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John C Dvorak, tech journalist that famously said the mouse would fail and long time co-host of No Agenda dies at 80(ish)

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John C Dvorak wrote for many computer magazines including Computer Shopper, InfoWorld & PC Magazine during the 80's and 90's and helped at CNET. in the early 2000's he started showing up on This Week In Tech (TWiT). He met ex-MTV VJ (and the real pod father™) Adam Curry (who also was on TWiT from time to time) and they started the No Agenda Podcast in 2007. John and Adam were eventually both banned from TWiT for not being politically correct which solidified their decision to do No Agenda full time. It was around 2011 that someone on this forum casually mentioned the podcast and I tried it out having been familiar with John's writing growing up. I had been listening and donating ever since.

On February 19th 1984 Dvorak wrote in the San Francisco Examiner that the mouse was a reason Apple Inc.’s Macintosh computer would fail: “The Macintosh uses an experimental pointing device called a ‘mouse’. There is no evidence that people want to use these things.”

It had long been reported that John was born in 1952 (making him 74). On the episode after John's passing, Adam and John's wife revealed that John had lied a long time ago about his age during an interview and that the date got picked up by the internet search engines and became fact and so he just went with that. He was actually born in 1946, making him 80.
ITM! :cry:
 
A name from the past........Dvorak in print and Stuart Cheifet on PBS were two of those "Elder Guys in Computing" that young guys like me began paying more attention to as we were beginning to transitiong from a kids world of PC gaming to an adults world of PC working............................RIP to them both.
 
So he had nothing to do with the Dvorak keyboard layout?
The internet claims he is from the same family tree (nephew).
 

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Ironic the mouse out lived him.
Dvorak liked to point out that he reviewed the Apple version of the mouse, which I think he might have a point that there still is no evidence that people have ever wanted a Apple mouse. Apple mice have always sucked. They did get the trackpad right, but when people think of the usefulness of the mouse, they are thinking of the PC side of the evolutionary line. I have always used a PC mouse on Macs (if needing a mouse). Apple only used 1 button on the mouse until they eventually turned the mouse into a curved trackpad.
 
Dvorak liked to point out that he reviewed the Apple version of the mouse, which I think he might have a point that there still is no evidence that people have ever wanted a Apple mouse.
Hah, I still remember the horrors of pushing around my grandparents hockey puck. Since it was completely round, the single button would rotate to the side and you would be clicking on the side of the mouse. Awful.
Apple tends to overemphasize looks over functionality. I never understood paying extra for a product you use every day that works worse. P.S. Also I hate texting on iOS - copy/paste functionality is crap.
 
Hah, I still remember the horrors of pushing around my grandparents hockey puck. Since it was completely round, the single button would rotate to the side and you would be clicking on the side of the mouse. Awful.
Apple tends to overemphasize looks over functionality. I never understood paying extra for a product you use every day that works worse. P.S. Also I hate texting on iOS - copy/paste functionality is crap.
Apple had solid mice in that middle era when it had just gone optical, but I'll agree the company has never completely understood them. With that said, Jony Ive is no longer at Apple and the incoming CEO (John Ternus) is a nuts-and-bolts product person; if there's a Magic Mouse replacement, it'll probably be considerably better.
 
Nah. But, that's one big reason the name sticks out for me. I've been reading his articles for decades. Old Computer Shopper mags that were as thick as a ream of paper.
Getting LOST in every issue of Computer Shopper...almost as much fun as when those Traveling Circus "Computer Fair" roadshows would take over the conference room at the Ramada or Holiday Inn near the airport a few times a year....."you want discounted hard drives, I have them.....".......
Thx for the Nostalgia.
 
RIP I remember him very well.

btw Dvorak is also a famous classical composer, could possibly be from the same family as well! It's a slavic name.
 
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