child psychologists... you've turned our youth into a bunch of self-important, entitled brats.
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Too, too, too, too true :(.
 
Acer_Sheep said:
till I come and vastly outperform them and prove them they suck at what they trying to justify me as bad.
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Well if you come in with an attitude that you're better than someone else of course they're going to not like you. That's not age discrimination, it's seeing a cockiness and not liking it. If you are better at something then demonstrate it through your actions, but not with your attitude. Humility and a positive attitude works wonders when combined with ability. You'll make friends with the older people by being invaluable and helpful. If you act like you're superior they'll feel threatened and react accordingly.
 
Fantasyalive said:
Last I heard was the kids apologized.
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I imagine there only sorry they got caught.

Thinking they could post this crap and get away with it is daring
and childish. They only wanted to relive giving out abuse to
helpless women

The father of one of the boys, did not seem very sorry his son was
caught.

Perhapes the parents are as much at fault for raising these little
bastatds with no respect for there elders.

A night or two in juvenile hall would do them good.
 
Steve said:
My thing is this: Yes, I wanted to beat those kids' asses after watching that video. No, That should never happen to anyone, let alone a kindly old grandmother. Yes, it makes me laugh knowing those kids bullying resulted in grandma getting a nice retirement package.


....BUT....

...the main reason I posted this is because NORMALLY, the internet is BLAMED for this kind of stuff. Grandma will be traumatized, has to quit her job, will be ridiculed as the "bullied bus monitor" and so on.

IN THIS CASE, the internet came to the rescue and handed those kids (and parents) the most humbling defeat possible...joy for the victim. :)
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It should never had come the "internet" in the first place.
 
jiminator said:
What I don't understand is why the bus driver did not do anything about it. The kids appeared to be fairly obvious. I would not have tolerated it.
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This women is very hard of hearing apparently. From what i read, she never heard what the kids were saying until the video ended up on the internet. This is probably why the kids were doing it...because they knew she couldn't hear and it was funny to them that they could say such horrible things and get away with it.
 
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