New 939 mATX @ Newegg!!!

tuphdc said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813153027Interesting, its gotta beat out the current ootions from Foxxconn, MSI, and ECS.



Can it OC though?
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Not sure how it has to beat out the competitor's when nobody has tried it yet. Some of the matx's in the sticky thread aren't bad, but they're not that good either. Would be nice if this mobo can oc but the jetway name doesn't inspire confidence.

Who's wants to be the Jetway guinea pig? :D
 
hmm, I can't even find information on it support E3 (venice) athlons.

Also, its the newest matx s939 board but only has a 20-pin atx power port whereas the older matx s939 board have 24-pin power ports..

Is that bad?
 
Hey.

Received an e-mail from Jetway earlier today...

"Dear Sir
Thank you for support JETEAY products.

the board can adjust fsb , cpu vcore, dimm core
but we not suggest overclock

Thank & Best Regards
JETWAY FAE Support Team"

So good news is it supports overclocking features. Whether they said they don't suggest overclocking to cover their a$$ is a different matter.

Be interested for someone to try this out.
 
On board dedicated memory for the x200... good (better than MSI)
16x PCIe + 1x PCIe... good
Realtek ALC880... possible dolby digital encoding would be good
Uli southbridge instead of ATI POS... good

The newegg pictures show an expansion bracket which I hope is for TV-out... is so, this could be my next HTPC build.
 
Excellence. So it allows OC'ing.

Any info on it supporting Venice Athlons?

I emailed Jetway sales but I have yet to recieve a reply.
 
tuphdc said:
Excellence. So it allows OC'ing.

Any info on it supporting Venice Athlons?

I emailed Jetway sales but I have yet to recieve a reply.
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i like to know more about the overclocking features and if they work

also like to know if it supports dual core amd

Jen
 
The ATi chipsets have proven to be awesome overclockers. Though obviously this varies.
 
recieved it from newegg today, case doesn't come till tuesday =( gunna set it up ina spare one tomorow ill post the oc data. the manual and box both afirm the vdimm and vcore adjustments, and by reading the advanced bios section it looks like this thing will oc fairly well
 
Vanilla Coke said:
recieved it from newegg today, case doesn't come till tuesday =( gunna set it up ina spare one tomorow ill post the oc data. the manual and box both afirm the vdimm and vcore adjustments, and by reading the advanced bios section it looks like this thing will oc fairly well
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very glad to hear

please keep us posted

Jen
 
tuphdc said:
hmm, I can't even find information on it support E3 (venice) athlons.

Also, its the newest matx s939 board but only has a 20-pin atx power port whereas the older matx s939 board have 24-pin power ports..

Is that bad?
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It's needed to provide more than 75w to the PCI-E slot. Can be a problem with a mid-range card that does not have an external connector, like an X700 Pro or 6600GT. Otherwise, it's not a big deal.

jebo_4jc said:
The ATi chipsets have proven to be awesome overclockers. Though obviously this varies.
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Show me one Radeon Xpress board that has fsb that high and can overclock that well...

Well if this board has decent vcore and fsb adjustments, it's a winner! 4 memory slots so you could use a booster! Judging by the attention to little details, everything looks promising.
 
ok i just finished putting everything together going to set up windows now and then ill post the OC data.
 
ok im ready to try oc'ing could u guys give me a little help? I am not very experienced. Got this mobo, 512x2 twinmos sp, amd 3200 venice. mobo has vcore up to 1.55 and vdim to 2.85. looking to hit something like 10x280 since the fsb can be set to 280.
 
I usually see onboard video and cross it off the list unless video is a total non-issue for the build in question. Anyone know if this one is any different?
 
Just because it has onboard video, does not mean you have to use it! Most mATX boards will have it, it does not mean the board is going to suck.

Vanilla Coke said:
ok im ready to try oc'ing could u guys give me a little help? I am not very experienced. Got this mobo, 512x2 twinmos sp, amd 3200 venice. mobo has vcore up to 1.55 and vdim to 2.85. looking to hit something like 10x280 since the fsb can be set to 280.
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Shnikey that's nice! Well I figured the Gigabyte was going to come along and usurp the crappy ECS I bought, but this is just what I expected. No worries though.

VC, set the hypertranny multi to 2x, the memory divider at 100 and the vcore @ 1.55v. Then set the fsb @ say 250 and boot into Windows. Once there, download a program called "Prime95" and use it to test for stability. You do this by going to "Options", running "torture test" and selecting the second choice.

A. If it runs for ~10 minutes w/o getting an error then you are at least somewhat stable. Go back and raise the fsb by 5 and run it again!

B.If it gets in error and the icon goes from red to yellow, then your system is not stable. Go back and lower the fsb to the last stable setting and run Prime95 for a few hours/overnight to make sure the system is totally stable.


Used to have a guide on EOCF, but Chace seems to have replaced it with his wandering-mind version. Oh well. This one is pretty good: http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showpost.php?p=1511365&postcount=1


The real question is whether the Jetway has a 1. PCI-E/PCI lock and 2. Gives the full 1.55v. If your board boots over 1. 250fsb & 2. the health status page in your bios reports 1.55v then all is good. :cool:
 
haha. TwinMOS SP needs 2.9-3.1v to clock high. Rase the vDIMM to 2.85 since that wont hurt anything, then raise ure vcore to 1.5. Thats some basic voltaging. Now raise the FSb to 220. IF that boots into windows fine, do a 3dmark05 or 03 run. if thats ok, raise it to 230, if thats ok, 240, etc etc until it breaks :)
 
Eh he can buy a booster or run a divider, it's not a big deal. Still the best timings for the money ...but ya, I would definitely consider grabbing a booste.r
 
sleepeeg3 said:
Just because it has onboard video, does not mean you have to use it! Most mATX boards will have it, it does not mean the board is going to suck.
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Yes...but how good is it?
 
k. lemme start ocing, took me and my bro like 4 hours to get the SATA working because we are noobs =)...-edit

ok max oc i could get was 245 x 10 but wouldnt boot windows. got 240x10 to boot at 1.525vcore and 1t timings. Sleepedge I dont know where the split timing setting are or if i even have them. about to dl pcmark 05 since i have x800xl. I'll post the score. I'm not sure if this is a big deal but my twinmos are bh-5 not ch-5

and is there a program i can dl to show me the temp of my cpu or do i have to buy something?

is there anywhere u can dl pcmark05 or 03 for free? if anyone has a link please post it ;)

Torture test ram for about 12 minuetes and got 0 errors and 0 warnings so its pretty stable
 
Vanilla Coke said:
k. lemme start ocing, took me and my bro like 4 hours to get the SATA working because we are noobs =)...-edit

ok max oc i could get was 245 x 10 but wouldnt boot windows. got 240x10 to boot at 1.525vcore and 1t timings. Sleepedge I dont know where the split timing setting are or if i even have them. about to dl pcmark 05 since i have x800xl. I'll post the score. I'm not sure if this is a big deal but my twinmos are bh-5 not ch-5

and is there a program i can dl to show me the temp of my cpu or do i have to buy something?

is there anywhere u can dl pcmark05 or 03 for free? if anyone has a link please post it ;)

Torture test ram for about 12 minuetes and got 0 errors and 0 warnings so its pretty stable
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-Better than some experts...
-Okay, their is a PCI-E/PCI lock (not surprised). BH-5 is what TwinMOS is labeling their chips now. Supposedly reincarnated BH-5 (which kicked ass), but I don't think so. Mine is and the UTT I have does better.
-Jetway might have some OC utilities on the motherboard CD, but as of now, there is nothing that I know of to monitor temps for the Radeon Xpress boards. Best thing you can do w/o buying something is to go into the bios and look @ the health status - it will show your CPU temp there. At least you will know what your CPU is idling at. Add about 10° to that, if you are using a stock heatsink and that's a crappy guestimate of your load temps.
-www.futuremark.com. You can download 3DMark05 to bench your X800XL or PCMark04 to bench your entire system.

Okay, until you find that divider, it sounds likely that you are being held back by your RAM. See the top screen here? http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/review.php?dXJsX3Jldmlld19JRD05NTkmdXJsX3BhZ2U9NA== Click on "Dram configuration." Switch "Timing Mode" to manual or expert. Then you should get something like the bottom screen. Change the "Memclock Index value" to 166MHz. That should do the trick. ;)

If you can't find that, just look for something that is talking about memory and either says default, auto or 200MHz next to it. Switch those to something lower (166MHz) and you should be able to raise your overclock some more. You lose a bit of memory bandwidth, but CPU performance is about 5x more important.
 
he got a nice 400 mhz overclock thats not bad ! i think once he gets the kinks out maybe 2.6 ? i doubt the jetway can overclock like a dfi :)
 
Definitely not bad. :cool: I'll bet his chip can do more.

Oh and DFI has no 939 mATX board, so they're not even competing. ;)
 
k ill try that a little later, my bro wants to play some wc3. Also i have a Zalman 7000 cu cpu cooler but when i boot up it says the cpu temp is around 45C and the system temp is 25C but when I'm running programs i touch the heatsink and its not even warm. Is that bad?

also im using this Athena 450w micro psu. it got 7 good reviews on newegg but I'm getting an OCZ modstream 450 in 2 days. I was surprized, the x800xl doesnt take a pci e power cord
 
Vanilla Coke said:
k ill try that a little later, my bro wants to play some wc3. Also i have a Zalman 7000 cu cpu cooler but when i boot up it says the cpu temp is around 45C and the system temp is 25C but when I'm running programs i touch the heatsink and its not even warm. Is that bad?

also im using this Athena 450w micro psu. it got 7 good reviews on newegg but I'm getting an OCZ modstream 450 in 2 days. I was surprized, the x800xl doesnt take a pci e power cord
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45° should be fine. What's the voltage @ now? Ya most X800XLs don't use a power cord. Like I said, you *might* have problems. tw3ak over on EOCF had a 6600GT, ran into the power issue and removing just a tiny blower from his system was enough to put him back in the green!

VC, can you do one last thing and check the actual vcore in the "health status" tab on your bios? I want to know if it can do 1.55v when you set it to 1.55v. You have to restart for it to take effect. No rush, I'm just playing with the idea of switching to this board.
 
Sorry for the delay guys. ok i checked it at 1.55 and in health status it says its at 1.56 so I think we're good. I tried pushing the OC some more last night but couldnt get it to boot past 2.45. and should i be worried that the heatsink isnt warm at all? I checked to make sure it was connected properly and everything seems to be fine.
 
not bad results at all. I ordered the mini jetway mobo too. It shall get here monday. I have a venice 3000+ so I hope I can OC a bit.
 
I'm using an Athena 450w matx, gunna try to oc summore and check my temps with an OCZ modstream 450 tommorow. using a basic crap case rite now untill my new one arrives
 
Vanilla Coke said:
Sorry for the delay guys. ok i checked it at 1.55 and in health status it says its at 1.56 so I think we're good. I tried pushing the OC some more last night but couldnt get it to boot past 2.45. and should i be worried that the heatsink isnt warm at all? I checked to make sure it was connected properly and everything seems to be fine.
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It's generally hard to tell. As long as it's not "cool" then you should be okay. :cool:

You're not going to be able to boot past 2.45ghz until you change the divider. But while you're there, check to see what timings you can adjust. I can only adjust my CL (CAS Latency) on this board and I noticed the EQS Radeon Xpress board I linked to above has the same problem. Do you have any other options under Dram timings beside CL? Not a big deal, because most serious overclockers are going to adjust all of these settings later with tweaker in windows, but I was just wondering.

Looks like Dillusion can give this board some stars! ;)
 
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