To help contain the plasma of the fusion reaction, they are starting to use AI technology on the magnetic field.
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To help contain the plasma of the fusion reaction, they are starting to use AI technology on the magnetic field.
This is all in theory man... I am not talking about in the next 20 or 100 years for that matter. Imagine in 250 years that yes we probably will have a generator that runs on nothing but water. Water has an incredible amount of energy potential in those hydrogen bonds and atoms.
If we survive a thousand years as a species imagine we could have Ironman arc reactor sized generators that could power an entire building or spaceship. This all dreaming dude stop being so literal.
If our energy needs are ever met, we will simply find new ways to expend it again. It will never be met.
Humanity will never rest.
I think there are practical limits. Say you're rich. How many mansions can you own? How many before staying in one feels like staying in a hotel and no longer feels like home?If our energy needs are ever met, we will simply find new ways to expend it again. It will never be met.
Humanity will never rest.
Or it could be a ruse. Put something on paper that is publicly available. Now everyone is scrambling to try to "catch up" with their own designs, and waste resources they can't afford trying to copy the US Navy's success.There was a time when working models were required to get a patent.
Since the emergence of software patents, it seems that hardware patent requirements have become softer.
I think this is a BS patent foisted on the Navy by some snake oil guy with a very persuasive patter.
Your comment reminds me of the antigun people that think a pistol grip and a heat shield for a hand guard constitutes 50,000 bullets per second out of an AR15.
We will never have cheap electrical power. There will always be someone around to capitalize on the technology. Whether or not it's being fed by one reaction mass or another doesn't really matter. Nothing in life is free. Commercially viable Fusion Technology should scare the shit out of us more than it doesn't. The moment the first one pops up, everyone will be vying for it willing to steal and or blow the shit out of anyone to get it. Unlimited power = unlimited danger.Fusion power generation has likely been in research stages for over 50 years, and along the way I would imagine that many things/technologies/processes discovered along the way have been patented.
I would not take the fact that some patents have been filed as proof of success for an economically viable fusion reactor.
Not being pessimistic, just realistic.
It would be great for the environment if Fusion ever becomes practical, no more burning fossil fuels in power plants. With cheap electrical power, moving to electric vehicles would also become more cost effective thus more attractive. Cheap electricity plus a better battery technology would make gas powered cars obsolete. It can't come soon enough.
We will never have cheap electrical power. There will always be someone around to capitalize on the technology. Whether or not it's being fed by one reaction mass or another doesn't really matter. Nothing in life is free. Commercially viable Fusion Technology should scare the shit out of us more than it doesn't. The moment the first one pops up, everyone will be vying for it willing to steal and or blow the shit out of anyone to get it. Unlimited power = unlimited danger.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to see an electrical grid that rivals the shit in the roleplaying game Shadow Run or some sort of Cyberpunk setting. That would be great, I just expect that the topography of the Earth will likely change in short order with the advent of Commercially viable Fusion tech.
So the immense heat and pressure required to contain the fusion reaction, if interrupted and allowed to escape uncontrollably will do what exactly? quietly go pfffffft like a small balloon, or go KAFUCKINGBOOOOOM! Since we're talking about non-existant technology, my votes on the second.
Okay, you're right to some extent, but only considering this would be a reactor making huge energy, but if there is a fusion reactor made for a car, it means it will be such a tiny reaction that it will be easy to contain.What part of magnetically confined plasma sounds safe in an automobile collision to you?
Perhaps you can enlighten me as to the pressure and temperature required to create this plasma?
I don't think i'm the one who needs to study physics. This entire thread is based on assumptions, as this technology is non-existent. Just because someone has been able fuse a couple hydrogen atoms in a lab in a net negative reaction, does not mean this technology exists.
Not for free, of course, but very inexpensive and like Moore's Law will be more and more inexpensive with better tech, with time.I'd argue as long as Entropy is a law of the universe and we observe it, even a power grid that was truly free will eventually become not free because the entropy of the system of freedom will breakdown.
Okay, you're right to some extent, but only considering this would be a reactor making huge energy, but if there is a fusion reactor made for a car, it means it will be such a tiny reaction that it will be easy to contain.
But there is a problem and it's much bigger than that. If someone can build a compact fusion reactor, he is also able to build a compact nuclear fusion bomb using a chain reaction. And maybe it would be even easier than building a commercial reactor. This means an H bomb without plutonium or uranium but only the fusion material. And this is about what is what is going on Z-machines experiments.
Fuel cells use chemical energy. For example, they can't extract energy from water.It’s called a fuel cell.
How does a fusion bomb work? Fusion systems to my understanding as as we know it has a Delta G < 0 thus it can't be spontaneous and it can't be runaway. It has to literally be forced to the most extreme limits of pressure and density to overcome the electrostatic forces of hydrogen nuclei. We know that electrostatics is far more powerful than gravity, but gravity is a different kind of force, a really really weak force. Thus you need gigantic amounts of matter that can coalesce into a mass dense enough to overcome electrostatic repulsion. Gravity is just the space time influence of mass on space time. Its matter forming a mass that actually warps space time. If enough mass exists in a given space and the density is sufficient then we can overcome repulsive forces and slam atoms together. In fact fusing H and He atoms is the limit of gravitational influence for these atoms to fall so deep in a space time warp that anymore warping of that space time and you get a black hole, and hell maybe a black hole singularity is the ulttimate form of fusion in which atoms are simply fused into a new element, maybe dark matter, or maybe just obliterated. No one knows. But I can ascertain that from our existing understanding of nuclear physics we just can't produce hot fusion on Earth in any sustainable manner unless we found a way to super compress matter into a mass dense enough to overcome electrostatics. Now were talking SciFi like Men in Black international where that little super gun they carried around had a main sequence star compressed to the size of a baseball inside a glass bottle. To me fusion is just science fiction on the scale of humanity. But cold fusion might be something else worth talking about but I dont think we are even close to that. I am sure we have alien tech that is far superior to fusion in some Darpa lab underground somewhere but thats all a "well never know" kinda scenario.
Anyways, we have found life in space (my opinion). NASA already has. They are now softening the pulbic for it's release by leaking and slowly painting the picture over the next few years. I am almost certain we have anti-gravity aircraft, scalar weapons, and power generation that will blow your mind from our governments.
https://www.space.com/29041-alien-life-evidence-by-2025-nasa.html
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/wor...but-ignored-it-scientist-claims-a4261631.html
So my point, a fun point is, if we have contacted life, not martians, but superior life forms, is it not possible that we have shit that will blow your mind that we are not ready to hear about as a species so governments just bury it in mountain research labs and play hush hush, including some form of fusion that we have been discussing for days now.
We have reactors that can do over a minute now and are building ones that can do 10 minutes +. Imagine if we had a fusion race... instead of trillions blowing each other up.
Oh well.
Nor should humanity rest. We should keep pushing and pushing until will fill up every nook and cranny and niche in the universe we can. I daresay that's our duty as the only known sentient creatures in existence. The wonders of the universe aren't worth a lump of coal without sentient beings being to witness it.If our energy needs are ever met, we will simply find new ways to expend it again. It will never be met.
Humanity will never rest.
Yes and a hydrogen-oxygen fuel cell produces water as a by-product.Fuel cells use chemical energy. For example, they can't extract energy from water.
This is true. Why did you bring up fuel cells in this thread though?Yes and a hydrogen-oxygen fuel cell produces water as a by-product.
I dream of the day that we dont need money and shit and wars and crap. Just the whole species pulls together. We could already be colonizing distant star systems right now, but as you said "Oh well".
I agree with you.
This is true. Why did you bring up fuel cells in this thread though?
This is all in theory man... I am not talking about in the next 20 or 100 years for that matter. Imagine in 250 years that yes we probably will have a generator that runs on nothing but water. Water has an incredible amount of energy potential in those hydrogen bonds and atoms.
If we survive a thousand years as a species imagine we could have Ironman arc reactor sized generators that could power an entire building or spaceship. This all dreaming dude stop being so literal.
The more technology we get, the lazier and stupider we become.
The only way we will do something ambitious in a short period of time is if we have no other choice.
Well I guess I would argue it's about as different of a concept as it gets, both practically in its application, and in the theory of how it works. But I suppose at that point we are just arguing opinions.because..
A generator that doesn't run on water but simply uses Hydrogen and Oxygen with a byproduct of water. Very close concept.
Clean inexhaustible energy. Go ahead and argue if you want.Well I guess I would argue it's about as different of a concept as it gets, both practically in its application, and in the theory of how it works. But I suppose at that point we are just arguing opinions.
This is all in theory man... I am not talking about in the next 20 or 100 years for that matter. Imagine in 250 years that yes we probably will have a generator that runs on nothing but water. Water has an incredible amount of energy potential in those hydrogen bonds and atoms.
Chemically you are correct. Atomically, no. Hydrogen itself (regardless of how its chemically bonded) has an enormous amount of energy. But fusion is not easy.No, we won't. Water separation requires more energy than can be produced from the hydrogen.
Or we will, by using water's quantum tunneling state to separate the hydrogen and oxygen. This is accomplished by passing cooled water through cyclosilicate. Don't doubt future innovation.No, we won't. Water separation requires more energy than can be produced from the hydrogen.
True. I have often wondered if water electrolysis would be a good energy storage medium for the 'unreliable' wind and solar energy generators. Take the excess energy produced and store as chemical energy instead of messing with batteries. Then use a fuel cell when the sun goes down or wind stops blowing.No, we won't. Water separation requires more energy than can be produced from the hydrogen.
True. I have often wondered if water electrolysis would be a good energy storage medium for the 'unreliable' wind and solar energy generators. Take the excess energy produced and store as chemical energy instead of messing with batteries. Then use a fuel cell when the sun goes down or wind stops blowing.
Probably not practical for the off the grid homeowner, but should be for utilities?
They're dopey enough to give it away to the world. NASA for sure right now, DOE upon the next administration.Stupid question...Why have Navy patent it and not NASA or Department of Energy or maybe the new Space Force?
Seems strange.
No, we won't. Water separation requires more energy than can be produced from the hydrogen.