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The one with the dual core CPU... SU9400.
#1. WC3 isn't a fps.
#2. You have no idea what a complete POS WC3 looks like with settings turned down do you...?
That stinks.In canada the price for this dc CPU over the solo is about $400Cdn. Intel really gets ya for wanting two cores,and on wanting the use of HD and 720 on a 'net-note' book
In canada the price for this dc CPU over the solo is about $400Cdn. Intel really gets ya for wanting two cores,and on wanting the use of HD and 720 on a 'net-note' book
#1. I didn't say it was, I said there is even less need to have high settings in a fps
#2. No, I tried playing the game for about 5 minutes and wasn't impressed. Can't imagine it being any worse than any other old game. Just tried AoE2 and could tell 0 difference between low and high. Then again it doesn't look good to start with stretched out to 19x12. Would still rather play it than most new games.
That stinks.
Wiki shows no difference in price between the single and duals (US anyway) If that's the case it's kind of ridiculous that they get away with charging 150-200 bucks more on a machine that's only 600 to begin with.
You use Wiki to do comparison shopping? The price difference between the SU9400 and the SU27/37 Timeline is around $300 USD as well, not just a Canadian thing.
Since you're not familiar with WC3, stop imagining
No, I just happen to look up the culv's the other day to see what the lineup is (since I'm not familiar with the chips) and remembered that they price difference they had listed wasn't much.
Intel's website also lists the price for the SU3500 (1.4 single) and the SU9400 (1.4 dual) as $262 each (OMG Wiki got something right ). My point was that I can't see how they get away with charging so much more for timelines with the duals when they aren't actually paying any more.
I'm not imagining that going from crappy graphics to crappier graphics really doesn't take away from gameplay.
So I don't know what constitutes good gameplay because I haven't played this particular game? If you really believe that its' not as good then why are you playing such an old game to begin with? Obviously it the gameplay can't be good with such horrible graphics. I'm just trying to understand your logic.It takes away from gameplay. Since you don't play it, stop commenting on it already.
you still could swap them if you were feeling extremely adventurous
You go run a netbook without a fan and report back how much insurance $ you were able to claim with your burnt down house
Frame rates suck, stop trying to argue and leave it at that.So I don't know what constitutes good gameplay because I haven't played this particular game? If you really believe that its' not as good then why are you playing such an old game to begin with? Obviously it the gameplay can't be good with such horrible graphics. I'm just trying to understand your logic.
Considering people are getting perfectly acceptable framerates out of the 950's in regular netbooks, you shouldn't even have had an issue anyway.
It is insanely ridiculous, no argument.When Apple does that people cry unjustice. Maybe I'm alone in thinking that a $200 upgrade on a sub $600 laptop is insane when it costs the manufacturer absolutely nothing. If they weren't soldered you could swap them yourself for little to nothing after selling the old chip.
My experience - MSI Wind, EEEPC 1000HA, NC10 can get pretty damn hot. No one else taking the step into fanless territory after Dell is a good indication that they're not confident in the heat department. The newer netbooks w/ GS40[?] like the 1005HA all have fans.Umm, netbooks can easily run fan-less... In fact, Dell's first few models didn't have a fan, I dunno if the current ones do. Their heatsink was basically a big flat metal plate that sat under the keyboard. I set the fan on my Aspire One to not kick in 'till it reaches 65C IIRC (with a1ctl) and under AC it usually doesn't (tends to hover at right around 60C) unless I leave it on for hours... The NB/IGP actually runs much hotter than the Atom, so if anything, the fan's in there to cool that down (as they often share the same heatsink).
My experience - MSI Wind, EEEPC 1000HA, NC10 can get pretty damn hot. No one else taking the step into fanless territory after Dell is a good indication that they're not confident in the heat department. The newer netbooks w/ GS40[?] like the 1005HA all have fans.
What are the chances of this timeline playing diablo 3? The su9400 version.
799 for 8 hours + 9400+ SSD drive aint too bad. Saw the other versions at fry's and i love the thinness.
Who honestly enjoys playing FPS on 13" screens or smaller anyway? Do you whip out the mini-mouse while waiting at the airport or in the middle of a study session at the library? If you need a LAN machine you can build a much more powerful mATX rig for the same amount of money... Stick to more laid back games otherwise imo. Personally I enjoy stuff like World of Goo, old SNES games on an emulator, and Civ on my netbook.
Absolutely, I mean, even an Atom can do that.
Look, forget the Atom.
"Can this thing run Word/Excel 2007 and a web browser competently?"
Ask yourself: can a P4 or an Athlon 64 run it?
Single-core or not it's still a Core 2, i.e. it kicks the living shit out of that puny Atom.
So the answer is: YES.
It just has some trouble with 1080p playback, with it being single-core and all.
She bought the Timeline because her Atom-based netbook was too slow for her. So, that's why I ask.
Well, the Atom is plenty for the web and word processing, so either you're mis-representing her needs or she was putting unnecessary loads on it with background apps, a bad AV app, etc.
It could have been bad AV software, as her university forces McAfee on every computer that connects to their network. But given the nature of what she needs to do, the culprit was probably multitasking.
That's my guess. I've never used McAfee, but if it's half as bad as Norton was the last time I used it 3-4 years ago I wouldn't touch it with... anything.
Even Nod32 bogged down the Core 2 machines at school. We were all waiting for visual basic to load and wondering why it was so slow. Then we realized it was scheduled to scan right in the middle of our class. I couldn't believe that it had that much effect on a dual core system.
Norton has gotten increasingly better in that regard, in fact it's probably better than anything else right as far as not taking up too many resources and working around the user. The bad rap it developed a few years ago is really the only thing going against it right now (much like Vista).
It only uses something like 8MB of RAM, automatically kills scans when the user is actively working on the system (unless the system has gone w/o a scan for too long, even then it gives them lower priority), etc. etc. It's probably the best solution for the casual user in this regard, and it's detection marks are pretty good too from what I've seen.
Also, like with the SU2700 people are getting confussed thinking it might suck because its a single core. Like others have noted I believe just in this thread, that doesn't mean much. At least for the realm of ultraportable notebook/netbooks. The things you'll be expecting/should be expecting from these, shouldn't detail things like burning something while typing in word while having a browser up with 10+ tabs, etc. That's really not the point of these notebook/netbook builds.
Just my two cents and some =P
I dunno, people are expecting more and more out of these systems all the time... And the SU2700 is in more of a gray area than anything else. Being a single-core would make just as much of a difference as any of the other stuff you quoted that would affect the perception towards a netbook, it can mean smooth playback while having other crap open or not, etc. Dunno why you'd dismiss that but not those other factors...