Bad Company 2

Morazl said:
The key is being patient and playing smart. You can't play like goddamn rambo and expect a 1.5 KD ratio. Also, support classes will help you live longer (medic) and you can still get in on the action.
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This sounds retarded but what exactly does playing smart mean? Should I be sticking to the routes less travelled? Should I be hanging back from the main engagements? Sniping?

sirmonkey1985 said:
M16A2 with 40mm gernade.. its basically the ultimate weapon in the game.. insanely over powered when you compare the fact that the M416 and M16A2 both use .223 rounds yet takes half the bullets to kill some one with the M16A2 vs the M416.. second best weapon is the m60 machine gun.. throw a 4x scope with magnum ammo upgrade and enjoy sniping people with it from across the map..
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Not that BC2 is a simulation or to split hairs here, but the M16A2 should be noticeably more potent than the M416 in the game. Based upon how the M416 looks in the game its probably a 10 inch barrel, as opposed to the M16A2's 20 inch barrel. Which means the M16A2 should have a much higher muzzle velocity, and effective range. And technically its a 5.56x45mm not a .223 due to the different pressures the rounds have and the internal thickness of the casing. :D But yes it should be more similar.

Jellylesg said:
Because it's a bad class compared to Engineer or Medic, and only equal to Recon when you take the G3 and C4.

Played 90% Assault up to rank 25 or so before realising it's only good for the ammo box.
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Assault class is the only one I am relatively good at. Most of the other classes I just get slaughtered. Possibly because half of my kills are from the noob tube. I leveled the assault class hard, I am only lvl12 but I have unlocked the M16A2 which is great at range since it places most of its 3 round burst into a tight grouping. Couple that with the 4x optic and its a decent medium long range rifle. The noob tube is usefull and medium to short behind cover.
 
Chombo said:
This sounds retarded but what exactly does playing smart mean? Should I be sticking to the routes less travelled? Should I be hanging back from the main engagements? Sniping?
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This is what I mean by playing smart: http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1035467281#post1035467281

Also mind your fight or flight instincts. I don't know how many times I've been jumped, yet managed to survive and kill my attacker. It's as simple as sprinting like crazy while making a mental note of the direction on your hit indicator. Keep running until you're behind cover, the guy's stopped shooting, or whenever you've gotten your bearings, then put together to clues to find the bastard. I almost never just turn and fire back because the guy's already got a fix and a couple shot head start on killing me. By finding a better position and/or concealing myself, the playing field is leveled.

Of course, if you're playing hardcore, once you're shot at, it's often too late to do anything.
 
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spicey said:
Saw 3 in the space of a few minutes last night aswell. Ignorant cheating bastards caught out by the Punkbuster flag incorrectly showing as OFF. The map was Laguna Alta IIRC, perhaps we were on the same server? I forget the server name but I would add it as a favourite (if I could)

I find the aimbot bans amusing as hell too, it's as satisfying as getting a multikill.:D
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No it wasn't Laguna Alta I was playing Nelson Bay.
 
chineseman said:
I personally love the PP-2000, the hip-fire seems dead accurate with a very manageable/controllable recoil. It's not so great long-range but it obliterates everything in short-medium range engagements; don't bother aiming down the sights cause you can just hop around spraying from the hip and win.
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In addition to spraying from the hip I don't know what it is about this gun, but I drop the enemy very quickly. Faster to me than any other gun. I of course haven't tried out the M60 yet. :D
 
Chombo said:
Is rush or conquest easier for you all? I seem to play conquest the most since its the mode I am familiar with the most from BF2. However it seems like it might be a lot easier to be killed in conquest since there are so many directions you can be attacked from.



I like those ideas. I will have to be a lot more carefull.
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Depends on what you mean by "easier."

I don't generally care for k/d ratio. I think my lifetime is something like 0.7 or so. But if you want to improve you k/d ratio, here's what you do:

- Play sniper on hardcore servers. One shot one kill makes it easy to get lots of kills, and no 3d spotting or kill cam means it is harder for the other team to find you. It is specially easy to do this on rush maps if you know where to hide since there will be less people wondering about. Sure, if you are on offense you won't really be helping your team, but that is what you do if you want to improve the k/d ratio. If you are good at getting headshots, they won't even get the directional indicator of where the shot came from.


- If you don't want to play sniper, play on normal servers. On hardcore servers you can die 3 or 4 times before you even find the sniper. If you want to help your team, it is easier to get a good k/d ratio on conquest maps. If you don't care about helping your team, it is easier to get a good k/d ratio on rush maps.
 
Have they fixed the bug that makes your optics dissapear when switching to the 40MM grenade?

diogo said:
Depends on what you mean by "easier."

I don't generally care for k/d ratio. I think my lifetime is something like 0.7 or so. But if you want to improve you k/d ratio, here's what you do:

- Play sniper on hardcore servers. One shot one kill makes it easy to get lots of kills, and no 3d spotting or kill cam means it is harder for the other team to find you. It is specially easy to do this on rush maps if you know where to hide since there will be less people wondering about. Sure, if you are on offense you won't really be helping your team, but that is what you do if you want to improve the k/d ratio. If you are good at getting headshots, they won't even get the directional indicator of where the shot came from.


- If you don't want to play sniper, play on normal servers. On hardcore servers you can die 3 or 4 times before you even find the sniper. If you want to help your team, it is easier to get a good k/d ratio on conquest maps. If you don't care about helping your team, it is easier to get a good k/d ratio on rush maps.
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Thats partially why my KD sucks is that I want to help the team buy going for the control points as quickly as possible and I get capped along the way.
 
I play Rush more than anything here lately. I go back and fourth between being useful, and well, not being so useful. Sometimes I really get in there and take out the M-COM stations, or park as a Recon/Sniper in view of our M-COM stations in order to protect them. This is easier on some maps than others, but I have found it to work pretty good for the most part.
 
Anyone know the trick to getting server pings to show up? When I first installed the game last week, I saw pings for a good number of servers. Since that day though, every server shows no ping.

Also, I just read the last few pages and am wondering where the term "noobtube" came from for certain guns/weapons?
 
I always rely on the logitech lcd manager. It automatically starts the Battlefield: BC2 profile and shows the ping among other very useful info. The main screen might show a dash, but the lcd will always show correct ping. It refreshes real time.
 
Tzzird said:
Anyone know the trick to getting server pings to show up? When I first installed the game last week, I saw pings for a good number of servers. Since that day though, every server shows no ping.

Also, I just read the last few pages and am wondering where the term "noobtube" came from for certain guns/weapons?
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Run as administrator, that makes the PINGs appear for me.

I assume the noobtube comment comes from COD4 with the M203 and it has been applied to BC2's 40MM grenade launcher.
 
Chombo said:
Run as administrator, that makes the PINGs appear for me.

I assume the noobtube comment comes from COD4 with the M203 and it has been applied to BC2's 40MM grenade launcher.
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Heh, no. I first learned of the term "noobtube" from BF2, but i'm sure its been around before then too, just not in relation to the 40mmgl
 
I can't stand BC2's Conquest mode. It's just not the same Conquest as BF2, it feels way too confined. I mostly play Rush because of this.
 
Finally bit on this game due to the $31 deal on EA's site this weekend. I just bought a 5850 and was looking to find a new game to stress it, and I had read a while back that this game was pretty hard on systems. I was quite surprised at how easily this game runs on my 5850. 1920x1200 rez, all high, 8xAA, 16xAF, HBAO on, dx11, FOV 80. Got framerates from the low 40s to 60s. I thought this game would kill at those settings, guess they must have optimized it since I read last? Or maybe I am doing something wrong w/ my settings? I went into the config file to set dx11 and fov. Is there a higher setting in this game that I need to somehow unlock? System in sig.

Now to get torn apart here. I have only played like an hour or so, but I found MW2 to be better graphically and the game pace to be more fun. Maybe I burned out on BF2 back in the day, or maybe I need to give it more time. Maybe I just CANT STAND the dying animations, the whole 'fall to the side' thing is the epitome of console to me.

I'm definitely going to give this game some more time, and hope that it turns the game around for me. The fact that there are a zillion posts here make me think that I'm missing something with this game.
 
chineseman said:
I like to run PP-2000, Tracer, RPG, +explosive ammo, +explosive dmg. I prefer the RPG over the CG cause it kills tanks in two hits with the explosive dmg upgrade anyways and reloads faster. Tracer + RPG kills are more satisfying than CG kills anyways :D. I'm usually running around doing stupid stuff so this is my solo build.
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I've noticed the RPG rockets aren't as agile as the CG rockets when shooting the rocket straight up into the air on a traced target. I like doing that across the map when the traced tank is like 200+ meters away and I just start locking on and shooting straight up watching it gain altitude and then darting off toward the tank. So satisfying.

This also reminds me that I notice waaay too many people tracing targets or even my tank and displaying no sense of how to lock onto the trace. Such a funny advantage.
 
gentoo said:
I've noticed the RPG rockets aren't as agile as the CG rockets when shooting the rocket straight up into the air on a traced target.
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i've noticed this as well. the CG performs much better as a make-shift javelin.
 
CG rockets are anti-infantry, they are crazy weak vs armor. The RPG or the AT4 is what you want.
 
gentoo said:
I've noticed the RPG rockets aren't as agile as the CG rockets when shooting the rocket straight up into the air on a traced target. I like doing that across the map when the traced tank is like 200+ meters away and I just start locking on and shooting straight up watching it gain altitude and then darting off toward the tank. So satisfying.

This also reminds me that I notice waaay too many people tracing targets or even my tank and displaying no sense of how to lock onto the trace. Such a funny advantage.
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Porter_ said:
i've noticed this as well. the CG performs much better as a make-shift javelin.
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Oh I agree that the CG is the best launcher in the game but the RPG isn't without its merits. The RPG has a faster reload time and does more damage than the CG versus armor which is extremely helpful when the enemy engi hops out and starts repairing. Usually in these situations, the second rocket from your RPG is enough to deliver the killing blow despite the tank being repaired. With the CG, you're going to have to bust out a third rocket which may not be enough due to the slow reload and the fact that the engy has been repairing non-stop since you fired your first rocket.

I seem to get a lot more one shot kills vrs helicoptors with the RPG as well but this is harder due to the slower speed of the rocket compared to the CG.
 
Intel_Hydralisk said:
No need to test: http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

Couple notable things:

The CG has almost twice the fatal radius as the 40 mm and moves 1.5x as fast.
The M60 does more damage with the same RPM as your typical mounted heavy MG.
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ooo nice charts. Looks like the AT Mine does the same as C4. My suicide M-Com bomb class will be an engineer now. Just run in with +explosive ammo +explosive dmg and drop all the mines around the m-com station. You're pretty much guaranteed damage on the m-com station. If you plant all mines successfully then just back out and lob a nade on them. If they shoot you before you can get out, your mines persist through death and you can finish the job later. If you drop all the mines and they start spamming you with nades and launchers then it'll set off the mines as well. Seems like a much more foolproof plan than trying to C4 the thing when you end up dying most of the time before you can get to safety to detonate.
 
186.18 + DX9 mode + shadows low, bloom off, rendering limit 1 = pretty much 60 FPS throughout.

Very nice. M60 is so freaking overpowered. I'm running around with it and can easily take out the whole squad with one magazine.
 
BDV said:
186.18 + DX9 mode + shadows low, bloom off, rendering limit 1 = pretty much 60 FPS throughout.

Very nice. M60 is so freaking overpowered. I'm running around with it and can easily take out the whole squad with one magazine.
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its not really that over powered if you know how to defend against it and if the person using it isnt using the magnum ammo upgrade.. but on close range maps its a beast.. my favorite machine gun is the MG3.. that things fuckin funny as hell to run around with if you got an assault guy following you.. takes about 2 seconds to fire an entire magazine and has no recoil or bullet spread.. :p
 
so this is the 3rd or 4th time this has happened... I'm playing fine then all of a sudden my screen goes white and i cant see anything. I can still shoot and move around, i just can't see anything...

any ideas?
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
its not really that over powered if you know how to defend against it and if the person using it isnt using the magnum ammo upgrade.. but on close range maps its a beast.. my favorite machine gun is the MG3.. that things fuckin funny as hell to run around with if you got an assault guy following you.. takes about 2 seconds to fire an entire magazine and has no recoil or bullet spread.. :p
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I dunno...if you look at the chart Intel_Hydralisk posted; it's pretty darn OP. M60 does 25 dmg per bullet (31.25 with magnum ammo) while the next closest are the PKM/XM8 at 16.7 dmg per bullet, M249/T88/MG36 @ 14.3, and the MG3 @ 10.0. That's a pretty huge gap. The M60 has the slowest drop off damage of all the guns as well and the damage at max range is almost 2x as powerful as the other guns.

The M3 has the fastest fire rate, almost twice as fast as the M60 but only does 10 dmg per bullet and takes a huge nosedive in damage when shooting past 40 meters. With magnum ammo + shooting past 40 meters; you need to connect 9 bullets to drop your target. That's a lot of shots and trying to control your recoil at that range is pretty tough. The M60 can drop that target at that range in 4, much easier to do.

Those are not counting headshots btw which count as 2.1x dmg. In which case, the M60 higher coefficient makes headshots even deadlier.
 
chineseman said:
I dunno...if you look at the chart Intel_Hydralisk posted; it's pretty darn OP. M60 does 25 dmg per bullet (31.25 with magnum ammo) while the next closest are the PKM/XM8 at 16.7 dmg per bullet, M249/T88/MG36 @ 14.3, and the MG3 @ 10.0. That's a pretty huge gap. The M60 has the slowest drop off damage of all the guns as well and the damage at max range is almost 2x as powerful as the other guns.

The M3 has the fastest fire rate, almost twice as fast as the M60 but only does 10 dmg per bullet and takes a huge nosedive in damage when shooting past 40 meters. With magnum ammo + shooting past 40 meters; you need to connect 9 bullets to drop your target. That's a lot of shots and trying to control your recoil at that range is pretty tough. The M60 can drop that target at that range in 4, much easier to do.

Those are not counting headshots btw which count as 2.1x dmg. In which case, the M60 higher coefficient makes headshots even deadlier.
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true but its still easy to kill some one using it.. just takes team work.. one on one your screwed.. but the M60 is basically a hand held AT gun.. they both shoot the same bullets.. though there is a huge gap between the damage ratings on the guns you have to take into consideration how fast they fire and their accuracy.. the m60 is useless past 2 round bursts.. the gun starts firing everywhere.. within the time you get 2 shots on a target ive already put 10 rounds from an MG3 into your chest.. same with the m16a2 by the time you get more then 2 rounds on me from the m60 ive already put 2 3 round bursts into your head/chest.. so there is a lot to consider in the actual damage potential of gun and not just straight damage numbers..
 
F.E.A.R. said:
Last night, 3 guys were banned in one match for aimbotting. I had a smile in my face.
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They probably aren't actually being banned from your server

servers that stream punkbuster bans get info from other servers as well and will announce it as the data streams in. if someone is banned on a streaming server, it shows up on all streaming servers when they get it.


and PB bans are permanent now unlike all other previous games using it. a bigger cheating infraction won't just ban you for 5 minutes, you're gone for good. i believe PB supports hardware id bans as well, but they go by CD key for now.
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
true but its still easy to kill some one using it.. just takes team work.. one on one your screwed..
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Actually, I've found 1v1 I tend to beat M60s more often than I lose. Maybe its just noob players though. I'm generally using something like an assault rifle, but sometimes even SMGs I'll win the 1v1 against an M60. And likewise, my luck when I'm using an M60 vs people without M60s isn't all that brilliant. Maybe its because I use the ACOG scope and in 1v1 fights crouch and aim for the head.

The biggest problem I have is that the M60 is powerful AND it has a massive magazine.
 
I'm still having CF issues with the latest 10.3 drivers w/ or w/out CFX app profiles. Great game though, i just hope ATi/DICE get it fixed soon though. Seems like more of an ATi issue. :-(
 
socK said:
They probably aren't actually being banned from your server
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If you are streaming to PBBans, they will also be banned from your server. They may not have been caught on your server but they will still be added to all streaming servers master ban list. So even though the message might not be a cheater caught directly on your server, you can be proud it is one less cheater on streaming servers.

For all servers with PB on but not streaming to PBBans, well goodluck finding a clean one

I'm in a clan Called FLOT and we stream, and so far we have caught 13 cheaters in BC2 and they are added to the master ban list for not only our servers but all streaming servers, and the other 1000+ cheaters caught by PBBans for BC2 are also banned from our servers

 
Crotan, where do you guys host most of your servers? I like collecting a nice list of quality Chicago servers for me to stomp around in.
 
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