Cheap 8 core! Dell Small Business has the PowerEdge SC1430 Tower Server Dual Quad Core Xeon 5310 1.6Ghz 2x4MB Cache 1GB/80GB, No CD, 1yr warranty, No OS $729 shipped free. Ends Soon
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Looks like this bad boy could be fun to tweak:
http://www.techanswerguy.com/2007/09/setting-up-dell-sc1430.html
To be honest, not that great. Folding productivity on current hardware simply isn't scaling well beyond four cores, probably due to bandwidth issues. I'll be interested to see how much, if any, the larger cache .45nm procs will boost F@H performance. Whatever the reason, though, right now the best bang/buck for Folding is a fast single quad.I wonder how it folds
Wow, someone reported that an 8800GT worked in the modded slot. It's hard to buy it as a gaming system though. Faster CPUs raise the price significantly at Dell and modding the 1.6GHz to 1333MHz FSB only gets you to 2GHz.Looks like this bad boy could be fun to tweak:
http://www.techanswerguy.com/2007/09/setting-up-dell-sc1430.html
The BSEL "pad mod" has been met with much success by many.Looks like this bad boy could be fun to tweak:
http://www.techanswerguy.com/2007/09/setting-up-dell-sc1430.html
I wonder how it folds
That's because the FAH SMP client is only aware of 4 threads. Easy way to solve this problem: two instances of the SMP client. If you bought the 1.86ghz E5320s ($150 upgrade to $879) and used the pad mod to overclock them to 2.3ghz, this system would produce over 5000 ppd.To be honest, not that great. Folding productivity on current hardware simply isn't scaling well beyond four cores, probably due to bandwidth issues. I'll be interested to see how much, if any, the larger cache .45nm procs will boost F@H performance. Whatever the reason, though, right now the best bang/buck for Folding is a fast single quad.
Yea, the lack of x16 PCIe makes it tough to justify as a gaming system.Wow, someone reported that an 8800GT worked in the modded slot. It's hard to buy it as a gaming system though. Faster CPUs raise the price significantly at Dell and modding the 1.6GHz to 1333MHz FSB only gets you to 2GHz.
I was tempted by this system earlier, but I have no idea what I'd use it for.
Assuming the right mix of WUs, yes. Throw in a bandwidth sucking WU into the mix and its a different story.That's because the FAH SMP client is only aware of 4 threads. Easy way to solve this problem: two instances of the SMP client. If you bought the 1.86ghz E5320s ($150 upgrade to $879) and used the pad mod to overclock them to 2.3ghz, this system would produce over 5000 ppd.
Dual Quad 2.33GHz running 2x WinSMP
P2653 @ ~12.25min frame = 2070PPD
P2651 @ ~12.5min frame = 2025PPD
Total ~4100PPD
P2653
1ea LinSMP: ~1575 PPD
2ea LinSMP: ~3100 PPD (1550 PPD AVG/CLIENT)
3ea LinSMP: ~4300 PPD (1433 PPD AVG/CLIENT)
4ea LinSMP: ~5100 PPD (1275 PPD AVG/CLIENT)
Thanks for the info. I was running off secondhand information, which was apparently somewhat incorrect. And I think this discussion is relevant to the threadAssuming....
EDIT: apologies for the thread hijack.
That's the biggest hurdle I'm jumping now. I really don't need another box hanging around... I could even deal with a 4U rack'd deal much easier than a box...Damn, too bad this wasn't rackmount
That's the biggest hurdle I'm jumping now. I really don't need another box hanging around... I could even deal with a 4U rack'd deal much easier than a box...
I haven't touched one of the boxes for awhile, but since they're 2.33GHz B3 quads, I'm guessing they're SL9YL.Lupine-
Were your tests above done on a 1333mhz fsb?
If not, the BSEL pad mod would help with some of the bandwidth limitations you mentioned.
I dunno. Its pretty barebones, so you're going to be adding a CD/DVD drive, more (or replacement) HDDs and more (or replacement) memory at the very least. And you're saddling yourself w/ the slowest versions of the previous gen Xeons. Also factor in that the price-point for the new Harpertown procs is lower across the board w/ the *low* end E5405 2GHz version w/ 12mb L2 @ ~$250 (Newegg Harpertowns). That's where I'm probably going to be looking for my next server build.
So yes, if it has the components that you want out of the box, its a pretty good deal. Otherwise, I'd recommend pricing out some options to see if you're really ahead w/ this deal.
Tempting... only thing stopping me is not being able to stick a large video card in here like a 640 GTS or GTX...
If it helped Supreme Commander out enough I would probably jump on it.
Not suggesting you should in a pro setting. But, for the home/SMB user who doesn't mind some tweaking/maintenance, maybeI haven't touched one of the boxes for awhile, but since they're 2.33GHz B3 quads, I'm guessing they're SL9YL.
Regardless, going around and doing physical mods production systems isn't going to happen.
Agreed. For a critical server system, look elsewhere. For those who have a few bucks to play with that might want a potentially mod-able 8 core server, this is money.I dunno. Its pretty barebones, so you're going to be adding a CD/DVD drive, more (or replacement) HDDs and more (or replacement) memory at the very least. And you're saddling yourself w/ the slowest versions of the previous gen Xeons. Also factor in that the price-point for the new Harpertown procs is lower across the board w/ the *low* end E5405 2GHz version w/ 12mb L2 @ ~$250 (Newegg Harpertowns). That's where I'm probably going to be looking for my next server build.
So yes, if it has the components that you want out of the box, its a pretty good deal. Otherwise, I'd recommend pricing out some options to see if you're really ahead w/ this deal.
Tempting... only thing stopping me is not being able to stick a large video card in here like a 640 GTS or GTX...
If it helped Supreme Commander out enough I would probably jump on it.
Agreed. Seems SupCom can only use around 4 threads.It wouldn't. I've tried Supreme Commander with the Skulltrail and compared it to a 780i SLI system. It wasn't any faster.
That's the model for this industry and others these days. Basically give away the base model but make the margins on the upgrades/add onsI love the price of a TB drive...
dell makes a KILLING off of those suckers