XBOX360 + new 50" LCD + 5.1sound = bye bye PC gaming

mastercheeze said:
If your HDTV has a DVI/HDMI or component input, then you too can enjoy PC games in HD on the big screen. It's just that easy!!!
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Heck even if you don't, most video cards have S-video or component video too

I just got my 360 Sunday but I'm just looking foward for Forgotten Planet, Blue Dragon, Elemental Arms, and Gears of War. All the other titles I could care less about (gotta em on PC)

So mostly I'm looking foward to the seemingly push for more Japanese influenced games. Because looking back at old xbox games looked boring to me.

I just cant see how not to love both :D
 
I have to agree with the original poster on just about everything he said.

...but being that we're on a forum where 95% are pro PC, i can see why people get their feathers ruffled by you pissing in their Cherios.

Cheers!! :D
 
One thing about the whole "I can upgrade" comments. It costs more to upgrade your PC's video card alone than it does for a whole new console. Yes, you can upgrade to a "budget" video card, but if you ever upgrade to the best thing available...prepare to drop $500, or in some cases (the 7950, x1900xt, or an SLI pair of 7900GT's) more. A console player isn't out of luck because the games they're playing are designed for his/her hardware. If that's dated - they can still buy a whole new console for the price of one simple upgrade.

It's the same as the playing PC games on your TV argument. It's only 1/2 right.
 
Domingo said:
One thing about the whole "I can upgrade" comments. It costs more to upgrade your PC's video card alone than it does for a whole new console. Yes, you can upgrade to a "budget" video card, but if you ever upgrade to the best thing available...prepare to drop $500, or in some cases (the 7950, x1900xt, or an SLI pair of 7900GT's) more. A console player isn't out of luck because the games they're playing are designed for his/her hardware. If that's dated - they can still buy a whole new console for the price of one simple upgrade.

It's the same as the playing PC games on your TV argument. It's only 1/2 right.
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Along with that, I think theres a large benefit of knowing that games will continue to look better and better throughout the consoles lives, while no upgrades are needed to increase the performance to match.
 
Orange.exe said:
Along with that, I think theres a large benefit of knowing that games will continue to look better and better throughout the consoles lives, while no upgrades are needed to increase the performance to match.
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Very true.

Its just that, there are a large amount of PC gamers here at the [H] so by default they want to justify their money spent towards their PC, rather then accept that console gaming is probably the better deal.
 
theNoid said:
Very true.

Its just that, there are a large amount of PC gamers here at the [H] so by default they want to justify their money spent towards their PC, rather then accept that console gaming is probably the better deal.
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Ita all in what a person wants out of their gaming hobby. Me personally, think I've just gotten tired of the usual PC grinding mill. I needed a change.
 
The OP is still in a honeymoon stage of switching to consoles, but I pretty much agree with him. Now that console games can be high res and with voice chat, there's only two real genres I prefer on the computer: FPS and RTS. Dungeon crawl RPGs would be on the list, but alas, the good ones are no longer made.
 
theNoid said:
Very true.

Its just that, there are a large amount of PC gamers here at the [H] so by default they want to justify their money spent towards their PC, rather then accept that console gaming is probably the better deal.
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Ah huh, if console gaming is a better deal, then why is there relentless bitching on the price of PS3? Yeah console gaming is "cheaper" but IMO, it's catching up price wise pretty fast. If you want to take advantage of 360 and PS3's true capabilities, you have to drop a lot of dough for a HDTV. Look at the OP, he just spent what, $2000 on a TV so that he can enjoy 360 to it's fullness. Console games are also more expensive than PC's, as they start at $60 (with PS3 coming soon, it might go even higher) and their prices drop slower than PC games. In the end, the price difference isn't big enough that it should be the sole reason to give up PC gaming.
 
I must admit that the last PC game I played (other than the Settlers demo) was world of warcraft, before that, half life 2. I'm tired of upgrading to play games so these days I just stick to consoles or handheld. I've spent so much money ever since the old voodoo days right up to my (woefully outdated) x850 that when the crossfire / SLI boards came in I decided that enough was enough. So for me, it makes more sense to spend $1000 on consoles every 4 years than it does to spend $2000 on a top of the line PC every 2 years. But obviously everyone's different and I don't criticize people for spending their money how they want to!

Besides that, I spend all day on my PC working... sometimes it's nice to change seats. :)
 
aznpxdd said:
Ah huh, if console gaming is a better deal, then why is there relentless bitching on the price of PS3? Yeah console gaming is "cheaper" but IMO, it's catching up price wise pretty fast. If you want to take advantage of 360 and PS3's true capabilities, you have to drop a lot of dough for a HDTV. Look at the OP, he just spent what, $2000 on a TV so that he can enjoy 360 to it's fullness. Console games are also more expensive than PC's, as they start at $60 (with PS3 coming soon, it might go even higher) and their prices drop slower than PC games. In the end, the price difference isn't big enough that it should be the sole reason to give up PC gaming.
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a tv that you can watch the superbowl & Sperm Swallowers 9 in HD beauty on a High Def television...

he could have gotten a little monitor if he wanted... or spent $400 bux on a basic HDTV... but he wanted to go big. $2k gets you more than just a monitor. He could have spent upwards to $12k on a tv but thats all his choice. Tv is gonna be used for more than just an Xbox.

oh and you can rent Console games rather than buying them. I dont see PC games doing that.
 
Joose said:
a tv that you can watch the superbowl & Sperm Swallowers 9 in HD beauty on a High Def television...
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Given the Janet Jackson incident and the state of porn stars, they are two things that you DO NOT want to watch in HD. :D
 
Dotk pretty much covered all the points, but missed one that the OP mentioned.

No more trying to establish a time and place to meet people that I want to play with, I can see instantly if they are on or off, the ability to easiliy send messages and chat requests on the fly as I play the game has been totally freaking awesome. One minute im playing a single player mission, the next I see 2 of my friends login to Live, I send a game or a chat request, we setup our game and server and boom, were off having a lag free, voice chat filled gaming session. Why the hell has PC never gotten this easy and fun?
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Gee, I don't know, maybe xfire would help?
 
saber07 said:
Dotk pretty much covered all the points, but missed one that the OP mentioned.

Gee, I don't know, maybe xfire would help?
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I've tried, its kinda hit an miss
 
I've heard the $2000 PC argument on other forums too often. You can keep in the PC gaming market for about $200 a year tops. I've got a socket 754 system that cost very little money. I've recently dumped into it a $120 AR x850xt, $40 AR Antec 430w PSU, $99 Venice 3400+ and a $10 AR 160GB SATA HDD. I didn't need the SATA drive but it was cheap.

And the only reason I bought the PSU/video card was to run games at 1920x1200 & max settings. Greedy.

You're getting obsessive with your PC stuff if you spend that kind of cash on a regular basis.

BTW: you're experiencing Xbox live with early adopters. Wait until the price drops make it a more mainstream system. Trying to play Halo 2 online last year always seemed to involve some little fucking teenagers spouting hatred and insults, or some morons trying to kill their own teammates. I let my xbox live subscription die off.

I understand the HDTV thing, though. I've got a 100" projected 4:3 and many game consoles.
 
I don't think the point of his post was to put you guys down for being PC gamers, but instead to make fun of himself for buying $2000-worth of PC upgrades each year. He knows it's too much. That's why he said it was stupid. :rolleyes:

Also, I largely agree with the OP on this one, having been dissappointed with the high costs of maintaining a PC that can keep up with the latest tech. I know it takes a lot (cost of 360 and accessories, plus any home theater equipment) to get a great next-gen console setup. But remember that once you do, you're literally set for a good five years, during which you will have games tailor-made for that system, running in high-resolution, with perfect sound and visual quality, all at silky smooth framerates.

Remember that this isn't just a question of costs. The time commitment of maintaining a high-performance PC borders on the insane, especially when you get any hardware failures. It's literally a daily chore. Maintenance on the 360 and your home theater equipment? Nuffin'. You start it up, it works. That's that.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE PCs, PC gaming, and the freedom I get from mods, custom-building my PC, finding (and benchmarking) the latest drivers, and using a good old keyboard and mouse. But honestly, I'm working through my third year of college now plus a 20-hour a week job, and I'm finding that I just don't have the time to put into maintaining my comp. When I get free time to relax, the last thing I want to do is spend it troubleshooting which stick of RAM just went bad. I want to sit back, relax, and just have fun. Wondering if I'm really getting the best frames per second I could, why such-and-so game has a slowdown problem, whether this new game will support widescreen resolutions, if my soundcard's 5.1 Dolby Digital will be supported (lest I be stuck, again, with stereo!), how high I can push the visual settings before I get sub-30 frames per second, etc. It's all a pain that just seems to rarely pay off in the end.

PC gaming can be an excellent experience. The problem lies in the cost and time needed to get there.
 
theNoid said:
Not really, I've tried. Try sitting on a couch hunched over attempting to play with a mouse and keyboard.. its nearly impossible. Not only that, but running games at such a HUGE resolution brought my system to its knees.

So while its 'possible' it wasn't practical at all for me. My tv does support DVI/HDMI, component and all that.. and I run a HTPC on it. However I have tried, and dislike pc gaming on my big screen. Keyboards and mice are made for a desk not a couch and/or coffee table. It was 'fun' at first, but got tiresome. Plus for the price of just what I paid for my video card, I have a system that plays games on the same setup, at great frame rates, and I can sit back, relax with a controller and play with a room full of buddies.

I've been waiting for consoles to come back into my life, and the 360 finally did it for me. :cool:
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I hear what you're saying about the KB/mouse.....I usually just keep the keyboard on my lap and use the mouse on the couch. Seems to work alright for me.

As far as res, my HDTV is 720p native.....so 1280x768 (vga input) isn't really stressing my 7800gt. I suppose I should've mentioned that; if I had a 1080p tv then things would certainly be much much different.

I also must admit that I've thought about a 360; the demo machines that I've tried just didn't scratch my itch. To each his own. :D
 
It all depends on what games you wanna play, its easy to say that a 360 is easy to use on a couch, its just as easy to say a media center pc is easy to use on a couch (yes playing pc games with a joypad is possible, especially the games that are ported from the 360 etc!) Personnaly i got a 2k laptop thats highdef (full 1080p) that can connect with hdmi to my Tv in the lounge for 720p/1080p gaming/entertainment/blueray movies/surfing/email/video calling (and the list goes on as we know), Yep its an expensive setup but it will cope with games for a long time yet, Had a 360 got bored of that i might pick anotherone up if this windows live anywhere is as good as they say it is. i will defo pick up a ps3 even though i know a ps3 with 10 games is gonna cost me around 1K.

in april ago i got sick of pc gaming/upgrading and threw the towel in, went to consoles.....the honeymoon period lasted only 4months and im glad to be back on pc gaming but im not as die hard as i was before. as long as i can pc game at 720p then im happy. In my opinion a pc tower with the capabilities to play games at the same res as the 360 wont cost much more than a 360 to build.

Consoles are catching up fast now though with Photo album viewing to mp3 playing to web surfing, i reckon in 5 years when the next gen consoles come out it will be difficult to justify the price of pcs against consoles when more features are added to consoles, unless graphics cards and processors drastically drop in price at the time.

So my theory is have the best of bth worlds but be sensible in what pc hardware to buy ie stick to the 6600gts and 7600gts for graphics with the best price/perfomance raitos, and the x2 3800+ processors that clock to processor speeds over £200-£300 more expensive.

Im off to play some more prey anyway!!
 
i have a 50' inch and 5.1 as well and i sold my gaming pc and just have a web surfer now. 360 fills the urge very nicely :)
 
*shrugs* i came from consoles a few years ago and you get what you pay for really, i don't mind paying a premium (i don't...you only have to shop around) for a pc as i'm getting IMO the best in gameplay, graphics and sound. My 360 is right here next to me but it's barely used, sure it's nice to fire it up occasionaly and download a few demos, But to pay £40-50 for most of these pap games? ugh. It's a nice item, and it's prolly worth having if you're a PC gamer...but it won't replace my computer as my main gaming platform. :)
 
I started gaming on the Atari 2600 because my dad wouldn't let me be around our PC unless he was there with me.

Anyway, I go where the games I want to play are. If I need to get a 360 to play a certain game (right now, Dead Rising might be that game), then I'll get it. I might end up wanting a PS3 if that unnamed Star Wars game rocks as much as that early clip shows it to (I know it's not actual gameplay).

I do consider myself a PC gamer and earlier today, after reading about some new games and sequels, I realized it's a wonderful time to be a PC gamer, despite all the talk of it dying because of the new consoles and lack of retail sales. I do have a problem wiht those NPD market research numbers because they only looked at retail in-store sales, not any online purchases. I haven't bought a new game at a walk-in retail store in years (I buy all of my games online, or from one of the various download services like Direct2Drive or Steam. You also have to take into account the popularity of the PC MMORPG customers too, there are millions alone on WoW.

I don't maintain a top of the line PC and I still have a wonderful time gaming on my PC. I've got a huge pile of old games that I still play, but it's the same way with my PS2 and Gamecube too:. there are games I don't bother with anymore for every system.

I'm not ready to throw in the towel on PC gaming just yet :)
 
Pooky said:
I might end up wanting a PS3 if that unnamed Star Wars game rocks as much as that early clip shows it to (I know it's not actual gameplay).
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Just so you know, that's a 360 game too.
 
Pooky said:
I might end up wanting a PS3 if that unnamed Star Wars game rocks as much as that early clip shows it to (I know it's not actual gameplay).
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This is a 360 game as well. :D
 
animasaki said:
Remember that this isn't just a question of costs. The time commitment of maintaining a high-performance PC borders on the insane, especially when you get any hardware failures. It's literally a daily chore. Maintenance on the 360 and your home theater equipment? Nuffin'. You start it up, it works. That's that.
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Not true at all, you act as if consoles are trouble free but they aren't. Why are there so many people saying that their 360s are dying, freezing up, etc. Also when the PS3 comes out, I expect Sony to live up to their standard, which means the PS3 will be plague with numerous problems just like the PS2.
 
Psychotext said:
Just so you know, that's a 360 game too.
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theNoid said:
This is a 360 game as well. :D
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Oh, well then, that's cool, very very cool! l :)

I want a Wii and a 360, so maybe I can skip the PS3 if possible :)

aznpxdd said:
Not true at all, you act as if consoles are trouble free but they aren't. Why are there so many people saying that their 360s are dying, freezing up, etc. Also when the PS3 comes out, I expect Sony to live up to their standard, which means the PS3 will be plague with numerous problems just like the PS2.
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I had to buy a second PS1 and PS2 for disk read errors and had to get another XBOX because it died one day when I turned it on :(

One reason I'm afraid of the PS3 is that if there are any system killing problems that I don't know how to fix personally, buying another one is not really in my overall plans. Well, buying one might not be in them either if I can help it.
 
The thing about PC gaming is that upgrades involve LUCK in many cases. What if someone bought a P4 3.2 3 years ago? What if they bought a 6800GT only 2 years ago? Those are pretty new parts, but were easily $4-500 each when they came out. What if you want to play FEAR or Crysis with that setup in 6 months? Guess what, you're stuck paying a LOT more. Why? AGP is dead, and so is the original P4's socket structure. That forces you to purchase a WHOLE NEW SYSTEM after only 3 years, just because you hopped in at the wrong time. Some people might be able to keep their system alive as a medium spec'd rig using $2-300 per year, or you might get stuck paying a gigantic overhaul fee. When DX10 hits, you WILL have to pay a big ass fee within 12 months of that. As usual, unless you go budget - that's $400, which is the cost of an Xbox 360. Let's not forget PC makers love to advertise new games and show them off on rigs that have 4K specs, too. FEAR and Oblivion adverts are ALWAYS shown on premium SLI systems with overclocked machines. You're kidding yourself if you think a normally buit machine will make 'em run 1600X1200X32 with everything spec'd out.
PC gaming is awesome - but it's NOT cheap and there's no way to make it as cheap as a console. It just won't happen. You're paying for the ability to make it better, not cheaper.
If you're seriously into PC gaming, it's all about timing. You have to jump on a new standard, otherwise it's easy to get stuck with a technology change that eliminates upgrade potential. Think of how quickly PCI express became the de-facto standard. Ditto for socket 775. Now with Conroe on the streets, you'd better beleive that AMD will have something to answer with. First SLI came back, now people are wanting QUAD SLI (UGH!...how kludgy can you get), and I'm sure that'll snowball even more. It's all just a mess.

I'm a proud PC gamer. However I'm prepared to drop 2K every 3 years to do so. Even when it seems like I might get away with less, then a socket change or new standard pops up that forces me to buy one more part just to upgrade another. If you don't upgrade, don't expect your experience to be "how it's meant to be played."
 
would you like some cheese with your Whine?

Got board after reading the line.. "Just a little over a year ago I was so hardcore and dedicated PC gamer I never wanted to back to console gaming again"

this shows a few points into your mind set at the start of your "hardcore pc gaming" to not want to go back to console gaming again is some what strange..

i dont give myself a tittle of being hardcore or not, i prefer my pc over my concoles but i dont get GT on my pc, i dont get mario on my pc or smashbrothers...

i could go on and read that you have had an apiphonie or somthin but i dont want to..

i want an xbox360 too, but i see its faults- i also see its a pc in a strange white casing too...

but each platform has its own pro's and con's... consoles are great for racing games, fighting games, general arcade games and what not. the pc is great for FPS's, RTS's, RPG's, a few action games and a general for an online comunity... to come out with a comment like servers have asshats and cheats on... well i dont belive your going to get servers without ass hats on.. it also deppends on what servers and on what games..

if you go around playing cs then dont come here and complain... maybe you should play halo with your mic's.. having some 12 year old kid telling you how uber elite he is while his mother is moning at him in the back ground...

also pcs are thats easy to see if friends want to play or not, theres a little somting call x-fire... you can chat whilst your in your game (say oblivion ) to another person thats playing RA3... ( oh and btw theres no little brats playing that game.. only "hardcore" players really hang around on RA3 and you dont even need a geforce 4mx to paly it! )

i realised that graphics are not the most important thing in a pc ( happend to have realised this after spending £2,500+ on my pc )

and when it comes to fps's and you think your hardcore you would know not to have the greatest graphics card to play because they turn half of the shit off! wepon models in ut and quake, they turn the textures down and the flashy fetures off all to get a smoother feel and run through the game..

and if you only use your pc for gaming then shame on you! the internet is a vast place, but if your just looking for a fix in a game then maybe you should stick to a console.

my conclusion - consoles have there good points and bad points, as does the pc. you dont need a TOPEND pc to get a great time out of it, just the same as i can still play on my snes and have a blast. i dont hold it against anyone who plays just one or the other, yet i feel it trivial to find out that some one has just discovered the other :S why cant you just say "hey i enjoy both". you can upgrade a pc for less than £500 every 5 years to keep it inshape to enjoy your pc... yet a consoles life time is of the same time.

i am sick of reading this is better than that.. ffs its called prefferance!

P.S dont think you will be missed either.. bye bye
 
Domingo said:
The thing about PC gaming is that upgrades involve LUCK in many cases. What if someone bought a P4 3.2 3 years ago? What if they bought a 6800GT only 2 years ago? Those are pretty new parts, but were easily $4-500 each when they came out. What if you want to play FEAR or Crysis with that setup in 6 months? Guess what, you're stuck paying a LOT more. Why? AGP is dead, and so is the original P4's socket structure. That forces you to purchase a WHOLE NEW SYSTEM after only 3 years, just because you hopped in at the wrong time. Some people might be able to keep their system alive as a medium spec'd rig using $2-300 per year, or you might get stuck paying a gigantic overhaul fee. When DX10 hits, you WILL have to pay a big ass fee within 12 months of that. As usual, unless you go budget - that's $400, which is the cost of an Xbox 360. Let's not forget PC makers love to advertise new games and show them off on rigs that have 4K specs, too. FEAR and Oblivion adverts are ALWAYS shown on premium SLI systems with overclocked machines. You're kidding yourself if you think a normally buit machine will make 'em run 1600X1200X32 with everything spec'd out.
PC gaming is awesome - but it's NOT cheap and there's no way to make it as cheap as a console. It just won't happen. You're paying for the ability to make it better, not cheaper.
If you're seriously into PC gaming, it's all about timing. You have to jump on a new standard, otherwise it's easy to get stuck with a technology change that eliminates upgrade potential. Think of how quickly PCI express became the de-facto standard. Ditto for socket 775. Now with Conroe on the streets, you'd better beleive that AMD will have something to answer with. First SLI came back, now people are wanting QUAD SLI (UGH!...how kludgy can you get), and I'm sure that'll snowball even more. It's all just a mess.

I'm a proud PC gamer. However I'm prepared to drop 2K every 3 years to do so. Even when it seems like I might get away with less, then a socket change or new standard pops up that forces me to buy one more part just to upgrade another. If you don't upgrade, don't expect your experience to be "how it's meant to be played."
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I don't remember another time when upgrading PC is about luck other then the AGP to PCI-E transition. Plus, how many years has it been since the AGP slot has been the standard. It's not as if the change to PCI-E was a huge suprise, most people knew about it and still bought an AGP motherboard.
 
I can safely conclude that gaming in generall for me is stuck in a rut right now, only thing that I have been playing lately is Moto GP and F-Zero GX, I tried playing Oblivion yesterday but can't get very far into it since I beat it already, I am anticipating the Wii though as it has my favorite franchises on it.

But gaming is by no means dead on console or pc, I think gaming for me should pick up quite a bit later in the year as then it will be winter and I won't have as much to do, plus all the good games will be coming out.
 
aznpxdd said:
Not true at all, you act as if consoles are trouble free but they aren't. Why are there so many people saying that their 360s are dying, freezing up, etc. Also when the PS3 comes out, I expect Sony to live up to their standard, which means the PS3 will be plague with numerous problems just like the PS2.
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Now now, you're missing the point! I wasn't so much talking about hardware failures specifically (guess I shouldn't have used that as an example, eh?), but rather the high maintenance costs of PCs, both in time and money.

True, a 360 may indeed die. However, for $60 you get two years of quick exchange. That means that if anything goes wrong, you have someone to call 24/7, and if they can't walk you through fixing it, you get a new (or at least refurbished) system sent to you.

Your custom-built PC has a virus? Spyware? OS glitches? Crappy program bogging things down? Or, heaven forbid, you make an accident in any system maintenance task (such as registry cleaning)? Or heck, say your software ISN'T failing, and it's, instead, a hardware issue. You get blue screens. Random errors. Restarts for no reason. Your system doesn't boot properly. You don't get quite the performance you thought you would, yet you can't be sure.

Again, I'm bashing PCs more than I should to make a point, but it's all very possible, and unfortunately common with anyone who isn't extremely versed in the going-ons of a PC. Heck, even if you know a good amount, people still make mistakes, hardware fails, and glitches happen. It's not so much about which system will have less problems overall (though consoles will certainly have less, simply by nature of design), rather the peace of mind knowing that your entire system will be covered in the event of any failure.

If I could buy such a warranty for my PC for just $60, I'd have it for every one in my home.



Also, Domingo has an excellent point. It seemed like any time I looked into buying a PC upgrade, it was always right on the verge of something new and amazing. It was disgusting. I just wanted to know what was a good upgrade, and instead I was bombarded with people telling me to wait for different technologies, all of which sounded great, yet none of which I was able to wait for. Thus I was put into a position not so much questioning which current technology I wanted, rather a question of whether to wait for newer tech (and be an early adopter *shudder*), or buy already outdated tech, and know that I was behind the curve as I input my credit card number.

Of course, these are exactly the wrong forums to voice such an opinion, so I don't expect many to agree with me. I just know that I'm sick and tired of the constant battle just to keep a performance PC in shape, and 360 or not, I'm getting out of PC gaming.

And quite frankly, it's been a breath of fresh air.
 
animasaki said:
Now now, you're missing the point! I wasn't so much talking about hardware failures specifically (guess I shouldn't have used that as an example, eh?), but rather the high maintenance costs of PCs, both in time and money.

True, a 360 may indeed die. However, for $60 you get two years of quick exchange. That means that if anything goes wrong, you have someone to call 24/7, and if they can't walk you through fixing it, you get a new (or at least refurbished) system sent to you.

Your custom-built PC has a virus? Spyware? OS glitches? Crappy program bogging things down? Or, heaven forbid, you make an accident in any system maintenance task (such as registry cleaning)? Or heck, say your software ISN'T failing, and it's, instead, a hardware issue. You get blue screens. Random errors. Restarts for no reason. Your system doesn't boot properly. You don't get quite the performance you thought you would, yet you can't be sure.

Again, I'm bashing PCs more than I should to make a point, but it's all very possible, and unfortunately common with anyone who isn't extremely versed in the going-ons of a PC. Heck, even if you know a good amount, people still make mistakes, hardware fails, and glitches happen. It's not so much about which system will have less problems overall (though consoles will certainly have less, simply by nature of design), rather the peace of mind knowing that your entire system will be covered in the event of any failure.

If I could buy such a warranty for my PC for just $60, I'd have it for every one in my home.
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On the software side of pcs, if you have norton ghost and your hard drive is backed up every week, it doesnt take long to get your pc back to a good state if say you got a virus, buggy software, conflicts etc, it takes norton ghost about 30-40 minutes to put my 100 gig hard drive back to normal state. Harware wise, u get better warranty on most pc components, ie lifetime warranty on ram and gpus etc,
 
Rash said:
On the software side of pcs, if you have norton ghost and your hard drive is backed up every week, it doesnt take long to get your pc back to a good state if say you got a virus, buggy software, conflicts etc, it takes norton ghost about 30-40 minutes to put my 100 gig hard drive back to normal state. Harware wise, u get better warranty on most pc components, ie lifetime warranty on ram and gpus etc,
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There's a big difference between buying norton software, seperate backup hard drives, anti-virus software, etc. and configuring it all properly without any conflicts, and not having to worry about any of it in the first place. Also, while it's true that many PC parts have great warranties, good luck getting quality service on most of it. A console is guaranteed, the whole unit, and it's just one number to call. No need to prove that it's that component that's failing. The system has a problem; give me a new one.

Maybe it's just me and my recent experiences, but I'd much rather deal with one decent customer service rep who's used to giving exchanges, than someone who's job it is to see that they don't have to exchange yours for a new item.

Look, I'm really attacking PCs a LOT more than I'm comfortable with right now. I've made my point, and I don't want to drive it into the ground to the point that I start a flamewar. I'm sure you all can make your own decisions just as I've made mine. Enjoy your various technologies! :D
 
animasaki said:
There's a big difference between buying norton software, seperate backup hard drives, anti-virus software, etc. and configuring it all properly without any conflicts, and not having to worry about any of it in the first place.
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Fair enough but just for the record mine came with all this preconfigured anyway, i didnt have to buy anything extra or configure anything.
 
I have a 360 that I play almost daily, but you know what, i'm not giving up on PC gaming. Never will, I love FPS's and that's where it's meant to be played. Sure, I play console FPS's, but I prefer my mouse and KB and that will never change. I just don't get people who claimed to like an entertainment medium (PC gaming) and then all of a sudden, abandon it because another one comes to the horizon (360). Can't you enjoy both? If it's financial issues, then I can totally understand because it does get expensive after a while. But it's never just that, people always want to dump on PC gaming. Look, I have no idea where or why you are dumping 3 grand on gaming PC's every few months, but if you are, then you don't know what you are doing. And to say that there are no good games on the PC or that the 360 is better, then just stop right there. Forget gaming, nothing will ever entertain you. Half-Life 2 Episode 1, Sin Episodes, Prey (beat it on the PC first and liked it better than the 360 version) Guild Wars Factions, Civ IV, Titan Quest. Dark Messiah of Might and Magic is coming out soon. UT2K7, Quake Wars Enemy Territory, Warhammer - Mark of Chaos, WOW - the Burning Crusades and muthafuckin' Crysis!!! all coming soon. Let's not forget the staples that are still played like BF2, UT2K4 etc If there is nothing there that interests you as a gamer, stop playing games already. Leave this place and pick up knitting or underwater basket weaving.
 
See now, btf1980, that's exactly why I didn't want to say that much about PCs. I didn't want to start an arguement.

PC gaming is awesome, no doubt about it. FPSs and RTSs play much better with a mouse and keyboard. I won't deny that there are plenty of great games coming out for PCs, either. As far as pure gaming goes, assuming both sides' hardware works as intended, both PCs and consoles provide great experiences, with each having their own strengths.

My 'quitting' PC gaming was strictly what *I* plan to do, and by no means do I expect, nor am I asking, anyone to do the same. I'm just stating my stance, and I was curious to see if anyone else on these boards had a similar mindset. If you have the time and money needed, PC gaming is a great option.

Just so it's not brought up again (against me, at least): I fully agree that you can keep a computer within the 'decent gaming performance' level with $300 a year or so. I'm just saying that it's more than I want to spend yearly.
 
I hear what you are saying animasaki, and I wasn't lashing out at you or anything personally, i'm passionate about PC gaming, don't mind me. :D
 
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