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Your PS3 should have already had purpose as the Folding client has been around for a while.
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Need help deciding between PS3 and 360
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Your PS3 should have already had purpose as the Folding client has been around for a while.
Sixthsense
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In all seriousness ,out with the old in with the new. The dvd medium is over a decade old.Do you believe it's going to survive for another decade? or even half? Time for old and busted to move on out and for the new hotness to move in
In all serious ,out with the old in with the new. The dvd medium is over a decade old.Do you believe it's going to survive for another decade? or even half? Time for old and busted to move on out and for the new hotness to move in
Is Blu-Ray going to survive another decade? Is the format war over? Blu-Ray is a gamble for a video game console. Sony may have sacrificed the PS3 to have Blu-Ray be successful as a HD media format. Coming out as late as they did really hurt them this time. The cost the Blu-Ray brought to the console pushed its price past the point of consideration for many people. Remember that as the format war drags on between Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, the stand alone players are going to keep becoming cheaper and cheaper, taking the PS3 out of the loop as a primary Blu-Ray player purchase. Fast-forward about 5 to 6 years into the future, the format war may be winding down, and the next generation of consoles will begin to come to light. At that time, the companies can choose the winner for their console. Now, IF HD-DVD wins out, not that I think it will, but if it did, all that gamble will have been for naught. Where as Microsoft didn't gamble. Their future console will read 360 DVD games no matter what format they choose to go to at that point.
As the cost of blueray comes down it makes sense that the cost of the playstation 3 will also come down. Props to sony for pushing inovation. I rather have all my game on one disc and uncompressed than crammed onto multiple 9gig dvds and compressed and watered down. I can only imagine what games like SOTC would have been like had they 50gigs to work with as well as a hard drive as standard. Sony has balls and that's good for the consumer in this case. Now we have two options. As Sixthsense said you can hang with the old and busted or the new hotness. Yay for competition.
In my world more space is always a good thing.
In my world more space is always a good thing.
Sixthsense
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While the burners and media for Blu-Ray are still expensive. It's a good sign it's here to stay. I don't see any sign of HD-DVD burners at Fry's or any B&M store. I think the prices for these consoles are chicken feed opposed to what we pay on video cards . MS gambled as much as Sony by rushing the 360 out the door. Was it worth it? (with all the bricked consoles and numerous manufacturing flaws in the 1st generation of 360's) it's debateable depending how you look at it.As for Blu-Ray BC media compatibility. Last I checked PS2 uses DVD media? PS3's Blu-ray reader isn't bound to Blu-Ray media only.
Also how many 360 owners can honestly say they can leave their 360 un-attended not worrying their 360 will overheat in more then a 24 hour period?
no sorry you're right, its my mistake, maybe my english was not clear enough
I AM leaning towards the 360 becuase it has better games the part in italics is the description of why i am leaning towards the 360.
i know its not clear enough but honestly cant any person with more than two brain cells realise that i was reasoning my choice of getting the 360 with my opinion after? if only posted: the 360 has better games then i could understand how it would translate to another person across a forum but i didnt...
anyways look at my last few posts, i have said positive things about the ps2 and do you think i could get the system i have and be scammed out of £1500 (in sig) if i was poor?
You seem to have missed the point of my posting that sentence. It was to show my regrets about blue-ray. There are 2 posts concerning my statement and neither one addresses what the point was. The point was: I think blue-ray was a good choice. I think it has viable benefits for the PS3 beyond watching movies. I thought the added cost was worth the benefit it gives the system. If you are sighting the PS2 did you think that including a DVD drive was a mistake? At the time it was once again being accused of shoving a standard down our throats. It did have advantages over CD-ROMs though.I included the speed regrets to demonstrate that I am not looking at the PS3 through rose colored glasses. I am not trying to say I am not Bias because clearly I am I own a PS3 and I would like more people to share the experiance.
OT: Hey Ub3rn00b, my XFPS PRO shipped
Sweet...let me know how well it works.
In other news, my XBOX 360 is one year old today. Just 9 days after my daughter turns one!. Yes, 9 days after she was born I bought a 360 because i was spending so much money on everything in the world for her so i just decided I wouldn't miss the 399 in addition to everything else.
I fully expect the 360 to go to out on me tomorrow at about 12:01am. I don't say this because I think it's got a high failure rate. I say this because I have bad luck.
Hmm, at $360 USD annually to run Folding (not to mention the 0.2 tonnes of carbon emissions it'd be responsible for), it's not an activity I'm able to engage in right now.
Sixthsense
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OT:Ahh man don't say that lol we must create xfps clan for R6. I read you got seargent, man I'm slacking
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In all honesty I would probably pick up a PS3 over a 360 right now if I were choosing to actually buy one.
I already have an X360 so I guess that point is moot but if I didn't have a 360 I would probably pick up a PS3...and most likely still will eventually.
That being said my reasons are more personal than others.
These are all huge pluses for me:
- Blu-Ray built in is big for me, I LOVE watching movies and of course HD is the best so bam there it is
- Wireless built in is awesome for gaming and for browsing if need be
- Ability to install Linux is very cool so I can run some basic computer things without having my laptop in my living room
- Ability to install any hard drive is awesome because fuck anything below 100GB and fuck paying more than 70 cents a gig for it.
- Free Internet play is a huge plus for me on a console because I don't do it often enough to be willing to pay for it....even if customer service is less than amazing as I guess XBL is.
But my reasons for the system are going to be different than many gamers. I don't play my console everyday as thats what I do on my computer. I play when friends are over but mainly I would use it has my all-around entertainment center. Streaming, Movie watching, internet browsing etc etc
So those are my reasons
i have similar reasons why i chose the 360 for my media stuff. my ps3 is nice and all, but to me it pales in comparison to the 360. streaming is better, using it as an extender is excellent, and hd-dvd looks beautiful. im not gonna buy the ps3 remote, so right now im using the ctrl as a remote and it feels wierd. thank you sony for not putting a 50 cent ir receiver in the system so i have to buy a $40 remote...
I'm quite happy with the media steaming on the PS3, as of today's 1.80 firmware. (Using something like Nero Mediahome means you can transcode anything to your PS3.)
I still think the 360 has the edge there, but it's a big improvement.
Neither of you guys have looked into ps3 linux with vlc and mplayer have you? It's almost just as good as xbmc and xbmc blows the 360 away.
The streaming on the PS3 is fine, especially with the new update.
And having the Disc drive inside is way better than having that add-on IMO
And you forgot to mention Wireless, free online play, linux and using any hard drive I want which are all things with the exception of wireless for more money the XBOX can't do.
But the xbox does do an ok job at being a media center on its own I guess. You plunk down the $200 for the HDDVD and it costs nearly the same though at retail and I think you get more on the PS3....not looking at games heavily because the 360 obviously wins that hands down right now
The last time I checked Linux on the PS3 (some time around launch) it ran like crap. (I think the 256MB of RAM might have had something to do with it, but I might be wrong.) Has anything changed since then?
Secondly, it's never going to be as pretty or as easy to use as the media functionality built into the dashboard/XMB. I don't want to have to plug in a keyboard or get close to my TV to watch a movie from my server. I don't want to have to screw around with configuring network shares to make sure I can access files from Linux. If I wanted to do that I could build a smaller, prettier PC to do the same thing and more.
I guess it all depends on you. Many consumers aren't familiar with things like linux and samba and don't care much about em to them things should be plug and play from the store. I understand that.
However, If you're an uber geek and have used xbmc on the xbox where all you do is setup shares on your server and stream away (no transcode on the fly, potential loss of quality bs) then you'll be all over setting up a stripped down light weight ppc linux distro with a simple, clean, front end as the "other os." Nothing like streaming Planet Earth HD from a 6TB server over your home-network to your ps3.
Ok, lets not start the "Which high def disc format WILL win" arguement (I can only imagine thats why you brought up burners in this conversation). That involves alot more than just talking about who's burner just hit the shelves. Personally, I think Blu-Ray will most likely win, its not set in stone yet. I personally don't care which wins. I'll buy when there is a winner. There is no cuppi doll for early adopters. The competition will have driven the price down by the time I am ready to buy. I should be able to pick up a nice HD format player for around $100-$200 then. Meanwhile, I'm perfectly happy with DVDs for probably 95% of my movie collection.
Well, its pretty safe to say at this point that whatever gamble the 360 made, it has paid off. The 360 sales are very steady right now. The same can't really be said for the PS3 at the moment. PS3 sales are falling and they are losing former exclusives left and right. If you can paint that as something that is good for Sony's bottom line, I'd like to see you try. Say what you want about the manufacturing quality, 360s are still moving off the shelves at a steady rate. For me, this is just great, it means that I'll be able to play many of these former exclusives on my 360, and the price of the PS3 is going to have to drop to increase sales and that means I'll have be able to pick up one for much cheaper later, probably even $300 for a used unit by that point. Then I can play the Sony first party games and, with that latest firmware upgrade, play my old PS2 games with some better image quality.
I think you misunderstood what I was talking about when I talked about compatability. Of course Blu-Ray drives read DVDs, but IF HD-DVD does succeed, will the PS4 have a hybrid Blu-Ray/HD-DVD drive? Blu-Ray drives don't read HD-DVDs, right? The next Microsoft system after the 360 can pick from either Blu-Ray or HD-DVD and not need to include a more expensive drive for BC with the 360.
I would only be worried about my 360 overheating if I left it in a confined space with no ventilation for that amount of time . . . frankly, I would be worried if I left any heat producing electronic device in a similar situation.
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This so called war for exclusives is long gone and over.MS has access nearly all the 3rd party developers that were exclusive to the PS3and now developing for the 360. This is about implementation and execution. It's all in the hands of the devlopers , we will have to sit and play the waiting game. Wondering what version will be better.
Maintaining next gen quality with games such as Gears comes at a price and that is space due to texture streaming. The reason why Gears of War was a 6 hour game minus the achievements in SP mode. Expect alot of multiplayer games with short single player modes.
Maintaining next gen quality with games such as Gears comes at a price and that is space due to texture streaming. The reason why Gears of War was a 6 hour game minus the achievements in SP mode. Expect alot of multiplayer games with short single player modes.
I'll give it to you, thats a good point, but did the inclusion of the Blu-Ray drive, and the delays and increased cost to the system, cause the system to lose its chance a market dominance? I think so. Actually, thats not fair, it wasn't only the Blu-Ray drive. The Cell chip also cost them more time and production headaches as well as the shipment of dev kits late to the developers and poor support to the developers.
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I believe I stated in another thread. We had so many like this
Sony is playing the catchup game.I believe the large contributing factor for the success of the 360 is their excellent matchmaking service and their large user base over Xbox Live (even though it's a paid subscription, it's very well organized).I believe I stated in another thread. We had so many like this
That is true. but I'm skeptical that Sony is going to be able to catch up this round. I think Nintendo really stole the thunder of the PS3 launch. If Sony is pissed at anyone in the industry, they should be pissed at Nintendo. Once the Japanese developers started moving multiplatform, Sony lost their dominance in the next gen market.
XBL is a very simple and nice format. It does adhere to the KISS philosophy. I think that is a good part of their success also. I think the other part is their developers tools and support. This is no surprise comming from Microsoft. They are a software company. Providing tools to work with their platform is part of their normal business. They must love working with the 360 because its a closed system and they don't have to support anyone else's internal hardware for a change.