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Understandable even though the x1950 is a better pick over the 7900GS.
I only chimed in here when you posted that you were only looking at Nvidia. For a holdover card the 7600GT is not too bad.
I see the supply of 1950 AGP's has dried up. $179 New ($149 Open box) at newegg vs $139 for the...
You know I respect the loyalty thing but when it gets in the way of common sense I have to speak out. The ATI x1950 AGP is so much faster than either of those cards that's it's not even funny. Nvidia decides to drop AGP on the mid-high end but ATI comes out with the nice x1950 and you do not...
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Some people on this board think that the only correct choice is Nvidia and the 8800.
I never saw a larger collection of fanboys in one forum :)
-JB
I have been going back and forth about this myself with several really great suggestions here on this board but I could not pass up on the email Newegg sent me adding a whoping $5 off the 4200+ LOL.
So I ordered the 4200+ (2200mhz) for $67 over the op which is a better chip but since I got...
Maybe you should read...
Where do I say that the x1950 is 50% faster? I claim. which is true. that the "shader" performance is 50% faster. This does not mean 50% faster in FPS but it was said to show why the x1950 is faster (to what extent is not the issue) that the 1800 even though the 1950...
Click on my link above and look at the shader performance.
The 1800XT has 4 extra pipes but it only has a 1-1 shader to pipe design.
1800XT = 16 pipes, 16 shaders
1950Pro=12 pipes, 36 shaders
1950XT=16 pipes, 48 shaders
The 1800XT is clocked a bit higher and the 4 extra pipes mean...
No... I upgrade every year but I buy the card that has been out for a year. This way I always pay 1/3 the cost.
So while you pay $350ish every year for the latest and greatest, I pay under $150 for the card that you paid $350ish a year before.
This has worked up until recently because the...
Like DX10 or not the simple fact that you 8600 owners seem to be in denial is that the 8600's have no bandwidth. This has nothing to do with DX10. I am on record saying that if the 8600 had a 256-bit interface instead of only a 128-bit interface that I would have prob bought it.
Now right...
Depends on the price. I would not spend $80 on a x850 if a x1950 will only cost $40 more. If you only need a few months then see if you can wait it out.
INHO if you pop in a x1950GT you can get at least another year on your system. The AMD 2500+ (oc'ed to 3200+) is still decent. Many people...
And by the time this happens the 8600's will be too slow to run those games anyway. Even the 8800's which are 3x the speed are not doing so well in DX10.
The problem with the 8600's is not DX10 or it's features but rather the 128-bit slow memory. How making DX10 optimizations will help...
IMHO I think that "some" people who already own DX10.0 cards somehow feel like that are on some crusade to convice others (and themselves) that their top-of-the-line video card will no longer be top-of-the-line. DX10.1 may or may not mean anything but it's the very notion that the new stuff can...
My 6800 Ultra lasted me 2+ years and I would still be using it had the Vista drivers not been so horrid months ago.
When you make statements like this you automatically assume that "everyone" has an unlimited budget and needs the very best each year.
Someday I hope to enter this catagory...
Pick up a cheap x1950GT from newegg.com and you will get a huge upgrade for about $115ish
The 8600's are crippled with slow 128-bit memory and while they may look a bit faster on paper over the 1950's they end up being at least 25% slower due to the crippled memory.
DX10 on the 8600's is...
ROTFL yeah the "only" card that beats the 8600 is the x1950 but they also share the same price point.
It's pretty clear that the 8600's cannot perform well enough in DX10 to count so when you compare DX9 in the 8600 vs 1950 then who buys a 8600 when it costs the same?
-JB