Going Hi-Tech To Catch Loud Cars

I have some serious amps and a 15" woofer in my car as well:
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Again though, its all about NOT BEING AN ASSHOLE.

Out on the open highway and the like, crank it and let her rip on the entrance ramps and the like, its no big deal. But if you're driving into the neighborhood at 10PM, dont ride around with the sub blasting and your windows open.

1% of assholes are the reason we have and NEED these "anti-asshole" laws, that unfortunately sometimes victimize the people that really aren't causing a problem but the state wants a little revenue.
 
mannyman said:
Ooooo that model s is a great looking car, But i wont trade to a e-car anytime soon it would be far more expensive.
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Well, it depends.

The base model of the car above - if you were to finance the whole thing and factor in the gas savings - won't cost more per month than a $35k car...

It starts at $57,400 -$7,500 federal incentive = $49,900.

With how I drive, I'd probably save about $200 a month in gas (after accounting for how much electricity will cost). Subtract that from the monthly payments, and they look just like the monthly payments for a $35k gas car.

And that's before any state or local incentives, if available in your state.
 
Zarathustra[H];1037302657 said:
With how I drive, I'd probably save about $200 a month in gas (after accounting for how much electricity will cost). Subtract that from the monthly payments, and they look just like the monthly payments for a $35k gas car.
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And I should add, for a car wiith excellent performance, sleek Maserati-like looks and futuristic technology and features, $35k doesn't sounds too expemsive to me :p
 
So there are people around here that agree with me, it just took them most the day to pop up. :p

Since the conversation has moved to electric cars, I think that shows the kind of people I'm preaching to here. Enough said. Debate is over for me.
 
During the daytime I don't care.

At night, DJ Derpface rolling through the neighborhood in his hatchback at 2 in the morning dumping out his bass-tuner CD needs to be ripped out of his car at the next stop sign and beaten until he can hear the years of his life being removed with every fist hitting his face.
 
SKiTLz said:
3000RPM? OHH NO.

My car idles at 1500RPM cause of solid motor mounts. 3000RPM is nothing. The 21st century is soft. Citizens these days are just complete whiners.

Cars are a hobby/interest of many. It's unfortuante there are some asshats, but guess what if it isn't a loud exhaust it'll be something else to wake you up. This mentality of "I don't like it, ban it" is a joke. You don't like something? Too bad. Everyone has dislikes. We deal with it. Banning everything and creating laws to baby sit everything we do is not the answer.
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Wow, you just lost all credibility. In fact, I would not be woken up at 3AM if it weren't for loud vehicles. This "too bad" mentality is also pretty ridiculous. You'll find yourself on the losing end of many battles with that attitude, and guess what the victors will say! "Too bad." Especially when they ticket you for being a grade-A douche nozzle.
 
Zarathustra[H];1037302665 said:
And I should add, for a car wiith excellent performance, sleek Maserati-like looks and futuristic technology and features, $35k doesn't sounds too expemsive to me :p
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Well marginal performance and you have to replace the batteries i think every 4 years and that is 5-8k.

I own my cars already, would not have to fork out 35k for a car, and they will last quite a while and be very cheap to maintain and i only spend like at most 100 a month in gas, I dont see how you would use $250 worth of gas.
 
mannyman said:
Well marginal performance and you have to replace the batteries i think every 4 years and that is 5-8k.

I own my cars already, would not have to fork out 35k for a car, and they will last quite a while and be very cheap to maintain and i only spend like at most 100 a month in gas, I dont see how you would use $250 worth of gas.
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The Model S battery comes with a 7 year/100k mile warrenty. Even then the useful life is supposed to be ~10years give or take. In that amount of time battery technology is forecasted to become even cheaper.
 
{NG}Fidel said:
In life you are going to deal with being woken up when you are sleeping. You are going to deal with music you don’t like. You are going to see cars that upset you. You are going to have to learn how to tune it out and stay calm because it isn’t anywhere near as big of a deal as you
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Some day, you're going to get hit in the face with a brick. And you're going to have to tune it out, because we can't all stop things we don't like, man. That'd be fascist.
 
infect0 said:
The Model S battery comes with a 7 year/100k mile warrenty. Even then the useful life is supposed to be ~10years give or take. In that amount of time battery technology is forecasted to become even cheaper.
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Oh i see, Still it will never be as cheap as what i have.
 
Some day, you're going to get hit in the face with a brick. And you're going to have to tune it out, because we can't all stop things we don't like, man. That'd be fascist
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You didn’t read my entire post, that much is obvious.
Moving on, I wrote in my post that in order for me to want something made
Illegal/banned it has to harm them. That may be financially or physically. I have no obligation to lower my music when I drive. I always do in neighborhoods and I slow down as well. Although the slowing down is the result of me obeying the speed limits and not wanting to crash. It has nothing to do with me caring if Joe blow in the corner lot is a light sleeper or not.

While we are discussing these various ideas for DB limits in neighborhoods why don’t we look at a bigger picture too eh? What do you think about housing areas near airports, train tracks, or even relatively close to a manufacturing district? Should we enforce the DB limit in every housing area where the possibility of someone waking up late at night due to a “noise” might occur? I find it ridiculous and honestly I want more intelligent arguments pertaining to the actual subject, the proposed law, and its various effects. Something I can actually chew on, something that makes me think. To put that bluntly, I need to read something more than
“Hatch back, bass music, asshole, douche bag, deserves to be beaten. I woke up”.
Call me crazy but that’s just how I tend to process things. If someone has a calm intelligent opposing and logical rebuttal to my previous posts I would gladly read and rethink the subject. So far that has not happened.
 
Yeah I am ashamed to say I would get a ticket, JUST because when some punk same age as me thinks its cool to have his moms caviler make loud noise, I rev my truck sometimes. (it helped the vacuum line from the EGR valve to the EGR control was broke off at the time.) Or when they ride around blasting rap or any music that swears and young-lings shouldn't be hearing that, it pisses me off.
So I am for this. I will just have to watch my temper. It is funny to see the punks act cool and try to race from a stop light, only to have myself not race and them get nailed by a cop!
 
WANT! Too many freaking idiots pounding out bass that you can hear from half a mile away and ricers with fart cans. Payback time you inconsiderate asses!
 
I love to hear some cool car doing crazy stuff, just not outside my fucking house at 2am.

I had 2 pricks with cars like that, and one cock on a really loud bike fucking racing back and fourth through my neighbourhood at 3am, normal working week, and kids trying to sleep for school. This happened every night for a week, so after calling the police and getting knowhere, I went vigilante on them and painted a piece of wood black, filled it with nails, and waited for the fuckers.

10 busted tyres later, and half my neighbourhood threatening them, it stopped. Fucking asshats got it good.

Just do this, and it shuts them up good. But if you got a cool car or bike, make it loud, fast and great looking, just dont fuck people off in residential areas.
 
Phoenix333 said:
WANT! Too many freaking idiots pounding out bass that you can hear from half a mile away and ricers with fart cans. Payback time you inconsiderate asses!
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I hate that too, but come on man. Seriously? they like music, and it's hella annoying but it's not something to give tickets over.

Do note, I hate drivers that has loud music and ridiculously loud engines and motorcycles... But over loudness?
 
Stimpy88 said:
I love to hear some cool car doing crazy stuff, just not outside my fucking house at 2am.

I had 2 pricks with cars like that, and one cock on a really loud bike fucking racing back and fourth through my neighbourhood at 3am, normal working week, and kids trying to sleep for school. This happened every night for a week, so after calling the police and getting knowhere, I went vigilante on them and painted a piece of wood black, filled it with nails, and waited for the fuckers.

10 busted tyres later, and half my neighbourhood threatening them, it stopped. Fucking asshats got it good.

Just do this, and it shuts them up good. But if you got a cool car or bike, make it loud, fast and great looking, just dont fuck people off in residential areas.
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While I find it perfectly reasonable to get rid of people who stir up a ruckus in a residential area in the middle of the night, I don't think what they're proposing is the best way to go about it.

Ideally, a neighborhood should come together to find a solution to a common problem. You mentioned that half the neighborhood began to threaten those fools after awhile, which is a good thing. Most people would quit doing something if enough people are opposed to it and show their opposition through direct confrontation and physical presence. If it had escalated despite the threats, you probably could have called the police and they would come straighten things out...ideally. Or the wood-block method works too.

What I'm saying is, this is a legitimate concern when looking at it on the scale of a neighborhood, and the neighborhood should decide amongst itself the best course of action to deal with this issue. However, looking at it a larger scale, it doesn't quite make sense to me. So what if you're driving past an intersection or through a parking lot and some fool is racing his engine or blasting loud, obnoxious music? It's annoying, but you'll probably be away from their car shortly anyway.
 
SLiGuy said:
While I find it perfectly reasonable to get rid of people who stir up a ruckus in a residential area in the middle of the night, I don't think what they're proposing is the best way to go about it.

Ideally, a neighborhood should come together to find a solution to a common problem. You mentioned that half the neighborhood began to threaten those fools after awhile, which is a good thing. Most people would quit doing something if enough people are opposed to it and show their opposition through direct confrontation and physical presence. If it had escalated despite the threats, you probably could have called the police and they would come straighten things out...ideally. Or the wood-block method works too.

What I'm saying is, this is a legitimate concern when looking at it on the scale of a neighborhood, and the neighborhood should decide amongst itself the best course of action to deal with this issue. However, looking at it a larger scale, it doesn't quite make sense to me. So what if you're driving past an intersection or through a parking lot and some fool is racing his engine or blasting loud, obnoxious music? It's annoying, but you'll probably be away from their car shortly anyway.
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Really good words. I agree that it should be something that is very heavily biased towards residential areas. I have no problem with enthusiasts that want to race, test their cars, comptete whatever, just respect other people, and it should be OK. The problem is that no fucker respects anyone these days, so you have to find a way to make them.
 
Commercial areas matter too though. If its a beautiful day and there are twenty to thirty people eating outside at Cafe Adobe having a conversation and enjoying their food, is it really OK for two dudes on Harleys with no mufflers whatsoever to be roaring combustion engine fart noises so loud you can't even hear yourself think? Or you're there to pay respects to your mother that has passed and some guy in a pickup truck has his window down blasting 2Pac "that's why I f*ed your bitch, fat mother f*er, die slow!"?

And you can't rely on a neighborhood to police itself. There are jerks that will race through random neighborhoods all the time, and that particular individual may not return for several weeks. That's why you need law enforcement. But I prefer it to be regular cops on patrol as they can make judgement calls on the location and time of day.
 
{NG}Fidel said:
What right do you have to speak for 'everyone'?
You don’t speak for me at all.

In what way would you prefer I live my life so as to not disturb you?
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obviously I don't speak for you, but if you live in an area where a noise ordnance was passed, your personal opinion doesn't take precedence over the law. Feel free to challenge that law, its your right as a 'merican... let me know how that goes.

Maybe you live in the woods and your idea of freedom is skewed. when your personal interest infringes on everyone else's quality of life, its not everyone else's problem. you are the problem.

For the record, when I was 16, I was ticketed for having a loud stereo in an urban area.
 
mannyman said:
Well marginal performance and you have to replace the batteries i think every 4 years and that is 5-8k
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1.) Based on testing, Tesla expects the battery to retain approximately 70% of its initial capacity after seven years or 100,000 miles.

2.) The performance is actually pretty damned good. 0-60 in 5.6 seconds is pretty nice for a car its size. It should be similar to a BMW 545i with a 325hp V8... Not to mention that it ought to have quite the advantage off the line due to its instant-on peak torque from 0 rpm. It's a real neck snapper, apparently :p

Top speed is only 125mph, which is about 45mph slower than my current car, but I'm mature and not an idiot anymore, so I'm not going to go that fast anymore. It's just dumb to do so.

I was concerned about the range at first, but I did some thinking about it, and I can't remember the last time I drove more than 200 miles in a day (200 miles being the distance to my folks place and back home).

My commute to work is about 8 miles (though it takes 30 minutes to drive), and I probably would never take a job if the drive were longer than 35 or so miles each way.

It may not be the perfect solution for everyone, but for me it should be quite awesome, futuristic and just plain cool.

(I should also add, that I just don't get everyone's infatuation with 70's muscle cars. I find them some of the dumbest, loud, obnoxious, smelly, ugly, shit-handling turds on the roads. :p )
 
Zarathustra[H];1037304115 said:
(I should also add, that I just don't get everyone's infatuation with 70's muscle cars. I find them some of the dumbest, loud, obnoxious, smelly, ugly, shit-handling turds on the roads. :p )
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Also, I added this part, to point out that different people's perception of cool can be very different.
 
burnin8r said:
obviously I don't speak for you, but if you live in an area where a noise ordnance was passed, your personal opinion doesn't take precedence over the law. Feel free to challenge that law, its your right as a 'merican... let me know how that goes.

Maybe you live in the woods and your idea of freedom is skewed. when your personal interest infringes on everyone else's quality of life, its not everyone else's problem. you are the problem.

For the record, when I was 16, I was ticketed for having a loud stereo in an urban area.
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Well said.
 
Most states allow 90-95db @20-50' from the vehicle.

my LS1 with a 3" exhaust doesnt hit 95db until its under load ~6500RPM.

What pisses me off is that I can get pulled over everytime I drive in downtown Salt Lake, but a Harley that is at least 20db louder than my car drives right on by.

If the law is going to be enforced it needs to be done equally.
 
pothb said:
I hate that too, but come on man. Seriously? they like music, and it's hella annoying but it's not something to give tickets over.

Do note, I hate drivers that has loud music and ridiculously loud engines and motorcycles... But over loudness?
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First of all, it's not music. I've yet to hear Mozart coming out of a riced-out Honda Civic with a 500 watt amp and a light kit.

Second, it's more than annoying. For me, it has an effect on my central nervous system. If I'm around low frequencies like that for too long I will literally go berserk. I mean homicidal berserk, so you can understand why I have a serious problem with this. Granted I am at an extreme case and thus I go to extremes to avoid exposure to this, but let's bring it to the suburbs where people don't have that option for an example of what I'm talking about.

You're sleeping soundly and at 2 am the audio equivalent of SHOUT TEXT drives by your house and wakes you up, wakes your wife up, wakes your 4-year old daughter up... and now you have to get the kid to calm back down, the wife is complaining, and your stress level goes up... and you've just lost an hour or sleep getting everyone calmed down. The jackass with the car stereo has already driven off looking something like this, while you're pretty much like this. - and you're sticking up for the guy in the car?

Yes, they deserve a ticket because their selfish douchbaggery is interfering with the ability of people to function normally. Laws are needed to keep one person from trampling on the rights of another, and a lot of places have laws against loud stereos but enforcement is, as the article said, very problematic. Sure, people have a right to listen to music and I agree with that, but they do NOT have a right to make others miserable in the process. That's where their rights end and the rights of others begins. If they want to go deaf that badly they can wear headphones or set a grenade off nearby without wearing ear protection, otherwise they can piss off and pay the fines until they learn to respect others.
 
wow... there's a lot more people defending the inconsiderate, asshole, douchecanoe drivers that feel the need to be loud, incosiderate, douchcanoe, obnoxious assholes in the middle of residential neighborhoods at 3am.
 
LibertySyclone said:
What pisses me off is that I can get pulled over everytime I drive in downtown Salt Lake, but a Harley that is at least 20db louder than my car drives right on by.

If the law is going to be enforced it needs to be done equally.
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I can agree with this. The source shouldn't matter. If you have a noise violation its a noise violation.
 
Phoenix333 said:
First of all, it's not music. I've yet to hear Mozart coming out of a riced-out Honda Civic with a 500 watt amp and a light kit.
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I have Focal 165 K2p Upgraded componets, a Zapco Reference 360.4 powering them, a Image Dynamics IDmax 12 sub, and an Audison LX amp powering it. There is nothing I enjoy more than when some "baller" pulls up next to me blasting his tunes with his windows down and I drown him out with a Bach Chaconne or some Rachmaninoff.. They can never believe it.
 
LibertySyclone said:
Most states allow 90-95db @20-50' from the vehicle.

my LS1 with a 3" exhaust doesnt hit 95db until its under load ~6500RPM.

What pisses me off is that I can get pulled over everytime I drive in downtown Salt Lake, but a Harley that is at least 20db louder than my car drives right on by.

If the law is going to be enforced it needs to be done equally.
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Really? Do you have a lot of imports in your area?

Ever since the fast and the furious came out, it's easy to own a muscle/pony car around my neck of the woods. I have a very loud exhaust on my GTO and I've only gotten compliments on it from the local police and otherwise.

On the other hand, I see countless hondas, mitsubishis and other compact imports in my area getting pulled over for loud exhaust on a regular basis. Granted, I try not to be a dick about it and make noise for the sake of making noise.... but I do get on it every now and then without any hastle from the local fuz.
 
Maybe you live in the woods and your idea of freedom is skewed. when your personal interest infringes on everyone else's quality of life, its not everyone else's problem. you are the problem.
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I live in Orlando, for the record no woods and lots of loud expensive vehicles. Yet not one time has this ever been talked about as a problem. Nor do I recall hearing arguments about vehicle noises living in D.C. or Zurich. I love how the arguments still just insults/feelings and not really logical reason driven ideas.
I truly see this as a subtle way to snub out a group of people whom many in the United States are not comfortable with, regardless whether they have been affected negatively or otherwise by said group.
 
computerpro3 said:
I have Focal 165 K2p Upgraded componets, a Zapco Reference 360.4 powering them, a Image Dynamics IDmax 12 sub, and an Audison LX amp powering it. There is nothing I enjoy more than when some "baller" pulls up next to me blasting his tunes with his windows down and I drown him out with a Bach Chaconne or some Rachmaninoff.. They can never believe it.
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I love this.

I'd pull up alongside gangsta wanna be 's with their rap blasting, and drown them out with the gayest shit I could find, probably some Madonna or something, just for shits and giggles :p
 
Zarathustra[H];1037304577 said:
I love this.

I'd pull up alongside gangsta wanna be 's with their rap blasting, and drown them out with the gayest shit I could find, probably some Madonna or something, just for shits and giggles :p
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I have the Wicked musical soundtrack on my ipod specifically for this occasion.
 
burnin8r said:
Maybe you live in the woods and your idea of freedom is skewed. when your personal interest infringes on everyone else's quality of life, its not everyone else's problem. you are the problem.
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Sadly, we forget about exactly this too much in our day and age. If people showed a little common courtesy and respect for each other's right, we all would be in a better place.
 
SKiTLz said:
3000RPM? OHH NO.

My car idles at 1500RPM cause of solid motor mounts. 3000RPM is nothing. The 21st century is soft. Citizens these days are just complete whiners.

Cars are a hobby/interest of many. It's unfortuante there are some asshats, but guess what if it isn't a loud exhaust it'll be something else to wake you up. This mentality of "I don't like it, ban it" is a joke. You don't like something? Too bad. Everyone has dislikes. We deal with it. Banning everything and creating laws to baby sit everything we do is not the answer.
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What the hell do motor mounts have to do with idle speed?
 
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