Win 7 Strikes Again...

So I attempted to use the fancy Hibernate mode just to see what it does... Everything shut down, Good. Everything powered off, nice.

Hit Power button and everything booted back up, check.

Then... utter fail. Win 7 refuses to reactivate my usb ports. All of them are fucking useless except for the one connected to my WiMax card and one connected to my tv Tuner. that's 2 out of 6. How the F do I get it to reawaken these ports... My biggest worry is i've already tried restarting, cold boot.. nothing works!

Try this:
Go into Device Manager, go to each of the USB Root Hubs, and turn off "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power." in the Power Management tab.

Good luck.

There is something wrong with Win7's hibernate. Mine won't resume at all. Go to Microsofts forum and there are 500 different threads about it an no fixes, at least none that I have found.

So I just don't use hibernate which kinda sucks cause sleep mode keeps my case fans running.

Gym Rat said:

There is something wrong with Win7's hibernate. Mine won't resume at all. Go to Microsofts forum and there are 500 different threads about it an no fixes, at least none that I have found.

So I just don't use hibernate which kinda sucks cause sleep mode keeps my case fans running.

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I'm pretty sure that kind of issue is something in conjuncture with your hardware as well, so it's hard for Microsoft to pin it down for all systems.

ugh, never going to try that again. my issue is that hibernate knocks out my remote (x10 based).
Tried setting all the usb ports to not sleep.
my g15 keyboard would flicker, power supply go off then on then off
button presses do nothing....
i think we will stick with no sleep....

WhiteZero said:

I'm pretty sure that kind of issue is something in conjuncture with your hardware as well, so it's hard for Microsoft to pin it down for all systems.

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Youre probably right. However, I was running Win7 RC for nearly a year and it worked perfectly. The problem didnt start til I installed the retail version. And Ive since upgraded both my CPU and GPU and still no joy. No biggie really. Just a pain in the ass. I hate hearing my case fans run all night.

99.9% of the energy/power management issues with Windows are because of shitty hardware drivers and not the fault of the OS so don't go slinging blame where it doesn't belong.

Open an Administrative Command Prompt and type:

powercfg -energy (then press Enter, of course)

and let the trace complete, don't do anything with the machine when that runs, don't move the mouse, etc, just let it finish uninterrupted. After that, you'll get the report that you can analyze and see what is causing potential energy/power management issues.

I will almost always bet that if and when "errors" appear on the report (highlighted in the pink sections, very easy to spot) you'll find USB devices/ports/hubs practically guarantee that Windows will not handle suspend or hibernate functions correctly.

Again, the issue doesn't lie with Windows, it lies with the drivers for those devices, and Microsoft doesn't write drivers so, it's not their fault, nor it is the fault of Windows 7 itself. If you get an error that looks like this:

USB Suspend:USB Device not Entering Suspend
The USB device did not enter the Suspend state. Processor power management may be prevented if a USB device does not enter the Suspend state when not in use.
Device Name USB Composite Device
Host Controller ID PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_03F1
Host Controller Location PCI bus 0, device 2, function 0
Device ID USB\VID_05AF&PID_0802
Port Path 3

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hibernation isn't going to "work right" on your machine or at least the machine that test is run on. Look for potentially updated drivers for the USB controllers, that's your only real option. It's tough to get a machine 100% compliant with 0 errors but it can be done...

If you want to get really extreme and find the exact cause(s) of the issues, there's the PowerTest tool (pwrtest.exe) provided by Microsoft - it's on the Windows 7 DVD in the tools\acpi\pwrtest folder. Here's the MSDN page for more info:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd450406.aspx

It's more for driver developers than anything else but, hey, it's there if you care to use it and see what's going on.

And just as a disclaimer, even with USB errors that show up in the power management report on a wide variety of machines I've tested (pretty much every single one), hibernation and sleep/standby/suspend always seems to work without problems, go figure. But then again, I only use Intel-based machines - I won't deal with AMD-based hardware nor any of the supporting chipsets by ATI/Nvidia/VIA/SiS/etc. Can't say that's why but, it's sure ain't no coincidence in my experience.

Just ran this test and I get three pink errors like what you have quoted and my hybrid hibernation works perfectly.

Another issue resuming from sleep depends on what version of the MB BIOS you are running from the vendor and what degree of overclocking you are doing. I stopped fooling around with S3 cause of issues with my X58 from EVGA because it's a hit and miss proposition and I got tired of retrying.

Tark

Gym Rat said:

There is something wrong with Win7's hibernate. Mine won't resume at all. Go to Microsofts forum and there are 500 different threads about it an no fixes, at least none that I have found.

So I just don't use hibernate which kinda sucks cause sleep mode keeps my case fans running.

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Set your bios power management to S3 instead of S1or S2 and the fans will spin down.

Gym Rat said:

Youre probably right. However, I was running Win7 RC for nearly a year and it worked perfectly. The problem didnt start til I installed the retail version. And Ive since upgraded both my CPU and GPU and still no joy. No biggie really. Just a pain in the ass. I hate hearing my case fans run all night.

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That that case, perhaps a format/reinstall would fix it?

Ah, the joys of "it should work" components.

well Many cold reboots later... they finally reawakened... lol... to be honest I didn't try the hibernate feature for the heck of it, i accidentally brushed it on the keyboard. Now i gotta figure out how to disable that button :|

both my lappys do it sometimes after hibernate, I have to shut em down and pull the batterys and let em sit for a while, usb comes back after many reboots but it takes a while. I can fire up a linux distro and usb works fine

Gym Rat said:

There is something wrong with Win7's hibernate. Mine won't resume at all. Go to Microsofts forum and there are 500 different threads about it an no fixes, at least none that I have found.

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Probably more related to the specific drivers from your PC makers website. I'm a heavy user of laptops, my main laptops travel with me all the time going to and from various clients offices as I work on their servers and networks. My laptops probably get shut down once every 3 or 4 months...the rest of the time, they're quickly stuffed into my laptop bag running with only a closing of the lid putting them into standby..and eventually hibernate. That's usually several times a day, and in addition...several times from home in the early morning and in the evening. Since Win7 came out...I've never had such a reliable setup....Veesta and XP and prior I hated that feature, often had to hold that power button down to force a hard reboot.

With laptops ...making sure you have the latest system enhancements and drivers installed helps. My USB ports..(and all peripherals for that matter)...work rock solid any time I need them, so clearly it's not a global "wrong with Win7" problem

Win 7 hibernates just fine with my laptop and desktop. Both are Intel chipsets. The only machine that I ever had problems was with Nvidia Nfroce based one.......

Gym Rat said:

There is something wrong with Win7's hibernate. Mine won't resume at all. Go to Microsofts forum and there are 500 different threads about it an no fixes, at least none that I have found.

So I just don't use hibernate which kinda sucks cause sleep mode keeps my case fans running.

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Why not use sleep? Sleep is for all practical purposes pretty much "off"... Your fans should either shut off or run very low.

Windows runs on MILLIONS of configurations of hardware. It won't work right on everything. That said though, the blame is the hardware itself (or drivers), not Windows...

Bahamut gave an excellent suggestion of finding out where the faults lie.

It's not so much that Windows has to work with millions of configurations, but that the hardware having problems does not follow the established interfaces for power management (or has non-working defaults). While Windows may sometimes work around some common quirks, the fault really is in the out of spec hardware and/or poor device drivers.

IOW, the expectations are for Windows to work around problems caused by manufacturers of devices that don't care enough to follow specifications. It's unreasonable. When MS offers services to make sure drivers are tested and working (WHQL, signing, etc), some people just complain more.