Left for Dead 2? Already?

To be frank, I'm a little concerned about the repercussions of this preemptive boycott. It seems to send the message that we aren't happy (good) and that nothing Valve can do in the next five months is going to change that (not good). In other words, it seems to imply that we're all simply done with Valve and that they needn't worry about this hardcore PC gamer market any longer, as we've already jumped the metaphorical fence. Instead, shouldn't the message be "we're mad as hell, so what are you going to do to fix this?"

Honestly, I feel that is the message being sent. I don't feel like anyone is saying they can't fix it, but rather that with the limited amount of time given their alleged release date, it will not be a product worth a full-game price. I think the best thing they could do at this point is to release it at an expansion pack price. I have a feeling that they are going to do some sort of package deal where you get L4D and L4D2 for $50 or whatever. This doesn't work for me, either, since I've already purchased L4D twice, once at full price on release and once at half price on a sale. I don't need a third copy sitting around.

In any case, the pricing is mostly what is going to determine if and when I buy this product. I dislike that they have given so little attention to L4D, but at the same time I understand them wanting to change up the dynamic a bit, which does not fit into the original L4D style at all.
 
I can't help but assume troll at this point.

Because i disagree with you im trolling? Winning logic there, "we dont see eye to eye and obviously im right so he must be a troll"

CSS is the "WoW" of FPS its bland, comfortable and anyone can play it. Its not the groundbreaking masterpiece some people like claiming.
 
Because i disagree with you im trolling? Winning logic there, "we dont see eye to eye and obviously im right so he must be a troll"

CSS is the "WoW" of FPS its bland, comfortable and anyone can play it. Its not the groundbreaking masterpiece some people like claiming.

I think you are trolling because you assume low system requirements = popularity. Look at games from the same year that were considered great as well and look at how many people still play those online.

Starcraft has low system requirements and still has a large following, is that because it's a bland & comfortable game that anyone can play?
 
Still gonna buy it...


Who's with me?
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I'm with you

I love L4D despite its lack of content it still has such a high replay value because every time I play its still different especially the online survival modes. Shooting zombies never gets old for me.
 
I think you are trolling because you assume low system requirements = popularity. Look at games from the same year that were considered great as well and look at how many people still play those online.

Starcraft has low system requirements and still has a large following, is that because it's a bland & comfortable game that anyone can play?

Look up the definition of trolling. :rolleyes:

Im not saying that low sys requirements always means popularity im just saying thats partly the case with CS. That and the fact that its a generic bland shooter anyone can get into easily. No ranks to move up no weapons to unlock just start the game pick a server and start killing people.

Make all the stupid comparisons you want its unrelated to my point about CS.
 
Look up the definition of trolling. :rolleyes:

Im not saying that low sys requirements always means popularity im just saying thats partly the case with CS. That and the fact that its a generic bland shooter anyone can get into easily. No ranks to move up no weapons to unlock just start the game pick a server and start killing people.

Make all the stupid comparisons you want its unrelated to my point about CS.

Dude, if you think CS is something anyone can get into easily you must not have played it lately. I used to play it religiously, and a couple nights ago I got onto it on a friends computer just play a round or two and instead spent 30 minutes getting my ass handed to me. It's not as easy as just picking a server and killing people, and that is, at least partly, the draw.
 
Back on topic:) Who else joined the boycott? Hope Valve gets the message. Doubt it though they have plenty of console kids to exploit for cash.
 
No boycock for me. I loved everything about L4D it fell short only due to the endless possible improvements, which hopefully some of them are encompassed in L4D2.

While I see the point of the boycock I want another L4D game as I am just about bored with the first one and really like the game.
 
Coming out Nov. 17 2009
What a wounderful Birthday gift they are giving me!
I Loved L4D, but after 400 hours of playing it got really old. Not enough content. I now understand the reason for the lack, they gave us just enough to make sure we would buy L4D 2. How crafty of you Valve, you have won this round.
 
25k members now, i make that about $1.25 Million in lost profits as a "full priced game"

No.

Also, how many people who signed the boycott were *definitely* going to buy L4D2 but aren't because it's coming so soon with so little? What you're doing is akin to trying to place a "loss" value on piracy. Can't be done, so stop trying :/
 
This boycott isn't just going to affect L4D2, but >ANY< game Valve releases that will be primarily multiplayer.
 
I just wish Valve would continue work on Half Life 2 Ep. 3. How about Portal 2?

It seems to me that they are just focusing on "What can make us the most money?" Which...would be releasing a cross-platform L4D2.
 
No.

Also, how many people who signed the boycott were *definitely* going to buy L4D2 but aren't because it's coming so soon with so little? What you're doing is akin to trying to place a "loss" value on piracy. Can't be done, so stop trying :/

Why would you sign something if you had no intention of buying it in the first place?

There is definately a price, you cant work it out down to the penny but you can get a rough idea. Don't forget people who are boycotting are mostly fans, people who WOULD buy more L4D content if it was released in an acceptable way.

You have to care to sign the boycott

So no, it's not a strictly accurate amount, but it's a good indicator.
 
Look up the definition of trolling. :rolleyes:

Im not saying that low sys requirements always means popularity im just saying thats partly the case with CS. That and the fact that its a generic bland shooter anyone can get into easily. No ranks to move up no weapons to unlock just start the game pick a server and start killing people.

Make all the stupid comparisons you want its unrelated to my point about CS.

IMO, If i wanted to level I'd play an RPG. Shooter games where you don't unlock good weapons til you put 40+ hours into them are pretty gay. This is why CS still holds its ground. My PC can play anything on the market ATM, but I don't play these "level-up" shooters.
 
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