AMD Next Horizons Announced

I would not put to much into this, it might be something just for a section of their investors to keep a media profile on their own roadmap with little to no new information beside things that are obvious (new gpu (RX 590?) this month maybe new 7nm Vega for the professional market in Q1 of 2019?).

Since Zen2 (desktop) is a good deal later next year it will prolly lack details (pricing and clockspeed).
 
That doesn't seem to be a good idea. Discourage holiday sales of your current processors?
 
maxius said:
you have a process edge for the first time in history why would you sit on product?
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If they were going to be releasing them in Q4'18, then absolutely, but they probably won't be released until late Q1'19 or early Q2'19 just like their other launches. So it isn't like they are sitting on product.
 
kirbyrj said:
If they were going to be releasing them in Q4'18, then absolutely, but they probably won't be released until late Q1'19 or early Q2'19 just like their other launches. So it isn't like they are sitting on product.
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SHOCKER THEY PLANED ON RELEASING IN Q4 18 THE TIMELINE FITS!
 
Pieter3dnow said:
What do you guys mean Zen 2 is slated for somewhere in 2019 1H? That would be Ryzen 3xxx series for us.
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I know that. My point is that why in the world would you start talking up Zen2 (Ryzen 3XXX) when you aren't planning on releasing them for another 5 months, especially when you have the holiday shopping season around the corner.
 
kirbyrj said:
I know that. My point is that why in the world would you start talking up Zen2 (Ryzen 3XXX) when you aren't planning on releasing them for another 5 months, especially when you have the holiday shopping season around the corner.
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Server is ready, Server is high margin, server is key, desktop is second hat to server sales! the 7nm zen2 core will be used in all the things, as i said previously amd has a process advantage over intel for the first time in history (thank you tsmc) and they will leverage it against intels 14nm++++ server parts that are having shortages and come out on top
 
maxius said:
Server is ready, Server is high margin, server is key, desktop is second hat to server sales! the 7nm zen2 core will be used in all the things, as i said previously amd has a process advantage over intel for the first time in history (thank you tsmc) and they will leverage it against intels 14nm++++ server parts that are having shortages and come out on top
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Fair enough. I was reading more about it elsewhere and it sounds like a server CPU event.
 
kirbyrj said:
Fair enough. I was reading more about it elsewhere and it sounds like a server CPU event.
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the core shall be reused for ryzen 3xxx and w/e else amd's semicustom business wants and we are likely seeing the release of a 7nm vega cards that will be matching with nv's data center and workstation tiers
 
kirbyrj said:
I know that. My point is that why in the world would you start talking up Zen2 (Ryzen 3XXX) when you aren't planning on releasing them for another 5 months, especially when you have the holiday shopping season around the corner.
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same reason intel randomly announced the 9k series right when zen+(ryzen 2000 series) released.. to persuade buyers to wait.
 
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Was planning on going TR but seems more prudent to do that next year, foremost I don't need it now. So I will update case, power supply etc. so when I do upgrade it will be much simpler. I expect a newer chipset and newer motherboards to launch along with the 7nm Zen line. Now if the 2950x comes down to like $499 or something that would be too tempting to pass up.
 
kirbyrj said:
I know that. My point is that why in the world would you start talking up Zen2 (Ryzen 3XXX) when you aren't planning on releasing them for another 5 months, especially when you have the holiday shopping season around the corner.
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It is a PR event that means you say stuff that is vague and mostly meant for investors to sell your shiny outlook for the future.

Nothing wrong with that it is just that some folks have trouble understanding why corporations not always are to the point. The message in the media is not for everyone.
 
Well there ya go... the Z in the picture has a 7.

It's all about 7nm.

Probably serve parts but I bet Zen2 desktop is announced also.
 
tangoseal said:
From Techspot....

It's almost definitely announcing Ryzen 2 with Zen 2 7nm cores.. my logical guess.

Looks I'll be replacing both my 2600x and my Threadripper 2 with zen 2 eventually.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...ext-horizon-revealed-major-event-tuesday.html
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Interesting. You would have been a day ahead if you read our news page.

https://www.hardocp.com/news/2018/11/02/amd_next_horizon_event_scheduled_for_november_6/

That said, I am not in Cali right now....
 
Ah but what goes to the data center will trickle down to the mainstream market in one form or another pretty soon after. So it is still a good thing to see what is heading our way even if we have to wait a little longer for it.
 
cyberguyz said:
Ah but what goes to the data center will trickle down to the mainstream market in one form or another pretty soon after. So it is still a good thing to see what is heading our way even if we have to wait a little longer for it.
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I can only think of Vega 7nm and that is without a doubt not coming for consumers if Navi is being launched next year.
 
I'm interested to see how the zen 2 7nm server cores perform. It should represent the desktop part In mny respects.
 
THey are just going to update their progress and they will most definitely talk about Epyc 2 based on zen 2 and vega 20 I think. That is what this will likely be about but we can get a pretty good idea about zen 2 from epyc 2 performance. IPC should carry over if they talk about that clock for clock. Also I do think they might drop a sentence or two about Navi or next ryzen chip. But like Kyle said primarily data center focus so most likely epyc 2. They might even be pushing hard to get that out later this year who knows if the process is going better than expected.
 
Wasn't the cat already out of the bag for Zen 2 ? The data centre version has double the cores and uses about the same Watt?
 
Pieter3dnow said:
Wasn't the cat already out of the bag for Zen 2 ? The data centre version has double the cores and uses about the same Watt?
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yes and no since that's all based on rumors and trying to read between the lines on things Lisa Su said in an investors meeting.. is a lot of it potentially right? probably, but until it's official it's just rumors.
 
So it has started...
I can't wait to see what comes out over the following hours!
 
https://www.anandtech.com/show/13547/amd-next-horizon-live-blog-starts-9am-pt-5pm-utc
Live blog here.

And Enjoy some OC to warm up ;)

so it begins a64 [H] kype edition.png
 
live stream:



oh and did I say zen 2 is looking good? I feel like intel is about to lose their shit, they sat on their asses for so long and AMD is leap frogging them ahead.

Papermaster is fucking juiced ROFL!
 
Pieter3dnow said:
Wasn't the cat already out of the bag for Zen 2 ? The data centre version has double the cores and uses about the same Watt?
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LOL everyone talking up adore TV right now on his channel, even Alex who is live streaming it actually said he is following Adored tv now. Hahaha. Looks like Adore TV got the EPYC info spot on.
 
NKD said:
LOL everyone talking up adore TV right now on his channel, even Alex who is live streaming it actually said he is following Adored tv now. Hahaha. Looks like Adore TV got the EPYC info spot on.
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pretty much as far as what was shown.
 
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pretty much as far as what was shown.
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I'm on a slow ass net stream, is it 14nm interposer = IO 'die' as they said, or a separate chiplet? because they didn't say chiplet as well.. to me that's notable because an active interposer is also a die..

My understanding was there would be something like

{chiplet}{chiplet}{chiplet} (Zen cores)
[ Active Interposer ] (IF, IO etc)

If so then my prediction were correct. What is going to be interesting if it's an 8core CCX due to removing most of the IO/IF etc off the chiplet, in either 1x8 or 2x8 or is it still 2x4? I doubt it as it was one of the main limitations. 1x8 big cache or 2x8 normal cache is where I think they'll go.
 
N4CR said:
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I'm on a slow ass net stream, is it 14nm interposer = IO 'die' as they said, or a separate chiplet? because they didn't say chiplet as well.. to me that's notable because an active interposer is also a die..

My understanding was there would be something like

{chiplet}{chiplet}{chiplet} (Zen cores)
[ Active Interposer ] (IF, IO etc)

If so then my prediction were correct. What is going to be interesting if it's an 8core CCX due to removing most of the IO/IF etc off the chiplet, in either 1x8 or 2x8 or is it still 2x4? I doubt it as it was one of the main limitations. 1x8 big cache or 2x8 normal cache is where I think they'll go.
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yes 14nm IO die plus 8 1x8 core 7nm dies/chiplets around it. lisa showed the processor on stage.

they showed a couple demo's.. did a single socket rome vs dual 8180 platinums in c-ray.. beat it by 2 seconds. they won't announce yet what the clock speeds are since they haven't made them official yet but they think they may be able to get them higher than current prototype chips..
 
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8 core chiplets confirmed! ROFL! bumped up for 4core ccx. intel on suicide watch. ROFL!
 
presentation part of the event is over and Lisa's a beast when it comes to public presentations..

Alex on tech says stream will be up in an hour when they get to see demo's and stuff.
 
NKD said:
8 core chiplets confirmed! ROFL! bumped up for 4core ccx. intel on suicide watch. ROFL!
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Yeah, but don't expect this to guarantee 16-core desktop processors on AM4. This just makes it easier to offer 64-core EPYC.

They can easily release the Zen 2 R7 as single-CCX. If the promised IPC improvements are there, it will sell itself.
 
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