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According to Andy Rubin, there are over 500,000 Android devices activated every day. Seriously? I'm not disputing the numbers but 182.5 million activations a year sure seems like a lot. :eek:

There are now over 500,000 Android devices activated every day, and it's growing at 4.4% w/w
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Zarathustra[H];1037442997 said:
I'm thinking there has to be a typo there somewhere....
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I mean, at that rate you'd add 1 android device per person for the number of people that live in the U.S. in under two years... 1 and 3/4's even...
 
Well, as an extreme example, 500k/day could be a calculated rate based on a very small but high activity time period such as the launch of a new, popular phone. 500k/day is equal to a little less than 21k/hour. Statistics such as these are easily exploitable!
 
The open source movement, has begun. Just as our lord "Linus Torvalds" has foretold.

On a serious note, do you really have to wonder how a free OS is that popular? It's freakin free, and made by Google.
 
I'm guessing that the number just piqued and Google decided to announce it and exploit it a bit. On the other hand this is a number for the whole world, not just the States.
 
Sounds like its about time for Apple to sue all the makers of Android devices because they are stealing Apples market share, cause you know, it belongs to Apple.
 
Wenthral said:
Sounds like its about time for Apple to sue all the makers of Android devices because they are stealing Apples market share, cause you know, it belongs to Apple.
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:cool:

I'm glad you didn't patent this idea of yours. Time to take full advantage. Mwhaha.
 
Ashbringer said:
The open source movement, has begun. Just as our lord "Linus Torvalds" has foretold.

On a serious note, do you really have to wonder how a free OS is that popular? It's freakin free, and made by Google.
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The concept that Android is "free" is very subjective... ;)
 
Are they takinbg into account people moving from one carrier to another? What about devices that are being replaced and/or upgraded?

These numbers have to be skewed. The whole story is NOT being told here.
 
The numbers are likely off but I wouldn't be surprised if they were half that. By "activation", could be people upgrading their old androids. I know people who go through that shit like candy.
 
Zarathustra[H];1037443025 said:
I mean, at that rate you'd add 1 android device per person for the number of people that live in the U.S. in under two years... 1 and 3/4's even...
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Who said this number was devices per day in the USA? I have a feeling these might be worldwide statistics, at which point 182M activations per year vs 6-7 billion people on the planet isn't that great a stretch.
 
Team Obi Juan said:
If Android is 'free', so is iOS. Free with purchase of hardware.
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For cell phone manufacturers it's free. That in turn lowers the cost of smart phones for consumers. Something you can't do with Microsoft Phone 7.

On the other hand, iOS is developed and exclusive to Apple. So they control the cost. On the other hand, none of the iPhone's are as cheap as the Android phones.
 
Must be all those sheep, huh? I mean, that's what everyone said when ios devices were killing everything else. I guess the morons went to android and the smart ones stayed with ios?
 
Wenthral said:
Sounds like its about time for Apple to sue all the makers of Android devices because they are stealing Apples market share, cause you know, it belongs to Apple.
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They are, well the ones that most closely resemble their phones anyway, currently Samsung (that supply the parts for their phones), and a bunch lined up after this one.
 
You can add at least two more activations of an Android phone in July/August, me and the missus are dropping iphone at last (never wanted the damn thing anyway, AT&T didn't have any Androids at the time, and my blackberry was falling apart).
 
From the AppleInsider page:
While Android has grown in market share, Apple's profit share has eclipsed the rest of the mobile industry. In fact, one recent analysis showed that Apple could buy rivals Nokia, Research in Motion, HTC and Motorola Mobility all at once with its estimated $70 billion in cash.
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Translation: I have more money and therefor am still way better than you, no matter what.
 
Zarathustra[H];1037443025 said:
I mean, at that rate you'd add 1 android device per person for the number of people that live in the U.S. in under two years... 1 and 3/4's even...
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I have 4 android devices... it doesn't mean just phones y'know. Hell by saying device you could include refrigerators and TVs/bluray players...
 
ProphetSix said:
Who said this number was devices per day in the USA? I have a feeling these might be worldwide statistics, at which point 182M activations per year vs 6-7 billion people on the planet isn't that great a stretch.
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I do believe that number is for worldwide.

I have no doubt that the number of activations is 500K a day, but I'd like a breakdown of that number.

How do they determine what is considered an activation? Just the first time a SIM or MEID is connected to a carrier network or every time you enter an e-mail address after a factory reset? When I got my Droid many moons ago the first one they activated for me had a bad key on the physical keyboard so I had them swap it immediately before I left the store. Was that two activations or just one? Numbers like that can add up quickly.

How skewed is the 500K number when you take custom ROM's in account? According to the CM team CyanogenMod itself has 400K unique installs in the world. CM 7.1 RC1 was released 2-3 days ago. Let's assume 10K wiped and installed RC1. Do all those new installs count as new activations? I myself have wiped and reloaded my Thunderbolt 3 times this week (Das BAMF Sense 3.0 RC1, RC2, RC3). Are those 3 different activations?
 
My brother and I had an iPhone, that is, up until a couple of days ago. That day two Samsung Droid Charges were activated.

Seriously, I know why people buy Android phones as versus iPhones. It's damn near mind boggling at what you can do on this thing, the level of customization you can do is amazing. The apps, they're great. Why didn't I get an Android years ago!?!?
 
Team Obi Juan said:
If Android is 'free', so is iOS. Free with purchase of hardware.
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Really? you can git clone the iOS source, and compile it yourself to run on any phone you want, or in an emulator / virtual machine to develop and work on it?

Sign me up and point me to the link!
 
Yeah, that # seems way over-inflated, but anyway, within a week or so, I expect to join the Android crowd. :cool:
 
Ashbringer said:
The open source movement, has begun. Just as our lord "Linus Torvalds" has foretold.

On a serious note, do you really have to wonder how a free OS is that popular? It's freakin free, and made by Google.
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Has begun?

You DO realise there were/are still more Linux devices out there than everything else combined before smartphones even really got all that popular?

BSD. Also open source. Apple hijacked it to use it as the foundation for BSD. Though technically not free anymore, it's still open source software being used.

Majority of the world's servers run Linux.

Majority of the world's webhosts/servers run Apache. Both free software.

A good chunk of in-car computers and GPS devices use Linux.

Routers, switches... yeah, they can or do run Linux, too.

The only thing Linux hasn't been able to do is get its shit together and get support from manufacturers for the desktop.

There's no war. Battle's already won. You probably even have Linux in your microwave oven and don't even fucking know it. It is the single most widely propagated, in-use operating system. Ever.
 
uhh.. just how many android devices can even be BUILT in one day?
 
Android devices can be sold so cheaply that they have become what nokia worldwide a decade or so ago.
The US is definitively not biggest source of android activations (guesstimate).

From where I come from (Ecuador, South America) we have around 1.3-1.4 cellphones per citizen. (yes there are more cellphones than people here). Now imagine that same thing happening in Europe/Asia and add to that the fact that apple isnt as big in those places as in the US.

Hell, most of you guys probably didnt know how big Nokia was in underdeveloped countries, it was HUGE. Everyone had a freaking nokia, hell some people didnt even have running water but they had a nokia.
 
Tordek said:
Hell, most of you guys probably didnt know how big Nokia was in underdeveloped countries, it was HUGE. Everyone had a freaking nokia, hell some people didnt even have running water but they had a nokia.
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There are still more Nokia phones out there than all other phone brands combined.

There has been over 250 Million sold of one model alone: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_1100"]Nokia 1100 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Nokia1100_new.jpg" class="image"><img alt="Nokia1100 new.jpg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Nokia1100_new.jpg/200px-Nokia1100_new.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/1/1b/Nokia1100_new.jpg/200px-Nokia1100_new.jpg[/ame]

Any of us who have been using a cellphone for more than 10 years almost certainly has had one of its variants: The 5110, 3210 or 3310.

Accounting for all cellphones ever made, then accounting for all those still in use worldwide: The iPhone still has a 0.1% market share. Nokia? 40%.

The only region that Nokia has trouble in? North America.

They're cheap, simple, hardened after decades of use and work well. Not surprised those old candybar phones that Nokia made that were common as the original pay as you go models are the most common ones out there.
 
cyclone3d said:
Are they takinbg into account people moving from one carrier to another? What about devices that are being replaced and/or upgraded?
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Yes. They word is "activations", the number of phones and devices being activated. If you want to know whether they're new, upgrades, or replacements, you need to ask someone else, as Google is only releasing this one number.

These numbers have to be skewed. The whole story is NOT being told here.
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No, it's just a single statistic. There is no more story. 500K devices are being activated a day. Period. That's it. Done.
 
Warriorprophet said:
I have 4 android devices... it doesn't mean just phones y'know. Hell by saying device you could include refrigerators and TVs/bluray players...
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God, it would suck to activate my fridge and then have WGA fail after installing a new ice tray...

I'm pretty sure the statistic about device activations is referring to phones seeing as android does not require any sort of activation.
 
Android is king of he mobile phone space and will be for the foreseeable future. It's cheap and easy to slap on phones of all types and the number does sound about right as Android is approaching nearly half of the smartphone market.
 
Vermillion said:
I do believe that number is for worldwide.

I have no doubt that the number of activations is 500K a day, but I'd like a breakdown of that number.

How do they determine what is considered an activation? Just the first time a SIM or MEID is connected to a carrier network or every time you enter an e-mail address after a factory reset? When I got my Droid many moons ago the first one they activated for me had a bad key on the physical keyboard so I had them swap it immediately before I left the store. Was that two activations or just one? Numbers like that can add up quickly.

How skewed is the 500K number when you take custom ROM's in account? According to the CM team CyanogenMod itself has 400K unique installs in the world. CM 7.1 RC1 was released 2-3 days ago. Let's assume 10K wiped and installed RC1. Do all those new installs count as new activations? I myself have wiped and reloaded my Thunderbolt 3 times this week (Das BAMF Sense 3.0 RC1, RC2, RC3). Are those 3 different activations?
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I'm pretty sure it is when the device is activated, NOT when an account is registered, etc.. So that would be 500k new devices per week, not counting factory resets, new ROMs, etc... 500k new pieces of hardware waking up to the world for the first time.
 
Zarathustra[H];1037443025 said:
I mean, at that rate you'd add 1 android device per person for the number of people that live in the U.S. in under two years... 1 and 3/4's even...
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Are they counting the china gadgets? There are a TON of them still selling en masse
 
Sly said:
Are they counting the china gadgets? There are a TON of them still selling en masse
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I suspect that they are only counting "With Google" devices - that would be ones that ship with Market and the suite of Google apps. I don't think there is any checkin code in the open source project for Google to even be able to count those.
 
robble said:
uhh.. just how many android devices can even be BUILT in one day?
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kllrnohj said:
I suspect that they are only counting "With Google" devices - that would be ones that ship with Market and the suite of Google apps. I don't think there is any checkin code in the open source project for Google to even be able to count those.
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China is manufacturing millions of Android devices and it is installed on all of them. Being free and open source, everybody is jumping on the bandwagon and coming up with new and unique devices because they don't even need to put work into counterfeiting the thing in the first place.

Perhaps an activation is recorded whenever a new device is first run with Android or when a user accesses certain features first.
 
kllrnohj said:
I suspect that they are only counting "With Google" devices - that would be ones that ship with Market and the suite of Google apps. I don't think there is any checkin code in the open source project for Google to even be able to count those.
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So the donut, froyo and gingerbread tablets lacked the code to call home?

When i got my Archos, there was no 'Activate Me' option and it was tied to the Appslib Market. It didn't have the google apps on it so does that mean google does not consider this to officially exist?
 
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