Yep, Data plans were why I switched over to Sprint. EDGE is just waaaay too slow.
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Finally! The iPhone!
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I believe EDGE is 2.5G, not even close to WCDMA or CDMA2000 or whatever the two rival 3G technologies are called.
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499 or 599 for the 4gb or 8gb versions.
I agree that we need a version with a hardrive. I run 8 miles every day with my ipod Photo (30gb), DJ with it 3x a week at nightclubs and have dropped it countless times (during a read, or even a write operation once) to no ill effect. Dropping it off of a stage (8-12 feet) roughly once a month...
My cellphone is in better condition than my iPod... and that's saying something.
Yet, the ipod's totally fine. These things are tanks.
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Not for me. I went through 2 iPods in 1 year, both to hard drive failures. One stopped working, the other a bad sector. I personally haven't had an iPod now for about 5 months because I am a little sceptical about buying one since my wife bought one that was brand new in the box, or at least she thought she was getting brand new since it was factory sealed , and found a nice scratched up and very dirty refurbished one in the box
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The thing i sorta find cool about it is that it will probably have updates unlike normal cell phones .. thus new features can be added ... plug it in and iTunes will install updates and new features just like the 5G had
I haven't seen the Keynote so I'm not sure if this was covered there
1 cool feature that I can think of is quick dial using finger gestures ... sorta like Mozilla ..
So if I do a hold down for 1 sec then a Z it calls my house ... something like that ..
The things it can do are limitless, no other cell phone out there allows you to update it's firmware so iPhone might just allow you to do that.
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Anybody notice this from the Apple site (the part in red)? Where can I see a picture of these? Are they stereo?
"iPhone uses quad-band GSM, the global standard for wireless communications. It also supports Cingulars EDGE network, 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth 2.0 with EDR, which links to Apples new, remarkably compact Bluetooth headset."
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html
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"iPhone uses quad-band GSM, the global standard for wireless communications. It also supports Cingulars EDGE network, 802.11b/g Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth 2.0 with EDR, which links to Apples new, remarkably compact Bluetooth headset."
http://www.apple.com/iphone/technology/wireless.html
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uhmm .. how compact ? in ear ? I mean it can't be that much smaller than the ones you can buy today .. i can imagine it's gonna be white to stand out so you can get mugged, history repeats itself
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ya but still... if i am driving, i cant just grab the phone and dial, i HAVE to look at it... on my current cell phone i can feel the little tab on the 5 so i know what i am pressing around it
also, cingular is the worst cellphone company by far
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the screen is pretty big and you can navigate your finger to an appropriate area with enough space to do the finger gesture ... you don't have to start at the middle .. know what i mean ?
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Besides, I'm sure there's probably a great voicedial ability in this thing. And I've been very happy with Cingular -they have had the best coverage for me in the Los Angeles area I've experienced. Not that there's any cellular company that stands-out as "great". They all mostly suck but I've had less problems with Cingular than any other...
This is the one thing I hate about current PDA / smartphones.
But, bluetooth headset + voice dialing is starting to grow on me. (just sucks in a noisey environment).
Actually, I did, and it was a $50 a month around 1000 minutes plan.
I have also talked to my friends that still have Tmobile and they get killed with roaming in my area as well....
It's black and pretty tiny.
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Since the phone is also an ipod, i want something like this .....
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177
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http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177
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Hot damn! I wonder how well the sound quality is on those things. I've heard that bluetooth isn't the highest bandwidth for more than simple audio...
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The Apple iPhone specs list "....Bluetooth 2.0 with EDR..." and the EDR stands for "Enhanced Data Rate" we can hope that the mysterious Apple bluetooth headphones also support this. The specs for the Motorola do not mention this support?
Good read on EDR here....
www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5514.html
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Guys look at the front page recently ?? Cisco is suing as we speak.... real talk... 
Apple and Cisco have no agreement on the use of the Iphone name it seems....
Apple and Cisco have no agreement on the use of the Iphone name it seems....
Guys look at the front page recently ?? Cisco is suing as we speak.... real talk...
Apple and Cisco have no agreement on the use of the Iphone name it seems....
Nothing has changed. Cisco says in that article that they're waiting for the signed agreement to be returned.
Consider this a kick in the ass to get the paperwork returned promptly.
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Do you think Apple will respond right away ? Ie: sign that 'agreement' ?
I think so. I think Apple would have already internally agreed to the contract before going public with that keynote.
Unless Steve Jobs is even more arrogant than I think he is, which is entirely possible.
I doubt this will go anywhere, though. These things rarely do, especially when between two behemoths like Apple and Cisco.
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now lets think about this...
the ipod nano, 8GB, is $250
a cell phone with the same (comparible) functionality is around $400
not to mention the other cool shit the iPhone can do...
$250 + $400 = $650 = holy crap more money than the iPhone for just an iPod nano + cell phone!
the iPhone = ~$600
the iPhone = the functionality of an iPod video, the space of the biggest iPod nano, and the functionalty of your phone (and then some....well...and then alot)
to sum it all up:
:insert jawdrop smiley here:
I have the Motorola HT820 Stereo Headphones, with audio controlls. Ausio is compressed, and you can choose the codec. Sound Quality is fine, some audiophiles may not like it. But I can't complain. I mean my phone is in my pocket and I can controll my music without touching it.
I don't think it is considering what its capable of. Plus if they lower the price much more they lose sales on the iPod.
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As far as I was able to tell, there is only one button on the entire phone.
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It has a virtual QWERTY keyboard the same as the Nintendo DS or a tablet PC in tablet mode can have a QWERTY keyboard.
Also to 4b5eN+EE : Apple themselves said their comparison was a 199$ 4Gig Nano + 299$ Smartphone, not 400$ smartphone as you stated.
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Ya but its software driven but thats ok.
Look guys about the multi-touch. I can tell you from experience that it will work VERY WELL. I would know....cause I have the touchpad product from the company that had the original patent they apple now owns.
its the igesture touchpad from fingerworks. Apple bought the company and stopped them from making any more touchpad mice for computers.
Its the size of my palm and I use it now to control a desktop. I can't use anything else really. And its so easy to use and poweful.
I just hope apple has some mercy and releases a desktop input device product that uses this tech. My igesture won't last forever.
Look guys about the multi-touch. I can tell you from experience that it will work VERY WELL. I would know....cause I have the touchpad product from the company that had the original patent they apple now owns.
its the igesture touchpad from fingerworks. Apple bought the company and stopped them from making any more touchpad mice for computers.
Its the size of my palm and I use it now to control a desktop. I can't use anything else really. And its so easy to use and poweful.
I just hope apple has some mercy and releases a desktop input device product that uses this tech. My igesture won't last forever.
Most pda phone has a virtual keyboard AND a slide out keypad, except the iphone.
Yes, and that is going to make it very hard to use, sure the navigation is easy, but try to drive and use a pda touch screen. Right now with my i730 I just can use the hot keys at the bottom, two - three clicks and im where I need to be.
Multitouch doesn't mean jack especially when you are driving, try using a keypad on screen on a 3.5" screen
Yes, unless if you have time to sit there to punch in numbers.
You think $200 more to buy the phone? I dream of that!! Try like $400-500 more. Remember, thier pricing was with a 2 year contract only, meaning that the phone will be significanly more money. Just try to buy a normal phone thats $100 on a two year contract, they would charge you in the neighborhood of $400 for it. If you want a good indication on the purchase price of phones, go on ebay, absolutley insane what people are paying.
The easiest way would be to pay the termination fee once you get a subscription, but I don't know what the terms will be with this phone, the termination may be much more.
One hundred fucking dollars a month!?!
Seriously, what's wrong with the rest of the world? It looks like cell phoning costs a fortune everywhere but Sweden.
Yes, cingular is very expensive. I can get a two line contract with more features and minutes for half that price of cingulars.
This whole deal stinks for me as I refuse to go to cingular, they are not the biggest and not the best network and it's been proven statistically. They are craptastic.
I think the end run the consumers will win as all the companies will jump heavily on the pda market. One thing apple didn't recon with is the power of the mobile industry, they are cut throat and well rehearsed. I'm not curious to see Audiovox and Samsungs next offerings to counter this phone.
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GSM phones have always been expensive.
North America only adopted it this century when it's been around long before that.
Buying phones straight out, contract free, was around $1000 USD and they had nothing that resembles what the iPhone can do. I'm sure the iPhone will go for around that price on Ebay cause that's probably the price of the unlocked, no contract, phone.
I'm sure many are gonna wait for the price to go down but there are a few million people out there that won't. The phone is beautiful and revolutionary. The rich people of the East don't have a problem dropping that much money on the phone.
North America only adopted it this century when it's been around long before that.
Buying phones straight out, contract free, was around $1000 USD and they had nothing that resembles what the iPhone can do. I'm sure the iPhone will go for around that price on Ebay cause that's probably the price of the unlocked, no contract, phone.
I'm sure many are gonna wait for the price to go down but there are a few million people out there that won't. The phone is beautiful and revolutionary. The rich people of the East don't have a problem dropping that much money on the phone.
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I'm a cingular subscriber with no complaints at the moment, so I don't mind that its Cingular exclusive. However, I would greatly like there to be an unlocked version, or would like to see if the iPhone can be unlocked by the...erudite and exploratory public
That said, what really bothers me is that its not 3G. This thing isn't going to sell until June. Apple needs to see the backlash that has been created on the web and realize that many of the great things you can do with it are infinitely more useful with a decent internet connection. That said, I also want to see some sort of removable memory. A mini or micro SD slot even. I can't imagine it would take up that much room.
Fix those two problems, and ensure the thing plays Apple Lossless and will accept easily converted video files (not from iTunes), and I've got one on the first day.
That said, what really bothers me is that its not 3G. This thing isn't going to sell until June. Apple needs to see the backlash that has been created on the web and realize that many of the great things you can do with it are infinitely more useful with a decent internet connection. That said, I also want to see some sort of removable memory. A mini or micro SD slot even. I can't imagine it would take up that much room.
Fix those two problems, and ensure the thing plays Apple Lossless and will accept easily converted video files (not from iTunes), and I've got one on the first day.
Yeah, I believe you are right. It's going to be at least 1k+ to buy it outright... I remember my phone was.
Well this phone is targeted towards business folks (afterall, not many low end consumers will be able to buy this phone) and they will be forced to jot down a note on the fly or type something up... and they don't have to be driving, their attention can be somewhere else.
I'm a cingular subscriber with no complaints at the moment, so I don't mind that its Cingular exclusive. However, I would greatly like there to be an unlocked version, or would like to see if the iPhone can be unlocked by the...erudite and exploratory public
That said, what really bothers me is that its not 3G. This thing isn't going to sell until June. Apple needs to see the backlash that has been created on the web and realize that many of the great things you can do with it are infinitely more useful with a decent internet connection. That said, I also want to see some sort of removable memory. A mini or micro SD slot even. I can't imagine it would take up that much room.
Fix those two problems, and ensure the thing plays Apple Lossless and will accept easily converted video files (not from iTunes), and I've got one on the first day.
Yes the SD slot or the lack of any slot is a dissapointment, it's going to be a PITA to get data on the phone without the data plan (You'd be forced to use wifi)
It is closed? I thought they mentioned you can install your own proggies? Someone clarify please... if it is closed then thats just going to blow.