Sandy Bridge Pricing Leak?

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Source:
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/11/22/sandy-bridge-pricing-leaks-sweden/

Summary:
The Swedish online retailer Multitronic briefly posted the prices of the new processors before taking them down. The Sweclockers forum noticed it and posted it here:
http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/13089-intel-sandy-bridge-i-svensk-butik

The prices were listed in kr, prices below are currency exchanged and before tax (25% there), courtesy of SemiAccurate:

i5 2300 $213
i5 2400 $221
i5 2500 $241
i5 2500K $253
i7 2600 $340
i7 2600K $363
 
If that's the case then I'm happy to see the price premium between the 2500K and 2600K only around $110. Wil be tough to decide between the two.
 
Hmmm, $250 sounds about what was expected for the 2500K. Don't see the 2600K being worth the extra 50% price premium though, at least not for me.
 
Ehren8879 said:
If that's the case then I'm happy to see the price premium between the 2500K and 2600K only around $110. Wil be tough to decide between the two.
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My socket 2011 Sandy Bridge upgrade is looking shaky though. They start at 6 cores, and I can't image them starting at less than 450$, going up to 600$ for a K version. 8 core SB K version will be 1000$+ for sure, though that I expected.
 
If the $12 k premium is true, hell yeah. I was really afraid Intel was going to stick it to the overclockers on SB. Looks like I may be shopping for a P67 after xmas after all :D
 
Nightbird said:
My socket 2011 Sandy Bridge upgrade is looking shaky though. They start at 6 cores, and I can't image them starting at less than 450$, going up to 600$ for a K version. 8 core SB K version will be 1000$+ for sure, though that I expected.
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Last i checked they start at 4 Core, 8 thread.
 
the 2500K is a little more than I expected and the 2600K substantially less (was going by Anand's guess). Still going to get a 2500K though...
 
German Muscle said:
Last i checked they start at 4 Core, 8 thread.
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We don't know what the s2011 lineup will include. Since it'll be the premium socket starting at 6c/12t isn't totally unreasonable. Unlikely perhaps, but not unreasonable.

I still think these prices are a bit higher than we'll see in the states.
 
I'd expect them to be a bit lower on the regular models, but k models seem accurate.

Current i5 quad is 200 and i7 quad 300, so hopefully prices will hit around there for the locked chips. 250 for unlocked i5 quad and 360 for unlocked i7 quad is very competitive, though.

If the price difference for the unlocked multi is less than $50, as it seems to be, that's a killer deal, if they overclock well.

Does HT make a big difference for games and other lightly multithreaded programs? I've never had a processor with hyperthreading. I got my P4 right before it came out, and I had an Athlon 64 when the hyperthreading P4s were around, then I had C2D without it, and since it made a resurgence on Nehalem, I've only had AMD or C2Q.

2500k seems like the sweet spot for gamers, unless the extra cache and HT makes that much of a difference, or a >2 GPU setup is required (P67 can do split PCIe 2.0 8x8 with the full 2.0 double bandwidth, which is probably fine for most cards)
 
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nalc said:
Does HT make a big difference for games and other lightly multithreaded programs? I've never had a processor with hyperthreading. I got my P4 right before it came out, and I had an Athlon 64 when the hyperthreading P4s were around, then I had C2D without it, and since it made a resurgence on Nehalem, I've only had AMD or C2Q.
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HT doesn't make a lot of difference for those uses, and in fact a lot of people turn it off on i7s to get higher overclocking and cooler temps.
 
Good news. Also I would say pricing would be even cheaper as there are other factors involved than just tax and currency conversion (such as shipping and on the whole pricing in the US in more completive).

Still I do think the 2600's are overpriced (100mhz and hyper threading, wow), but then it is the fastest!

PS: While we're all speculating, my crystal ball says 2600's will be priced about the same as the i7-950.
 
It does look as though the 2600's will be the new i7 920's as such, will wait for reviews though. I was going to go for this Q3 2011 since this SB socket is apparently being delayed. But then again, games and software in general would ahve to REALLY take advantage of multi-core processors for me to ditch a 4GHz i7....
 
I still want to wait for solid pricing on the typical P67 motherboard before I can get a handle on 1155 costs, but if they're comparable to current 1156 boards then the K-series seems reasonably priced.
 
The 2600 is 100MHz faster, has 2MB more cache, has HT, and has a faster max turbo frequency from the HD Graphics (not that anyone here cares about the onboard graphics chip). That's not too bad for $100, certainly better than i7 860 and i7 870 at launch where the only difference was 133MHz for very near double the cost. E6600 had a large price disparity E6700 at their launch also.
The highest end SKU, 2600K, is below $400 and that is a welcome change. Don't forget, the 2600 is going to wipe the floor with anything but core i7 970 and 980x, at less than $350!
 
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Ahhh, pricing... this is good for me to start figuring out my build. Hopefully the 2600k won't be as hard to find as a Unicorn come Feb/March, cuz I won't be building til at least then.
 
djsb said:
I still want to wait for solid pricing on the typical P67 motherboard before I can get a handle on 1155 costs, but if they're comparable to current 1156 boards then the K-series seems reasonably priced.
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Same here. 2600K for me if mobos are decently priced (as in not $200 - $400).
 
As much as there has been complaints, I'm quite happy that it's LGA 1155 with dual channel RAM and 16 PCIe lanes. That should really keep mobo and RAM costs down. I was looking at 1366 in the summer, but at the time an X58 mobo was like $200+ because it had all these features that P55 didn't.

$250 for a 2500K, $150 or less for a good P67 mobo, and $150 for good 2x4GB DDR3 seems like the way to go.
 
Forceman said:
Yep, that's my plan also.
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Same here. Might upgrade to a HT enabled chip eventually when prices fall or a hex core if this socket ever gets graced with them.

Plan is:

2500K
Gigabyte UD4
2x4gb ~1.5V or lower ram. Timings are of minor concern.
 
nice pricing. come on sandy bridge and bulldozer competition. drive those prices down
 
Ehren8879 said:
Same here. Might upgrade to a HT enabled chip eventually when prices fall or a hex core if this socket ever gets graced with them.

Plan is:

2500K
Gigabyte UD4
2x4gb ~1.5V or lower ram. Timings are of minor concern.
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Very similar to my plan. 2500K / UD4 / G.Skill ECO 1.35v/1600/7 2x2GB / GTX560.
 
Yummm 2500k only $10 a K. :p I can't wait to see all the ITX boards that come out for Sandy Bridge. Should be a great launch.
 
Wiseguy2001 said:
Good news. Also I would say pricing would be even cheaper as there are other factors involved than just tax and currency conversion (such as shipping and on the whole pricing in the US in more completive).
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You might be right on that.

One thing I'm sure of, I'm buying mine at Microcenter at a large discount!
 
DaFox said:
Why no 4GB DIMM love?
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laptop has 6, current desktop has 8. But this build is exclusively for gaming, and gaming doesn't really need 8. Trying to keep this build as cheap as is feasible. That doesn't mean I won't grab 8 if I were to get a REALLY good deal, but for the most part no need. The desktop was my only machine for a while, so it had to be able to keep up. This new build doesn't have to fulfill that daily use role.
 
http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/11/26/wholesale-sandy-bridge-list-pricing-appears/

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edit: Note this this leak is supposedly BULK pricing, so actual purchase prices will be higher.
 
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Notice, he said Bulk pricing, 50-50 chance it's also OEM. I'd add 10% to be sure.

On another note, E-tailer price adjusting will definitely account for 8% to 10%, after release. Look how quickly the 6850 price went up :).

My guess $248 retail for the i5-2500k, $364 retail for the i7-2600k. Of course, like all guesses, that's merely speculative.

Considering the source of the chart is a Chinese leak, it still appears aimed at US pricing.

i5-2500k without HT and only 6 mb L3 doesn't seem like that much of an upgrade over current offerings, with the exception of the unlocked multiplier. Again, appearances can be decieving

I think I'll be paitient awhile longer and see what AMD launches.
 
I do wonder what kind of performance hit 2MB L3 less will have. So far, I believe we've only seen 2600K performance numbers. That cache make make all the difference in the world and suddenly $100 more is justified.
 
Ehren8879 said:
I do wonder what kind of performance hit 2MB L3 less will have. So far, I believe we've only seen 2600K performance numbers. That cache make make all the difference in the world and suddenly $100 more is justified.
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The 6 mb L3 Q9xxx series does seem to have some better general performance than it's 4mb kin at stock speeds. Not sure if that translates directly to pure gaming rigs as well.
 
Also the fact that both the new k's will should obviously oc well over 4 ghz will probably have more effect on most enthusiasts than the cache size. The difference will be less obvious to common users.

edited: change user to enthusiast. :)
 
So if the release date is January 9th when would it actually be in the Microcenter for purchase?
 
IIRC, there was an article a few weeks ago saying that this would be a very hard launch, and that most of the SB parts are already built, boxed, and ready to sell.
 
So, if the hardware is ready, the only reason they don't put them on the shelves before christmas, is that they want to get rid of their 'old' i3/5/7's first?
 
3dfx_zombie said:
So, if the hardware is ready, the only reason they don't put them on the shelves before christmas, is that they want to get rid of their 'old' i3/5/7's first?
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New product launches require lots of coordination with retail partners and with product marketing. For instance, they need to give their motherboard partners enough time to prepare their products.
 
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