My AMD story

ScYcS

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With all the Conroe hype going on I'd thought i share my AMD story with everyone. Maybe others have similar stories.

It all began when 286 computers were the cream of the crop. I purchased my first IBM compatible computer. Of course it was an Intel. Intel was pretty much the only thing to get in those days. Not that i knew better back then.
Well, time passed and the 386 was born. I was eager to upgrade to this rediculously fast machine. My mind was set and money was put aside every chance i got. 386 processors advanced (albeit at a much slower rate than the processors as of today) and the days of the 386SX/12 came and went. the 386DX/25 came and went. And then, one day i had enough money. I went to my local computer store (e-tailer? What's that????) and put my $1800 on the table (and boy, was that a lot of money back then!).

My fellow computer store owner said that it would not be enough for the newest of the newest, the Intel 386DX/50. A little upset and determined to get a rocket as a computer, i asked for options. That was the first time i heard of a company called "AMD". The store owner said he could built a 386DX/40 for only $1600. I was psyched. 2 weeks later i received my system. Upon first bootup, i was confused. I clearly said 386DX/40 but where was the Intel logo (actually since there was no real graphics to speak of, the logo was simply text)??? But hey, it said AMD.....wtf?
I went back to the store and explained my dilemma. I clearly wanted an IBM compatible computer and this was clearly some 3rd party imitation. Well, long story short, the guy explained to me who AMD was and what they did. I learned some things about Cyrix also, but never owned a Cyrix processor.

From there on, it was smooth sailing. AMD 386DX4/100. WOW. I bought a Tseng ET4000 videocard and was king of the hill. Can you believe my videocard had a whopping 512K of memory? Unheard of. It was VGA baby!

What followed was the step back to my first Pentium computer, an Intel P90. AMD had no equivalent and I just couldn't wait any longer. A Matrox Mystique was Video top notch for me. Nothing came close!

Another round for Intel. A PIII600 replaced my P90. Again, AMD had not much to offer. The first Gigahertz AMD was still far off. I had a 3D card. Friends could not believe what they saw. It was bliss for gaming. Best times ever with the internet still young, BBS calls made to people I've never met before, then met and bonded with. Internet back then was not anonymous yet. We actually MET!

Then it happened: I believe it was 1999 that AMD released the K7 1000MHZ computer chip. I had to have it. 1 GHZ. Unbelievable. Intel? What's intel? I rushed to order a IWill KK266 board, a whopping 512MB of memory (for around $800 i believe) and the AMD K7 1000. I was the first guy in my town to have such a beast. Sickening fast, ripping through games that put everything else to shame. I missed work 4 times the week i got the processor. It was not only sickening fast, it made me sick not to use it at home, so i did the only sane thing: I called in sick and played and played.

1200MHZ was next. Same board, same memory, just a small upgrade. K7 all the way.

The P4 came out. First test showed disappointing results compared to my then AMD K7 1400. I overclocked it to 1475MHZ and the P4 with 1.6GHZ was not faster at all. No upgrade to Intel once again.

My next one was Intel. 2.4B (was it "B"??). It overclocked WAY too easy for me to pass it up. Geforce2 GTS 64MB baby! Hercules Brand. Cool unheard of Blue PCB. I fainted....and bought it.

Not much after that i fear....oh yeah. Got my first AMD64 about 1.5 years ago. It was a 3200+ (Newcastle). I skipped the 754 platform entirely. From there on, it passed stuff to my now in the right age son. He got the 3200+, i got a 3500+ Venice. He received the 3500+, i got a Opty 146 (o/c to 2.8) that I am typing on now.

Why am i telling this story? Because a new Cycle has come. The Opty goes to my son, together with DFI Ultra-D and 2 GB of mem. A new Cycle because after all these years of predominantely using AMD chips, I went and purchased a Core 2 Duo yesterday, due to arrive Thursday.

It was a great time with AMD and only because i go for now, doesn't mean i won't come back. See you soon and thanks for the fish!
 
Your Opteron at 2.8ghz wasn't fast enough for you? :D

Good luck and have fun! We'll get you back when "K8L" is released!
 
freeloader1969 said:
Your Opteron at 2.8ghz wasn't fast enough for you? :D

Good luck and have fun! We'll get you back when "K8L" is released!

As a matter of fact, no it wasn't. See my times as a gamer have slowed down. I'm not into the latest stuff anymore and I also slowly but surely can't compete in FPS games anymore since my reaction time is slowing down....now I'm more into Movie editing, sound editing and only game on the side, so a dual core will improve all that. And besides.....I'm in the anonymous upgradoholics program.....it's more than half the fun of computers... ;) :D

By the way, all this made me think:

I wonder how many PC System sales are actually a direct result of the release of the following 5 games:

1. Sid Meier's Civilization (Microprose)
2. Sid Meier's Pirates! (Microprose)
3. F16 (Microprose)
4. Sim City (Maxis)
5. A-Train (whoever that was)

I know all (!!) my friends switched from their C64/Amiga/AtariST to the PC for one or the other of the above games....

On a side note, it's kind of cool to have been there when Windows was released, OS/2 was released and was better than windows at the time (and better in some regards up until Windows XP), the release of Dos 5.0, the Internet as we know it, the rise and fall of AOL etc. etc.

Sentimentally, I could say that, when i got my first "Computer" (Amstrad CPC464) in 1985, when i was 14, my life completely changed around and made my profession what it is now as well as it tought me english (I live in NY but grew up in germany). Heck, it even made me meet my wife since i was at her house fixing her computer.
 
ScYcS said:
As a matter of fact, no it wasn't. See my times as a gamer have slowed down. I'm not into the latest stuff anymore and I also slowly but surely can't compete in FPS games anymore since my reaction time is slowing down....now I'm more into Movie editing, sound editing and only game on the side, so a dual core will improve all that. And besides.....I'm in the anonymous upgradoholics program.....it's more than half the fun of computers... ;) :D

By the way, all this made me think:

I wonder how many PC System sales are actually a direct result of the release of the following 5 games:

1. Sid Meier's Civilization (Microprose)
2. Sid Meier's Pirates! (Microprose)
3. F16 (Microprose)
4. Sim City (Maxis)
5. A-Train (whoever that was)

I know all (!!) my friends switched from their C64/Amiga/AtariST to the PC for one or the other of the above games....


Hey now, I played 1, 2, and 4 on my A500, Civ AGA and Sim City 2000 on my uber l33tz0rz A1200. ;)
 
Your story was interesting; and one shared by many here. The kids agonizing over waiting for a price drop on the ridiculously fast modern CPUs don't recall when computers truly were expensive. I went the C64 / Atari ST STE TT / P90 route. That Quantex P90 cost $3K. Came with a whopping 16 megs of memory. So when someone here goes wild because they saved $35 on an opteron, ya gotta chuckle...
 
Good stuff, ScYcS. Your story brought back a lot of memory for me, as well.


Dennis Gordon said:
Your story was interesting; and one shared by many here. The kids agonizing over waiting for a price drop on the ridiculously fast modern CPUs don't recall when computers truly were expensive. I went the C64 / Atari ST STE TT / P90 route. That Quantex P90 cost $3K. Came with a whopping 16 megs of memory. So when someone here goes wild because they saved $35 on an opteron, ya gotta chuckle...

Hey, I purchased the same system from Quantex. It was the fall of 1994 when I placed the order. It came with a P90 CPU, massiave 1 GB HDD, 16 MB RAM, 4X Sony CDROM, MAG 17" .26 monitor, and a Cirrus Logic video card with 2 MB of RAM. I paid a little over $3000 for that sytem and had a lot of fun with it. I still remember going to Target and picking up a copy of DOOM the day I got it.
 
Yep. Same Mag monitor. Same package. I think Quantex went out of business a coupla years later. I still have that machine sitting somewhere in our server room. I may have to fire it up... if I can find an AT keyboard
 
Speaking of older systems, I still have (packed away) the old Amdek 386-16 system I bought used back in the early 90's. 2 mb ram, 256k Trident video card, 40mb Seagate ST251 (40ms - wasn't the 251-1 28ms hdd), 14" Amdek color monitor and DOS 3.3. Got it used for $1600. That was a fun machine. I really learned how to write DOS batch files on that old baby. Generic Cadd 5.0 ran really well on it. The only problem it had was a keyboard chord with ends similar to phone jack terminals. I think the keyboard chord finally gave out and I couldn't find a replacement. One day I'll get it back out and see if the old girl still works.
 
Dennis Gordon said:
The kids agonizing over waiting for a price drop on the ridiculously fast modern CPUs don't recall when computers truly were expensive.

QFT.

The first "modern" computer I purchased was a Mac LCII. It supported 16-bit color, a floppy drive, 250MB(?) HD, and had an external CD-ROM reader. Guess how much all that cost? Slightly over $5,000. I was making payments on that thing for a long time.

As the wise say, buy what you need when you need it. Things change too fast to worry about waiting for the next best thing.
 
ScYcS said:
As a matter of fact, no it wasn't. See my times as a gamer have slowed down. I'm not into the latest stuff anymore and I also slowly but surely can't compete in FPS games anymore since my reaction time is slowing down....now I'm more into Movie editing, sound editing and only game on the side, so a dual core will improve all that. And besides.....I'm in the anonymous upgradoholics program.....it's more than half the fun of computers... ;) :D

By the way, all this made me think:

I wonder how many PC System sales are actually a direct result of the release of the following 5 games:

1. Sid Meier's Civilization (Microprose)
2. Sid Meier's Pirates! (Microprose)
3. F16 (Microprose)
4. Sim City (Maxis)
5. A-Train (whoever that was)

I know all (!!) my friends switched from their C64/Amiga/AtariST to the PC for one or the other of the above games....

On a side note, it's kind of cool to have been there when Windows was released, OS/2 was released and was better than windows at the time (and better in some regards up until Windows XP), the release of Dos 5.0, the Internet as we know it, the rise and fall of AOL etc. etc.

Sentimentally, I could say that, when i got my first "Computer" (Amstrad CPC464) in 1985, when i was 14, my life completely changed around and made my profession what it is now as well as it tought me english (I live in NY but grew up in germany). Heck, it even made me meet my wife since i was at her house fixing her computer.

i will personally say that f-16 and the mechwarrior games forced me to spend entirely too much money on a video card back then, a video card that now sits in my pile of vintage parts that i can't bear to let go because of the sentiments and money spent

PS OP, kudos on the matrox mystique, i had one and loved it (mostly) even had the little ram upgrade board for it, though after a while i tacked a voodoo 2 onto it...heh remember when voodoo cards and amd processors were the gamers choice ;)
 
freeloader1969 said:
Your Opteron at 2.8ghz wasn't fast enough for you? :D

Good luck and have fun! We'll get you back when "K8L" is released!

My dual 2.8GHz Opteron system wasn't fast enough for me. :)

I also had the mighty 2.4C and the Geforce 2 GTS 64MB. Though that video card actually was out during the higher end Pentium III days. Mine was a Hercules card and it kicked ass. I probably had it for about a year and a half. Longer than I've used any other card.
 
Same here with the hercules. I got mine for an ungodly $429.99. It's actually still running in one of my friends computers. That card was simply amazing.

However, there was a cold boot issue with the card on many people's setup and i became a board mod at www.3dxtreme.net and got quite some communication between me and the hercules guys.
 
ScYcS said:
Same here with the hercules. I got mine for an ungodly $429.99. It's actually still running in one of my friends computers. That card was simply amazing.

However, there was a cold boot issue with the card on many people's setup and i became a board mod at www.3dxtreme.net and got quite some communication between me and the hercules guys.


I never had the cold boot problem. I finally sold my Geforce 2 GTS 64MB to this guy at work for $75. I think I bought a Geforce 3 Ti 500 to replace it. Then turn arouned fairly quickly and bought a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 when those came out.
 
Humph thats a load of crap. You only see a big difference because you went dual core. You where on a single core opteron, don't forget conroe is dual core. Would be cheaper to get a X2 3800+ and for less then 150 and not waist your money on a whole new over priced mobo ram and cpu all at once. Could have upgraded but hay its your money. It feels the same on both dual cores. Changed your life what a lie. Thats just my oppinion but Get real only 10% difference in benchmarks and none in the real world witch is a fact.

Nice waste. :)
 
Humph thats a load of crap. You only see a big difference because you went dual core. You where on a single core opteron, don't forget conroe is dual core. Would be cheaper to get a X2 3800+ and for less then 150 and not waist your money on a whole new over priced mobo ram and cpu all at once. Could have upgraded but hay its your money. It feels the same on both dual cores. Changed your life what a lie. Thats just my oppinion but Get real only 10% difference in benchmarks and none in the real world witch is a fact.

Nice waste. :)

Most games are gpu limited and have nothing to do with cpu speed. Wonder why I don't have a prob with my X1800XT on max oblivion settings on a 3800+ X2 at 2ghz even when I can get over 100fps+. When I get a OC of 3ghz out of it. There is no such thing as over 50% cpu useage in a game. Get a raptor, prob why your cpu is slow. Hard drive is always the most overlooked part, when its mostly the limit of a system. Not the cpu.
 
Didn't you read the OP? His son is getting his old rig. He needed to build a completely new system anyway, and he built the fastest out there.

He also said that he's less and less into gaming, and more and more into video editing and encoding. That just happens to be one area in which Conroe-based CPUs excel. So while games are GPU limited, he's starting to care less and less about them.

Finally, if you read his history of computers he's owned, he doesn't seem to fall into the bracket of value-conscious shoppers. He bought the AMD 1 GHz and 1.2 GHz CPUs when they were new; that'd be like buying an FX/EE processor today. He has the money, he enjoys building new computers, who are you to tell him his money was wasted?

Oh, and the only reason you don't see over 50% CPU in a game is because the game is single-threaded. 50% in taskman == 100% on one of your cores.
 
Little short history off the top of my head about my pc's....

1993(?)-1995 - Hand-me-down I got ....RadioShack TRS-80 Model III [monochrome display, 5-1/4" floppy bay but no drive, 64K RAM] (still working, in attic). Because it had no floppy drive, I typed out all the programs and messed around with them. This is how I learned BASIC , and quite well at that. Helped later with making DOS boot floppies for games

1995 - my 1st new pc. $2200 Micron HomeMPC [Pentium 75, 8MB SIMM ram (2 sticks), 540MB HDD, 15" CRT (13.1" view) 0.28mm, 4x Sanyo CD-ROM, floppy drive, MS mouse v1.0, Diamond Stealth 64DRAM ISA video card 2MB onboard (S3 Graphics), SoundBlaster 16. Still works, in attic

~1996 - obtained an additional pair of 4MB SIMMS for free as hand-me-down

~ 1997 - First time I cracked open case and upgraded something. Added a ZIP100 drive. Later I obtained a 4x4x32x Acer drive...created over 200 coasters in combination wtih Roxio (and I hated Roxio ever since).

~1999 - First real upgrade to my PC. Upgraded the P75 to a Evergreen AMD K6-2 at roughly 300Mhz

Added a 20GB HDD from Western Digital. Died within couple months. Was then replaced with a Seagate. Last time I ever bought a WD drive.

Later, 2 games forced me to upgrade the video card. Tomb Raider 3 and Quake 2. Lo and behold, my first vid-card purchase... $300 3Dfx Voodoo5 5500 *PCI* (find time that TombRaider3 and Q2 were released for time estimate of this event)

Within a few months, I sold my PCI version to my best buddy for $120 and then bought the AGP version....since I have built my first PC from the ground-up........being the...

DirectRon.com "Hydraulic" case, ABit VH6 mobo, Crucial 128MB ECC Buffered SDRAM PC133, PIII FCPGA 667Mhz, Plextor 12x10x32x (my first plextor - and the last time I ever bought anything but Plextor for my rigs)., 40GB Seagate HDD, Voodoo5 5500 AGP

Later, gave my Plexy to my best friend at the time, and got the 24x10x40 model

Then sometime 2002-2003 I built a new rig based on a Antec SX1040B case and the ABit KR7A-133RAID, AMD Athlon XP 1.7GHz, crucial 512MB SDRAM PC3200, 80GB Seagate, Plexy DVD burner 8x, ChainTech GeForce 5600 Ultra 128MB, ViewSonic 17" G70fmb, SoundBlaster Audigy Platinum.

Then I took out everything and put into a new case and gave to my GF (then upgraded in last few months RAM to 512MB x 2 .....and upgraded my best friend's PC to 512MB x 2 as well (they had 512mb bfore). I built my current system ...... A64 3000+ Venice-core, 512mb x 2 Crucial PC3200, 250GB Seagate, BFG nForce4Ultra mobo, BFG GeForce 6600GT OC 128MB PCI-Ex x16, Plexy 16x and 8x DVD burners and my 24xCDrw plexy.

Now that my system died (2006.June.05).....and got all components replaced, getting 1GB x 2 Crucial Ballistix Tracers...then another 2gb later.

Next in my mind is upgrading this sytem to the A64 X2 4200+ at a minimum and a GeForce 7600GT OC....will accomplish by next year.

Then A64 X2 M2-socket, DDR2 ram (2gb to start with), and the next $300 at that time ($400+ is too much for a vid card).
 
Hmm interesting.. im 21 but i remember in the 80s we had a computer in our shop.. i dunno the specs but my dad says it was thousands of dollars lol and only game played was pacman :p. Must be cool for you guys to see technology advance so much...
 
Btw, for those of you who remember and those of you who don't Epyx was the king on C64 with many amazing titles. They were probably the EA of the time.

They had:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_Mission
Jumpman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_MissionImpossible Mission
The Games: Summer Edition
The Games: Winter Edition
Pitstop
Winter Games
World Games

and a ton more...

Amazing, it was the equivalent of a company releasing Doom, Duke Nukem, Civilization, Half-Life, NHL Hockey, Sim City...

#$%!#^*& I AM TOO FREAKING OLD
 
yay old people
my first pc was 486SX/25, at the time I so wanted a mac but I'm glad I didn't get one
i broke and fix that thing so many times, first steps for learning about computer upgrades and stuff since I had it for so long

next K6-300 -> K6-2 450
then Athlon 1GHz -> 1600+ -> 2600+ -> more, too many athlons that I lost count
then 3800+ x2 -> fx-60
now 965EE -> kentsfield 2.13

Please AMD give me a reason to come back to you
Hopefully K8L will kick ass, but who knows what Intel has up its sleeve
 
Must be cool for you guys to see technology advance so much...
Great post by the OP - brings back lots of memories. My first experience with a computer was in 1986 when I went to work for a civil firm started by a supervisor who I used to work with at a former job. He had AutoCad 2.6 and a 286/12 machine. I designed a 300+ lot subdivision on that system. Let me tell you - it was painfully SLOOW! THen he got an Acer 386/16 with Acad Ver. 9 and the 3 of us CAD techs fought to get that machine. Then came the Compaq 386/20's, a Novell network, an 8 pen Calcomp plotter (it used to fascinate us) and Acad 11. We were among the most technologically advanced civil firms in Orlando at the time. I remember going to an Acad Users Group meeting and a rep from Intel showed up and passed around the 486/33 cpu (in the brand new zif socket) for all of us to see. We were all duly impressed! Later on after leaving that firm I got my Amdek system and started with a new firm and getting better computers throughout the years.
Yeah - it has been quite impressive to see the advancements in technology. One day I'll look back on it and tell the young whippersnappers stories about the "good old days" just like my grandad did. He saw the emergence of the car, airplane, telephone, radio and tv. Same story - different players.
 
thanks for sharing:)...Conroe is definity the shat! Is about 20% faster clock for clock and clocks higher than dated A64 architecture.. 3Ghz vs. 3.8Ghz making conore, overall, about 40% faster for those who tweak like yourself. Call me a Luddite, but I just question whether we need faster nowadays.. quite honestly your old Athlons and PIII's are just fine for 90% of the work I do and with games everyone knows it's all about GPU at serious resolutions. I'm not buying another CPU for a couple years me thinks. Much rather save for new 26" NEC monitor and video that can drive it above 40FPS.

...my limited boxes.

-Celeron 500 with TNT2
-Athlon 1.2 with GF2 Gto then a GF3 Ti500
-Tbred 1.67@2600Mhz with ... GF4, 9700pro, x800xt
-A64 1.8 939@2700Mhz with 7800GT then dual GT's now 7950GX2

The only reason I made the A64 move is because they stopped making faster video cards which would sit in my tbred box, namley going PCIe on the elite cards:( Tbred is still just fine at my moms house blazing away.

Any CPU made in the last 3 years is so powerful that the GPU becomes the bottleneck in high res gaming or even medium as shown here with a 7800GT and multiple processors.


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Speaking of games selling hardware...my upgrade path. I'll post my Grandpa's computer on here too, while he was alive he dabbled, and I learned/played a lot on those early boxes.

Packard Bell 386sx/16mhz 5.25" floppy + 3.5" floppy, no HDD - my dad still has this - only repair was a BIOS battery? once.
Packard Bell Pentium 60 - my dad still has this PC.

mooched off my roommate's P2-266mhz PC while at college that year, he spent like $2k on it, almost the only one in the dorm with a P2..everyone else had P1s or Pentium pros


My boxes:

EDIT: Forgot my brief cheapy box: 266mhz Cyrix, ugh!

K6-2 350mhz/Voodoo3 - wanted to play Quake 2, Baldur's Gate

Socket A Athlon 750mhz/Radeon (7000) - Upgraded because of Baldur's Gate II

Athlon XP 1800+/Radeon 8500 - bought from a coworker - mainly for Cnc Generals ZH, and my wife had my old k6-2 350 stuff which wasn't cutting it for the Sims

A64 2800+ Newcastle/Radeon 9800pro - mainly for BFME1

Just lately I've started mini upgrades which are working better than system rebuilds now. PCIe 754 board & vanilla x800 in January, 3400 newcastle & x850xt a few months ago.
 
Thnx for crapping on a perfectly good thread Serge84...
This thread is about a "lifestyle" not "AMD vs. Intel" wars you're so fascinated with....
Stop being a douche-bag, and go start your own worthless thread...

Mike
 
syntx said:
Btw, for those of you who remember and those of you who don't Epyx was the king on C64 with many amazing titles. They were probably the EA of the time.

They had:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_Mission
Jumpman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_MissionImpossible Mission
The Games: Summer Edition
The Games: Winter Edition
Pitstop
Winter Games
World Games

and a ton more...

Amazing, it was the equivalent of a company releasing Doom, Duke Nukem, Civilization, Half-Life, NHL Hockey, Sim City...

#$%!#^*& I AM TOO FREAKING OLD


Yeah, Epyx ruled. They also made the Vorpal Utility Kit, probably my favorite set of disk tools.

While we're on the subject of the c64... check this out:

www.prophet64.com


WAY cool. If my 64 still works I'm getting it.
 
tightline said:
thanks for sharing:)...Conroe is definity the shat! Is about 20% faster clock for clock and clocks higher than dated A64 architecture.. 3Ghz vs. 3.8Ghz making conore, overall, about 40% faster for those who tweak like yourself. Call me a Luddite, but I just question whether we need faster nowadays.. quite honestly your old Athlons and PIII's are just fine for 90% of the work I do and with games everyone knows it's all about GPU at serious resolutions. I'm not buying another CPU for a couple years me thinks. Much rather save for new 26" NEC monitor and video that can drive it above 40FPS.

...my limited boxes.

-Celeron 500 with TNT2
-Athlon 1.2 with GF2 Gto then a GF3 Ti500
-Tbred 1.67@2600Mhz with ... GF4, 9700pro, x800xt
-A64 1.8 939@2700Mhz with 7800GT then dual GT's now 7950GX2

The only reason I made the A64 move is because they stopped making faster video cards which would sit in my tbred box, namley going PCIe on the elite cards:( Tbred is still just fine at my moms house blazing away.

Any CPU made in the last 3 years is so powerful that the GPU becomes the bottleneck in high res gaming or even medium as shown here with a 7800GT and multiple processors.


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I've known for some time that the CPU's don't make a huge difference unless there is a large gap between them, but wow. Those are interesting numbers.
 
Dan_D said:
I've known for some time that the CPU's don't make a huge difference unless there is a large gap between them, but wow. Those are interesting numbers.


That's why i hate other reviewing sites who show E6700's blasting past say P4-630 @ 10x7 with nothing on. No one games like that. What people whould really be looking at during those fake resolutions is the minimum frams acceptable to the user, as they will be the same frames your processor can give even at high res max details. How much you drop below that point is entirely dependant on video not processor.

So when I see a P4 like here scoring 99 and C2D doing 177 I don't say OMG that P4 sucks, Conroe rulz, since it's well above what I need to game @ 99.
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All are chopped down equally by video limitations, and the P4s 99FPS limitation was'nt even a factor.
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Dan_D said:
I've known for some time that the CPU's don't make a huge difference unless there is a large gap between them, but wow. Those are interesting numbers.

This is why I'm still running a socket 754 chip.
 
nice story. I myself have been almost all AMD. The only exceptions were an i8088 in my PCjr (got it for xmas in 1990), a eMach. P4 2.8/400/512, and a Celeron D 2.54/533/256/


I got a K6-2 450 around xmas 1999 (late grad present actually). Pissed me off. Told the guy I wanted an Athlon 600 or 650. He was like well, they're in short supply and I can build you this for now and then swap it out for the Athlon when I get it in stock. I was fine with that, he seemed like an honest guy. Well when the time came and he had the Athlon in stock he wanted to charge me $500 to replace the mohterboard and CPU. That K6-2 lasted me three more years. Before I fried the CPU during a BIOS hacking seesion. :D
 
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