Researchers Expose Undeletable Cookie Technology

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The founder of KISSmetrics has confirmed what researchers at UC Berkeley reportedly discovered: cookie technology that cannot be deleted or evaded by known means. The discovery has more than just a few internet security analysts concerned.

KISSmetrics is a 17-person start-up founded in 2008 and based in the San Francisco Bay Area. Founder Hitten Shah confirmed that the research was correct, but told Wired.com Friday morning that there was nothing illegal about the techniques it was using.
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If there was justice, the government would be going after them the same way they go after anonymouse or Lulzsec.
 
BladeVenom said:
If there was justice, the government would be going after them the same way they go after anonymouse or Lulzsec.
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There is no such thing as justice in this country. It is all bought and paid for and corporations can do as they please so long as the right pockets are lined. This story will be forgotten in a week.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
There is no such thing as justice in this country. It is all bought and paid for and corporations can do as they please so long as the right pockets are lined. This story will be forgotten in a week.
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considering its about 5 hours old, and there are not flame wars all over the first 3 pages (I know...), the story is already dead :p

Just like when MajorDomo or Steve used to post about SDK updates, nobody responded.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
There is no such thing as justice in this country. It is all bought and paid for and corporations can do as they please so long as the right pockets are lined. This story will be forgotten in a week.
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I'm so damn tired of hearing the whole, "Blame the corporations" bull. It takes two to tango.

Don't blame companies for everything, when the problem is that people are idiots. They vote for the morons (or vote for the morons who appoint other morons) who take bribes. Question any authority, not just the one that CNN shines the light on.


On topic, can someone explain how something is "undeletable"? Obviously, a format or simply removing something is like a landfill where you bury it and add a layer on top; but I know firsthand that the DoD discs that are used for wiping data sensitive drives are supposed to be 100% effective. Obviously, wiping everything out every permacookie isn't convenient, but in that aspect, wouldn't it then be "deletable"?
 
Hosts file...

127.0.0.1 kissmetrics.com
127.0.0.1 trk.kissmetrics.com

So much for not being able to evade 'em... :)
 
considering its about 5 hours old, and there are not flame wars all over the first 3 pages (I know...), the story is already dead

Just like when MajorDomo or Steve used to post about SDK updates, nobody responded.
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Good point!


Headcase said:
I'm so damn tired of hearing the whole, "Blame the corporations" bull. It takes two to tango.

Don't blame companies for everything, when the problem is that people are idiots. They vote for the morons (or vote for the morons who appoint other morons) who take bribes. Question any authority, not just the one that CNN shines the light on.


On topic, can someone explain how something is "undeletable"? Obviously, a format or simply removing something is like a landfill where you bury it and add a layer on top; but I know firsthand that the DoD discs that are used for wiping data sensitive drives are supposed to be 100% effective. Obviously, wiping everything out every permacookie isn't convenient, but in that aspect, wouldn't it then be "deletable"?
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Well that is good, as I wasn't blaming the corporations. I was blaming the government for allowing them to get away with it because they are corrupt.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
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Well that is good, as I wasn't blaming the corporations. I was blaming the government for allowing them to get away with it because they are corrupt.
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Well, to be precise, the government is the entity that gives a corporation its power. Corporations only exist, and wield the powers that they do, because of a number of laws that lay out all of the aspects and abilities and rights of a corporation. And who writes and enforces those laws? The government, of course.

Thus, for government apparatchiks to complain about corporate influence and power is completely disingenuous. Government is one of the few entities in the world that creates a problem and then campaigns to solve that problem.
 
How did this get turned into a rant against the government so fast? I think we may have set a record.
 
http://samy.pl/evercookie/ for an old site of a bunch of methods to try and keep a cookie permanent.


Nothing really here except a new method. I'm sure the main browsers will eventually as they get around to it fix things so this doesn't work anymore.

THIS IS WHY I RUN ALL MY BROWSERS IN INDIVIDUAL SNAPSHOTTED VMs!!!! Kidding, no tin foil hat ;)
 
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