NVIDIA Exec Says Intel Hindering Graphics

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NVIDIA is still complaining about Intel every chance it gets. Don’t these guys have a court date yet?

Daniel Vivoli, a senior vice president at the graphics chip supplier, said in response to a question from a panelist on the show that consumers shouldn't be "denied the ability" to use lower-end Nvidia graphics technology.
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WBurchnall said:
As much as nVidia throws stones though, Intel won't be falling down like the Giant did.
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Keeping the dodgy analogy going to win they will have to throw a lot of stones for a very long time, if they can do that then there's pretty good chance they'll win big, bigger then AMD perhaps (which basically ran out of stones so had to settle for less).
 
How ironic that this is coming from Nv. The king of locking down everything they can and reducing consumer choice. SLI users are damn lucky that Nv was not able to make an I7 chip set.
 
Such silliness that depends upon little to no technical knowledge...just a bunch of chest beating. Last I knew there were PCIe lanes on the CPUs which is perfectly suitable for graphics chips (sorry NV but no sane person prefers your chipsets for I/O to Intel's) So NV, quit crying and just make pure graphics chips for add-ons since that's what you do best anyway.
 
Intel integrated graphics just plain suck! And the AMD and nvidia integrated graphics is 2-3 times faster but still nothing can beat a dedicated card. It stinks theAtom platform crippled by its poor integrated graphics and slow CPU cannot processes 108-P streaming video,. I'd love to see a netbook or tablet with Tegra.
 
Hey nVidia.. STFU
your mouth is what got you into this mess.. remember the openly hostile remarks you made about Intel BEFORE they told you they weren't going to renew your license? They're not relevant or something along those lines?
yeah.. hmm, my 12yo knows that if he says something stupid about a person, they won't want to treat him well, it's called "Life" the way it's meant to be played.
face it, you opened your mouth and was slapped for it. I would expect no less from anybody else nor any other organization. Now man up and do something about it OTHER than continuing to feed the fires, I don't know... innovate maybe?
 
NVIDIA arriving late to market with uncompetitive parts is hindering graphics, not Intel.
 
Madman0 said:
So NV, quit crying and just make pure graphics chips for add-ons since that's what you do best anyway.
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Yeah, NVIDIA's been spreading themselves around to the extent that they seem to have forgotten the importance of producing really good graphics cards. Instead of being efficient, they're trying to brute force their way into everything just to get their hands in it.

Bad way to do business, in my opinion. Unless you can do one thing phenomenally well, don't bother trying to get your hands into anything else.
 
lol sounds like they need to do what Porsche does. Make on REALLY good car and then chop it down.
 
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He also took the opportunity to assert that Adobe's Flash application runs better on Nvidia chips than Intel silicon. "It turns out most of the video on the Web runs on Flash, which runs way more efficiently on a GPU than a CPU and way more efficiently on an Nvidia GPU than an Intel GPU," he said.
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That's a pretty neat trick, nVidia. Last time I checked, Flash was software based, not hardware. Hardware version 10.1 for GPU support isn't a public launch yet.
 
adonn78 said:
Intel integrated graphics just plain suck! And the AMD and nvidia integrated graphics is 2-3 times faster but still nothing can beat a dedicated card. It stinks theAtom platform crippled by its poor integrated graphics and slow CPU cannot processes 108-P streaming video,. I'd love to see a netbook or tablet with Tegra.
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Well, it certainly USED to be that way, but the very latest generation of Intel graphics (Intel HD graphics) is FINALLY very close in performance to nVidia and AMD integrated solutions... Still, it's too bad this fight is going on but like others have said nVidia is much better at discrete graphics than chipset/integrated graphics solutions anyway...
 
Not that I agree with nVidia but Intel integrated graphics just suck ass.The reason I bought my tm2 TPC was because its the ONLY tablet currently on the market that doesn't use only Intel IGPs, it has an option for an HD 4550, great little GPU for this bugger. Decently fast for moderate gaming while running cool and not killing the battery.
 
TechBoy said:
Lol at least they do 1 thing right. Nvidia cant seem to do anything right these days. (smack talk, under preforming cards, etc. etc.)
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Got my 3rd 480 in today, will be putting in my new build next month. I don't have any 5800 series cards, do have a 5770 in a backup rig and its a great little card, but so far I'm happy with the 480. Yes its hot, the noise isn't an issue for my for lots of reasons, and so far 2 of them rock.

Yes Fermi has its problems but performance isn't one of them.
 
i thought one of the biggest issues with intel IGP is that the drivers still offload the work to the CPU most of the time, could they not easily, i would think, take the load to the IGP?

or is it just that the IGP of intel does have the power behind it like ATI and NVIDIA does...
 
RumpleForeSkin said:
Hey nVidia.. STFU
your mouth is what got you into this mess.. remember the openly hostile remarks you made about Intel BEFORE they told you they weren't going to renew your license? They're not relevant or something along those lines?
yeah.. hmm, my 12yo knows that if he says something stupid about a person, they won't want to treat him well, it's called "Life" the way it's meant to be played.
face it, you opened your mouth and was slapped for it. I would expect no less from anybody else nor any other organization. Now man up and do something about it OTHER than continuing to feed the fires, I don't know... innovate maybe?
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You should do your homework before you post stuff like this. Intel first said the dedicated GPU was going to die. In response, NVIDIA said the CPU was losing relevance.

I'd be embarrassed if I were you.
 
TechBoy said:
Lol at least they do 1 thing right. Nvidia cant seem to do anything right these days. (smack talk, under preforming cards, etc. etc.)
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Actually, NVIDIA has some really impressive low-power/mobile stuff. Tegra's still very capable, and Tegra 2 is really impressive. It isn't being adopted very widely, though, which leads me to believe that it's just too expensive compared to PowerVR's SGX chips. But capable, yeah.

NVIDIA can still make good stuff, but no one product of theirs is king in any market. Like I suggested, their resources are being spread too thin. Too many product lines; not enough individual focus.
 
phide said:
Actually, NVIDIA has some really impressive low-power/mobile stuff. Tegra's still very capable, and Tegra 2 is really impressive.
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On the cpu yes it impressive (Tegra 2) but not on the gpu side it is not the impressive which is kinda ironic :p
the gpu core state the same between Tegra and Tegra 2
but is clocked higher in Tegra 2
Tegra(120MHz) Tegra 2(240MHz)
and just as comparison you can fit powervr sgx543mp2 in the same die area of the tegra gpu
and with a more modest frequency than 240MHz and still have a healthy lead in performance and capabilities overall
It isn't being adopted very widely, though, which leads me to believe that it's just too expensive compared to PowerVR's SGX chips. But capable, yeah.
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NVIDIA tried to use the same tactic as they use in desktop marketing......
and manufacturer would flock to them
which to NVIDIA surprise did not work
but the fact remains that they are not the best in this area
and manufacturer can get the same performance and capabilities of the tegra 2
for cheaper for example OMAP4
 
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