Cliff Couser
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I got an Origin Scan on the monitor ordered from MacMall.
Shipping out of Tennessee.
Shipping out of Tennessee.
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I got an Origin Scan on the monitor ordered from MacMall.
Shipping out of Tennessee.
The plot thickens. I just want to know how they can sell these for $299 if cost is $384. I smells something fishies. They have 24/7 support, give them a call now.
I ordered 3 from Macmall, I wonder how rebates #2 and #3 are going to go :\. They haven't shipped yet, hopefully I'll get them before the weekend so I have time to play with them
Probably not well if its one rebate per household.
I currently have a U2410. It's a perfect no-problem panel and I have been looking into getting a second on, but it's just too expensive. You guys think it's worth it for me to just sell my U2410 and get two ZR24ws? I really love my U2410 though.
I currently have a U2410. It's a perfect no-problem panel and I have been looking into getting a second on, but it's just too expensive. You guys think it's worth it for me to just sell my U2410 and get two ZR24ws? I really love my U2410 though.
getting my ZR Thursday as well.
if IQ and sharpness are anywhere as good as my current 2209wa, I will be completely happy....and hopefully less aggressive AG.
@KollunZ - if you are happy with the U2410. You may want to stick with that and wait for Black Friday deals for the same monitor. Between the U2410 and the ZR, there really isn't an outright winner, and depending on individual usage needs .
When you get your ZR, can you compare the sharpness between it and the Dell and post results here? I'd be curious to see how the sharpness compares between the two.
Have two ZR24ws and just picked up a 2209wa. The 2209wa looks sharper (i'm not sure if its 'too sharp') and has much better sharpness controls. The white glow (bottom left) also seems less apparent when looking at it dead on, although that might be partially because its a smaller screenWhen you get your ZR, can you compare the sharpness between it and the Dell and post results here? I'd be curious to see how the sharpness compares between the two.
Have two ZR24ws and just picked up a 2209wa. The 2209wa looks sharper (i'm not sure if its 'too sharp') and has much better sharpness controls. The white glow (bottom left) also seems less apparent when looking at it dead on, although that might be partially because its a smaller screen
Ekaggen - would you say the text is noticeably sharper than the ZR24w? I am currently using a Dell at work and the Dell monitor's text overall seems sharper than my ZR24w.
Cliff - looking forward to your comments.
Yes I too would like to know. Really like the 24" 16:10 real estate for spreadsheet work. Text clarity is of utmost importance and I can't decide whether or not to pull the trigger on the ZR24w.
I'm extremely picky about text and for me, the ZR24w doesn't suit my needs. I'm seriously considering getting the U2711, mainly for text and real estate space, as I've never seen a lower pixel pitch than this 27."
Hmmm, so the ZR24w was noticeably worse for text (relative to the 2209WA)?
The U2711 is probably out of my budget. Maybe I should consider two 2209WA side by side, but I don't have that much desk space either. Damn. Best text and then color is of utmost importance (no gaming, movie watching on this for me, just work).
Just thought I would put in my settings, these are done by eye only and NO calibration whatsoever so they are quite far from perfect but they are accurate to not bother me.
Brightness: 0
Contrast: 100
R: 94
G: 140
B: 99
Now a lot of people will probably go mental about using these settings without a calibrator but it works for me
I've been having a "difficult" time reading text on the ZR24w and it seemed more difficult to look at. Now this might be in my head, but I couldn't exactly place my finger on why it was more difficult. I am coming from a 22" Syncmaster T220 which seems much easier to look at. The text on the dell looks VERY different from the ZR24w. I'll see if i can get some decent looking photos.Ekaggen - would you say the text is noticeably sharper than the ZR24w? I am currently using a Dell at work and the Dell monitor's text overall seems sharper than my ZR24w.
Cliff - looking forward to your comments.
I've been having a "difficult" time reading text on the ZR24w and it seemed more difficult to look at. Now this might be in my head, but I couldn't exactly place my finger on why it was more difficult. I am coming from a 22" Syncmaster T220 which seems much easier to look at. The text on the dell looks VERY different from the ZR24w. I'll see if i can get some decent looking photos.
Actually, I COMPLETELY agree with you. The text on the ZR24w is off, for some reason. I can't pinpoint what it is. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this! Also, I agree that it's also difficult to look at. I can't look at the screen for long periods of time without it starting to bother me. I don't know exactly what the problem is. The Dell at work is perfectly fine. The text looks crisper and overall, I can stare at the Dell monitor for hours and it still wouldn't bother my eyes.
See this post I made in a separate thread regarding the text clarity on the ZR24w.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036148586&postcount=24
I don't know if you guys have tried this but Windows has a wizard that let's you 'calibrate' text. If you choose correctly you can more or less get rid of the text antialiasing that Windows adds and that should make text substantially clearer. I'm typing this on my ZR24W now and the text looks fine.
I don't know if you guys have tried this but Windows has a wizard that let's you 'calibrate' text. If you choose correctly you can more or less get rid of the text antialiasing that Windows adds and that should make text substantially clearer. I'm typing this on my ZR24W now and the text looks fine.
What tool is that in Win7?
Using Win7 Premium, and all I have is the Display Color Calibration and the Clear Type Text Tuner.
Just to note: The Dell fails the lagom sharpness test at its default sharpness of 50 and passes at 40. However it still looks decent at 50 sharpness. The HP passes at its default (4) and looks bad at the highest sharpness (5). One reason the HP might be not as sharp could be because it only has 5 sharpness steps instead of 10 like the dell.Actually, I COMPLETELY agree with you. The text on the ZR24w is off, for some reason. I can't pinpoint what it is. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this! Also, I agree that it's also difficult to look at. I can't look at the screen for long periods of time without it starting to bother me. I don't know exactly what the problem is. The Dell at work is perfectly fine. The text looks crisper and overall, I can stare at the Dell monitor for hours and it still wouldn't bother my eyes.
See this post I made in a separate thread regarding the text clarity on the ZR24w.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1036148586&postcount=24
Just to note: The Dell fails the lagom sharpness test at its default sharpness of 50 and passes at 40. However it still looks decent at 50 sharpness. The HP passes at its default (4) and looks bad at the highest sharpness (5). One reason the HP might be not as sharp could be because it only has 5 sharpness steps instead of 10 like the dell.
Also, are your eyes used to a 22" monitor, because that was one of the factors I was thinking of. The 24" HP is bigger than what I'm used to so it causes eyestrain resulting in blurriness?
Hey cliff. I also got the zr24w from macmall. Not sure where the UPC is though. Is it on the box itself? I just want to make sure I do the rebate right. Thanks.
What tool is that in Win7?
Using Win7 Premium, and all I have is the Display Color Calibration and the Clear Type Text Tuner.
Is this where they show you a series of the same sets of text and ask you which one looks the best to you? If that's the one, then yeah, I've already done that. Text still seems off to me. Hmm, maybe I'm not choosing correctly then? You do bring up a good point about the antialiasing. Maybe that's what's causing the text to not look right to me. I'll mess around with it some more later tonight and see if I can get different results.