Sony Shows Wearable 3-D Personal Theater

Looks like a tank commanders headset with a racing stripe added. I think the government is spending close to $3000 for theirs.
 
Damn, I would love to try this out and see what they are like. I don't think this would be comfortable after an hour of viewing. Always love the view master back in the 80s.

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Highest resolution I've seen on a pair of goggles like this. Most others are 480p. Would make an amazing headset for R/C FPV flying.

The 3d could be used in FPV R/C cars and whatnot, too. Objects are too far away on planes, but put two cameras mounted sufficiently far apart on the car and the effect would be pretty awesome.
 
Taikero said:
Highest resolution I've seen on a pair of goggles like this. Most others are 480p. Would make an amazing headset for R/C FPV flying.

The 3d could be used in FPV R/C cars and whatnot, too. Objects are too far away on planes, but put two cameras mounted sufficiently far apart on the car and the effect would be pretty awesome.
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One of the many possible applications.
I think everyone is pissing on this because the examples of 3D to this point has been nothing but some kind of 3D "effect". Most a variation on the red/cyan anaglyph 3D effect. True 3D is a display for each eye with a different point of view, just like you see in 3D naturally.
With this you will have a 100% 3D and thus an immersion gaming or movie watching experience.

I just got through watching The Pacific (HBO miniseries). I can only imagine the horrors those men went through and watching a movie or playing a FPS is a pretty poor representation. The idea of this refined 3D tech and real cutting edge FPS games putting you THERE in the battle.
Imagine this tech combined with MS Kinect that tracks your position, head movement, arm movements, etc. You can hold a prop rifle in your hand but in game the rifle image tracks perfectly with your movements. All that is hold this type of gaming experience up is a REAL CONVINCING 3D tech. Thin, light, HD OLED displays will make this possible.
 
*sigh*

It truly is amazing how many times we have seen this kind of crap over the years come and go for the same reasons, yet we still end up with a few convinced it will somehow take off. That said, I find it amusing that the prototype is actually better looking than the market product.

Reasons this will fail, note the "will" not "if".

1) People complain about wearing headphones on their head for extended periods of time. Even the most comfortable fatigue your head/neck/ears after a while. Something that is easily twice the weight if not multiple times heavier is going to fatigue all that much faster, not to mention not allow your skin to breathe and make you uncomfortable. This reason alone nearly kills the concept.
2) Home entertainment is usually about entertaining more than just 1 person. One could argue that this is a good value for a single person, however the moment you add two or more into the mix it becomes prohibitive. Can you imagine a family of 4 attempting to purchase these? Even with significant price reductions they are too much. Families of more than 4 can flat out forget it. Standard screens have the benefit of being available to as many people as you can pack in the room.
3) The Social Factor - This would make for a pretty lousy superbowl party as an example. Every person absorbed into their own little world, no interaction outside their personal entertainment center. This type of thing completely eliminates social interaction. I suppose if you are single and lonely and just don't care it works.

I will actually stop there although I can think of plenty more reasons. Those three factors alone completely kill any viable chance this product has of being anything more than just a niche amusement device. While it is possible that we may all become so self absorbed that something like this takes off, it won't be happening in the lifetime of anyone around here. It is a poor concept and no amount of execution is going to make up for that fact. At its best it will only ever appeal to an extremely small demographic. This in no way, shape or form has any chance of ever becoming mainstream, much less replacing traditional TV.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
*sigh*

It truly is amazing how many times we have seen this kind of crap over the years come and go for the same reasons, yet we still end up with a few convinced it will somehow take off. That said, I find it amusing that the prototype is actually better looking than the market product.

Reasons this will fail, note the "will" not "if".

1) People complain about wearing headphones on their head for extended periods of time. Even the most comfortable fatigue your head/neck/ears after a while. Something that is easily twice the weight if not multiple times heavier is going to fatigue all that much faster, not to mention not allow your skin to breathe and make you uncomfortable. This reason alone nearly kills the concept.
2) Home entertainment is usually about entertaining more than just 1 person. One could argue that this is a good value for a single person, however the moment you add two or more into the mix it becomes prohibitive. Can you imagine a family of 4 attempting to purchase these? Even with significant price reductions they are too much. Families of more than 4 can flat out forget it. Standard screens have the benefit of being available to as many people as you can pack in the room.
3) The Social Factor - This would make for a pretty lousy superbowl party as an example. Every person absorbed into their own little world, no interaction outside their personal entertainment center. This type of thing completely eliminates social interaction. I suppose if you are single and lonely and just don't care it works.

I will actually stop there although I can think of plenty more reasons. Those three factors alone completely kill any viable chance this product has of being anything more than just a niche amusement device. While it is possible that we may all become so self absorbed that something like this takes off, it won't be happening in the lifetime of anyone around here. It is a poor concept and no amount of execution is going to make up for that fact. At its best it will only ever appeal to an extremely small demographic. This in no way, shape or form has any chance of ever becoming mainstream, much less replacing traditional TV.
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I agree with you on one point.
The CURRENT iteration of the technology will NOT be adopted by the masses.
#1 too expensive.
#2 too bulky and uncomfortable
#3 the current mindset concerning 3D technology. Which is like I posted a HACK because it is an effect applied to a 2D image.

But believe me; it is on it's way and it will become the next "have to have" technology once the tipping point is reached.

BUT, the point I am making is that the key technology here is OLED. It is still in it's infancy and it is still an expensive technology. BUT it will REPLACE LCD technology once it matures.
It is still a few years away most likely but it is coming.
An it is likely that tipping point is when the product looks more like THIS
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Than THIS
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Dr. Righteous said:
I agree with you on one point.
The CURRENT iteration of the technology will NOT be adopted by the masses.

But believe me; it is on it's way and it will become the next "have to have" technology once the tipping point is reached.
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Agree 100%, well said.
 
VR/3D helmet, nothing new here. Except for the resolution and size maybe. Things like this are a blast for videogames. 3D without shutter glasses, meaning no flickering and no loss of brightness. Big, bright and clear picture. (provided that the screens in it are good) And most of all, a device like this produces a real 3D visuals without tricks: most likely less eye and brain fatigue unless you have too big stereo separation.

Downsides would be weight, combined with headphones especially. And a thing that only one who can see the picture is you. This device is definetly only for escapism in solitude. I dont understand why some of you are dissing this.
 
MaZa said:
I dont understand why some of you are dissing this.
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Because it isn't ready for practical market use. 5,000 people will buy one, then 5 years later find it in a shoebox in their closet and have a laugh.
 
Dr. Righteous said:
I agree with you on one point.
The CURRENT iteration of the technology will NOT be adopted by the masses.
#1 too expensive.
#2 too bulky and uncomfortable
#3 the current mindset concerning 3D technology. Which is like I posted a HACK because it is an effect applied to a 2D image.

But believe me; it is on it's way and it will become the next "have to have" technology once the tipping point is reached.

BUT, the point I am making is that the key technology here is OLED. It is still in it's infancy and it is still an expensive technology. BUT it will REPLACE LCD technology once it matures.
It is still a few years away most likely but it is coming.
An it is likely that tipping point is when the product looks more like THIS
images


Than THIS
images
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Not arguing against OLED, I agree that will eventually replace LCD. I am arguing form factor.

Head mounted displays concerning home entertainment have no long term prospectus. This world is moving more toward social not away. A device like this is about as anti-social as it gets. Even if the form factor becomes as small and light as a pair of sunglasses, the social ramifications cannot be argued. These will never replace typical form factor TV's in the average home.

Now could they replace a traditional "monitor" in a work/production type setting? I could see the argument for that. I am not disputing there may be an application for head mounted displays (see the military, pilots, police) as just a few quick examples of where something like that would be insanely valuable. My single and only contention is against the notion that this will replace the typical TV or Home entertainment center. In that arena head mounted anything will remain nothing but a niche product.
 
Who cares about the anti-social aspect of this? This is very obviously not marketed towards that segment. The large LCD on the wall with 7.1 speakers are for when company comes over. My 3 lcd monitors hooked up to my computer are for when I want to play video games naked. Just because a consumer product doesn't interest you or doesn't fulfill a need or want for you doesn't mean it isn't a positive addition to the marketplace. Will this flop? I wouldn't be surprised if it does. But saying it's a disaster because not everyone has a need, want or desire for it is ridiculous.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
*sigh*

It truly is amazing how many times we have seen this kind of crap over the years come and go for the same reasons, yet we still end up with a few convinced it will somehow take off. That said, I find it amusing that the prototype is actually better looking than the market product.

Reasons this will fail, note the "will" not "if".

1) People complain about wearing headphones on their head for extended periods of time. Even the most comfortable fatigue your head/neck/ears after a while. Something that is easily twice the weight if not multiple times heavier is going to fatigue all that much faster, not to mention not allow your skin to breathe and make you uncomfortable. This reason alone nearly kills the concept.
2) Home entertainment is usually about entertaining more than just 1 person. One could argue that this is a good value for a single person, however the moment you add two or more into the mix it becomes prohibitive. Can you imagine a family of 4 attempting to purchase these? Even with significant price reductions they are too much. Families of more than 4 can flat out forget it. Standard screens have the benefit of being available to as many people as you can pack in the room.
3) The Social Factor - This would make for a pretty lousy superbowl party as an example. Every person absorbed into their own little world, no interaction outside their personal entertainment center. This type of thing completely eliminates social interaction. I suppose if you are single and lonely and just don't care it works.

I will actually stop there although I can think of plenty more reasons. Those three factors alone completely kill any viable chance this product has of being anything more than just a niche amusement device. While it is possible that we may all become so self absorbed that something like this takes off, it won't be happening in the lifetime of anyone around here. It is a poor concept and no amount of execution is going to make up for that fact. At its best it will only ever appeal to an extremely small demographic. This in no way, shape or form has any chance of ever becoming mainstream, much less replacing traditional TV.
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Can't stand people bitching and complaining. Ever heard of technology evolving? At least this will get out and let people see what it's like and many feedback will greatly help in modifying a better way of creating something better than this version.
 
people will bitch about anything. I came to this site way back when because it was a way to learn about overclocking and tweaking quake 2 for the best performance. All the while I could hear about the latest gadgets and many other computer related things that I didn't have a great understanding of.

Now a good percentage of its user base are complainers who talk shit about anything that doesn't fit their particular life choice, grow up and appreciate new technology, or go elseware and read about topics within your comfort zone.
 
EXACTLY like I said.
Here is a NEW PRODUCT I had no idea existed until I saw this on Toms this morning.
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This is exactly what I was talking about to a tee.
Still early. Expect these products to progressively get better and cheaper as more players get in the VR glasses game.
Expect higher resolution
Expect wider field of view
Expect much cheaper prices
Expect wide adaptation as the prices fall


SPECS:

The Wrap 1200VR – the ultimate in virtual reality eyewear.

75-inch virtual screen as viewed from ten feet (approximately 3 m)
16:9 widescreen aspect ratio
Twin high-resolution 852 x 480 LCD displays
Supports display resolutions of:
640 x 480 (VGA)
800 x 600 (SVGA)
1024 x 768 (XGA)
1280 x 720 (720p)
60Hz progressive scan update rate
35-degree diagonal field of view
24-bit true color (16 million colors)
Weighs approximately three ounces
Independent left and right eye focal adjustment
Supports side-by-side 3D video for PC gaming
Connects to PC VGA or DVI port & USB2.0 ports
Head tracker with drift compensation
VR Manager software (digital download)

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Vuzix-1200VR-3D-Wrap-Tracker-6TC-Call-of-Duty,news-12589.html



http://www.vuzix.com/consumer/products_wrap_1200vr.html
 
Speaking of Sony and 3D, just got a PSN newsletter in email yesterday about a new 3D monitor that also lets you play two screens that appears independent by having you and your opponent wear 3D glasses. I think it's cool, moving us away from split-screen multiplayer.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/sony-introduces-playstation-branded-3d-monitor-and-3d-glasses/

$499 is a hard pill to swallow for that luxury though. I'll wait for Sony or Xbox to come out with 3D glasses that'll let you play on a normal 3D television.
 
Azhar said:
Speaking of Sony and 3D, just got a PSN newsletter in email yesterday about a new 3D monitor that also lets you play two screens that appears independent by having you and your opponent wear 3D glasses. I think it's cool, moving us away from split-screen multiplayer.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/sony-introduces-playstation-branded-3d-monitor-and-3d-glasses/

$499 is a hard pill to swallow for that luxury though. I'll wait for Sony or Xbox to come out with 3D glasses that'll let you play on a normal 3D television.
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This has NOTHING to do with a 3D monitor. Not talking about shutter glasses. That is NOT what these are. This is the emergence of REAL 3D with 2 miniature high resolution LCD (OLED will eventually dominate these) ; or VR goggles/glasses as they have come to be known.
3D tech other than this is nothing but a HACK. With 3D monitors you are looking at a screen with a single 2D image with a 3D EFFECT added. That is all.
 
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