Antec 620w Power Supply $49.99 FS (Shell Shocker)

The email states that there's a $15 MIR on top of that, but it's nowhere to be found.
 
the Neo Eco line and similar ones built by Seasonic are not are compatible with many UPS models. I found out the hard way that under load the pc will just shut off if the power goes out or flickers. and yes I have a proper sine wave compatible UPS than is made more modern power supplies.

xbit even mentioned this in their review. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/psu-600w-850w_5.html#sect0

UPS Compatibility

Like its Seasonic progenitors, the Antec Neo ECO 620C refused to be compatible with my UPS. They were stable at loads up to 370 watts when powered by the mains but couldn’t work even at 280 watts on the UPS batteries.
 
cannondale06 said:
the Neo Eco line and similar ones built by Seasonic are not are compatible with many UPS models.
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That is because the UPS are bad not the PSU. There are good quality Cyberpower APS which are not very expensive but give sine wave output. This is true of active PFC correction PSUs.
 
aviat72 said:
That is because the UPS are bad not the PSU. There are good quality Cyberpower APS which are not very expensive but give sine wave output. This is true of active PFC correction PSUs.
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again my UPS is pure sine wave compatible. xbit was using an APC smart UPS which is also pure sine wave compatible. it is the power supply as they have mentioned its an issue with certain Seasonic built models in other reviews too.
 
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again my UPS is pure sine wave compatible. xbit was using an APC smart UPS which is also pure sine wave compatible. it is the power supply as they have mentioned its an issue with certain Seasonic built models in other reviews too.
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The UPS used in the tests by xbit lab
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/psu-methodology2_8.html#sect0 APC Smart-UPS SC 620VA

http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SC620I&tab=models

is not a true sine wave, it is a stepped sine wave.

A true sine wave UPS will explicitly say so.

http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=SMT750

Note how the output for the second one says "Sine Wave" but for the first one it says "Stepped Approximation to a sinewave".

There are a lot of low cost pure sine wave UPS available now from Cyberpower.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&keywords=pure sine wave UPS&index=blended
 
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well their smart ups line is pure sine wave compatible according to what APC told me.

and for the THIRD time, my Cyberpower UPS is pure sine wave compatible. its the CP1000PFCLCD which is second one right there in your Amazon link . so AGAIN the issue is the power supply NOT my UPS.
 
shut it. its $35 after rebate for a 620watt contentious psu with active pfc + free shipping. It's a pretty smoking deal for a psu thats a lot better than most of the junky psu's out there. This is a quality psu, bottom line.

Nothings perfect in life, ok, we get it. Just admit this is a good deal and leave it at that. In order to do better than this deal, you do realize you are asking people to spend $75 - $100 dollars vs $35. Personally, with this psu and price, I could never do that. So, I am not sure what better solution it is that you have for people.

This is one of the better psu deals to come along this year. 620watts is going to power a 580 / 6970, ssd, 2 or 3 harddrives, dvd burner, 16gigs of ram, several case fans, sound card, etc ... very EASILY.

For $35 dollars, you need to jump the hell all over this deal. Don't think ... ACT. In fact, this psu will be a sell out I can promise you here very shortly. It's all over fat wallet, techbargains, hardocp and other hot deal related web sites.
 
so you tell me to shut it? lol, whats with the attitude? I did not say not to buy it. I was just saying its not compatible with some UPS models that a modern power supply SHOULD be compatible with. to many people that does not matter but to some it might. if I would have known that then I would have bought a different psu since my $130 UPS is useless if the power goes out while I am under load my Antec neo eco. I was only trying to be helpful.
 
First off... Thanks to Teh_ZioN for the post. It's a nice deal on a well made and reputable power supply (evidently SeaSonic made -who I've had great experiences with!) with no BS rebates to deal with.

Secondly, big thanks to cannondale06 for mentioning the potential UPS compatibility issues.

cannondale06 said:
the Neo Eco line and similar ones built by Seasonic are not are compatible with many UPS models. I found out the hard way that under load the pc will just shut off if the power goes out or flickers. and yes I have a proper sine wave compatible UPS than is made more modern power supplies.

xbit even mentioned this in their review. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cases/display/psu-600w-850w_5.html#sect0
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aviat72 said:
That is because the UPS are bad not the PSU.
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Not a safe assumption, nor statement. Both can be good, but therein lies the danger of such a statement. It's simply an incompatibility. ;)

aviat72 said:
...is not a true sine wave, it is a stepped sine wave. <snip>

Note how the output for the second one says "Sine Wave" but for the first one it says "Stepped Approximation to a sinewave".
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Good points that most people either don't think about, or worse, don't know about!

SixFootDuo said:
shut it. its $35 after rebate for a 620watt contentious psu with active pfc + free shipping. It's a pretty smoking deal for a psu thats a lot better than most of the junky psu's out there. This is a quality psu, bottom line.
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I usually appreciate your posts...and demeanor. But telling someone who's providing *useful* information to "shut it" is fucking right out of line.

I don't give a fuck how good a deal is (and this one is decent & fits all of my other criteria -esp. no rebate BS), if it (potentially) doesn't work in your application/configuration, then it's not a deal at all.

cannondale06 said:
...I was just saying its not compatible with some UPS models that a modern power supply SHOULD be compatible with. to many people that does not matter but to some it might. if I would have known that then I would have bought a different psu since my $130 UPS is useless if the power goes out while I am under load my Antec neo eco. I was only trying to be helpful.
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You were. And it's appreciated.

We all have bad days...but damn. Seems most start to lose it around the holidays. :/
Will be glad when they're done (the holidays -not the deals!) :D
 
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and for the THIRD time, my Cyberpower UPS is pure sine wave compatible. its the CP1000PFCLCD which is second one right there in your Amazon link . so AGAIN the issue is the power supply NOT my UPS.
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I am actually kind of doubtful about this being a true sinewave UPS after giving it the once over real quick, and modifying it as compatible is perhaps prudent, for a number of reasons. The unit is very cheap (which is very unusual for this class of product), they don't actually bill it is a true sinewave but rather "adaptive sinewave", the unit is "line interactive", etc. In regards to the topology being "line-interactive", the "GreenPowerUPS Technology" of the CyberPower is perhaps an issue as they state:

The GreenPower UPS&#8482; advanced-circuitry design is both impressive and solid. During normal power mode the GreenPower UPS&#8482; design bypasses the Automatic Voltage Regulation (AVR) and Transformer.
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Assuming I am understanding what they are trying to say correctly, this UPS is not a normal line-interactive unit at all. It is, instead, some sort of hybrid unit (sort of stand-by and sort of line-interactive bastard child) as it is bypassing the transformer and AVR (which usually sites between the input and the transfer switch on line-interactive units and is always "on"). This means, again assuming I am jiving with their marketing, the unit has to switch to the "normal" line interactive path (which has the AVR) from the "GreenPowerUPS Technology" path once there is a power loss and then switch to batteries. If so, this is not normal for a line-interactive unit and perhaps problematic for your situation.

I guess we'll never really know until someone decides to send me one or someone else checks but after looking at this unit for a few minutes I am not entirely certain I believe CyberPower that this UPS is not the issue.
 
the Delta built Antec EA650 did not shut down when power was lost under load but the Neo Eco will. heck the Antec EA650 never shut down under load even when I lost power with a cheap non sine wave UPS. I agree with Xbit that its certainly the Seasonic built Neo Eco that has the issue here. to be clear I am not saying all Seasonics just the ones like the Antec Neo Eco and related models. and the other psus in that xbit test had no issues with the UPS they were using either.
 
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the Delta built Antec EA650 did not shut down when power was lost under load but the Neo Eco will. heck the Antec EA650 never shut down under load even when I lost power with a cheap non sine wave UPS. I agree with Xbit that its certainly the Seasonic built Neo Eco that has the issue here. to be clear I am not saying all Seasonics just the ones like the Antec Neo Eco and related models.
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Oh yeah, I know that a cheap UPS of a non-standard, possibly dodgy, topology could not possibly be your problem. This was just for everyone else's edification.
 
sweet, ordered one for my server. I've been in the market to upgrade from my very old 500w ocz to something newer/more reliable. The 500w one was already overkill now this one is extreme overkill.

c2d e8400
gigabyte p35
MSI HD 4350
dell perc 5/i with 8x2tb raid 5
+3 other HD's, random storage/OS drive
4gb (2x2gb xms2)

I could get by with probably just over half the power this PS provides but at $35 it's less than ones that better fit the bill for this box.


thanks


ps, so what's an inexpensive PSU worth buying for this? I'm kinda worried with the comments in this thread. The PSU I have now is very old and I'm almost certain it isn't one that is true sine or whatever it is. A link to a specific one that you're sure is true sine would be great. You can PM me if even though it is for this PS it would be considered off topic? I'm not sure what the proper etiquette is
 
Daaamn.... it's not modular


I am tempted to pick it up anyways but I really want a modular PSU for my next build, guess i'll keep my eyes open for one of those deals
 
We are talking about $35 dollars here lmao. Go "Hard"OCP or go home. It's that simple. The point I was making is, this really doesn't need much discussion. I didn't want to see people that really needed a good psu to get sidetracked by our resident emo kiddies ( said in a big brother loving way / don't take me too serious ) Yes, we have several. With all due respect, and yes, much respect for the community here. But, please understand, the percentage of people that use battery backups here is extremely small. I didn't want this deal to get side tracked with some random "tech fear mongering" that was injected into the tread with something that, I think we can all honestly agree, at the end of the day, would have absolutely no meaning to 90% of the buyers here.
 
SixFootDuo said:
We are talking about $35 dollars here lmao. Go "Hard"OCP or go home. It's that simple. The point I was making is, this really doesn't need much discussion. I didn't want to see people that really needed a good psu to get sidetracked by our resident emo kiddies ( said in a big brother loving way / don't take me too serious ) Yes, we have several. With all due respect, and yes, much respect for the community here. But, please understand, the percentage of people that use battery backups here is extremely small. I didn't want this deal to get side tracked with some random "tech fear mongering" that was injected into the tread with something that, I think we can all honestly agree, at the end of the day, would have absolutely no meaning to 90% of the buyers here.
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I think people here are smart enough to decide whether UPS compatibility is important to them or not. We don't need your hand holding, kthxbye.
 
You really think everyone owns a battery backup unit here? Cause, that's what we are talking about. Not sure why you would want your hand held. That was weird. But anyways, yeah. You proved my point even further. Thank you. People are going to read your comment and understand exactly what people are up against here. As far the fucking trolling dude, really? The kthksbye shit, take that back to Xbox live. Adults are talking here, don't interrupt.
 
Snagged one this morning and already have a tracking number for it. Thanks Newegg and OP!
 
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