Need Suggestions/Help on a Ryzen 2700 mITX build.

[Carc]

Hi guys! I am planning to build an Mitx PC and I could really use some help. Here are the parts I am planning to buy.

CPU: Ryzen 7 2700
MoBo: ASUS ROG Strix X470-I Gaming
RAM: G.Skill Flare X 16GB (F4-3200C14D-16GFX)
NVMe: Samsung 970 EVO 500gb

Case: Sharkoon QB One
PSU: Corsair SF600 Platinum (CP-9020182-NA)

I am planning to OC the CPU to 3.9-4ghz and the case only have 150mm/15cm clearance for HSF. Here are my pick so far. I dunno which one will be the prefect fit and the best performer without obstructing my RAM slots. Feel free to suggest if you know something much better.

- Noctua NH-C14S
- Be Silent! Dark Rock TF

By the way, should I stick with 2700 or go 2700x? I will be putting it on that small case so I worry about heat and fan noise. Anyone know which one will run cooler and more silent if both OC'ed to 3.9-4Ghz?

Also, I did not list a Video Card there coz I will buy it when I have enough $$$ to also buy a Vive or Oculus. Hopefully on or b4 Black Friday, the prices of both the VC and VR have come down a bit more than it is today.

 

[sirmonkey1985]

if you're going to manually overclock instead of using the boost option i'd go with the 2700. if you want to just stick with just using the built in boost go with the 2700x. if you have the space in the case maybe look at grabbing a 240mm aoi cooler.

 

[Carc]

Thanks for the reply but ya, I am planning to "OC it manually"... although ATM, I don't know how tbh I wanna know two things though.

- If OCing the 2700 to 3.7Ghz is cooler than running 2700x at stock.
- Which one will run cooler and more silent if both OC'ed to 4Ghz?

Also, I am not planning to use AIO LC coz of both lifespan and any liquid not being allowed to airport/planes(I wanna hand carry it).

 

[Neapolitan6th]

The NHC14S would work great. These top down coolers should help your VRM temps.

You have enough room in that case for 2 fans on the C14S. You could add Noctua's new NF-A12x25 fan which has great acoustics. Some reviews out there on it if you are interested in quiet fans.

I think the C14S should have better ram clearance as it doesn't have heatpipes on both side of the socket.

Also, I would think you should be able to overclock a 2700x to 4.1, 4.2, or even 4.3ghz on such a large cooler.

Part selections looks great!

 

[sirmonkey1985]

Thanks for the reply but ya, I am planning to "OC it manually"... although ATM, I don't know how tbh I wanna know two things though.

- If OCing the 2700 to 3.7Ghz is cooler than running 2700x at stock.
- Which one will run cooler and more silent if both OC'ed to 4Ghz?

Also, I am not planning to use AIO LC coz of both lifespan and any liquid not being allowed to airport/planes(I wanna hand carry it).

overclocking ryzen is easy.. change the multiplier and change voltage either up or down til it's stable.. they'll overclock pretty much the same, they'll run the same temps.. only difference is that the 2700 has a lower base clock which allows for a lower base clock voltage and thus lower TDP rating than the 2700x.

personally unless you're planning to use all 16 threads at 100% load all the time i'd honestly go with the 2700x and use the performance boost option.. you should stay at or above 4Ghz even if you're using all 16 threads. way easier then just leaving it at 4Ghz all the time since you're losing out on the performance gain on single threaded applications where the cpu would boost to 4.3Ghz(4.1Ghz for the 2700).. now if you were trying to get 4.2Ghz across all 16 threads which might be a stretch temp wise for what you want to do then yeah definitely manually overclock. kyle was able to get 3.96Ghz boost using the stock cooler across all 16 threads so with an aftermarket cooler 4Ghz should be easy across all 16 threads.

 

[Carc]

The NHC14S would work great. These top down coolers should help your VRM temps.

You have enough room in that case for 2 fans on the C14S. You could add Noctua's new NF-A12x25 fan which has great acoustics. Some reviews out there on it if you are interested in quiet fans.

I think the C14S should have better ram clearance as it doesn't have heatpipes on both side of the socket.

Also, I would think you should be able to overclock a 2700x to 4.1, 4.2, or even 4.3ghz on such a large cooler.

Part selections looks great!

Thanks! Also, those are good fans!... but very expensive I might end up buying one for the C14S though. Sadly, I have a new problem I found out when I was looking at the reviews of A12x25 that not all fans are "worth it" for a case intake/exhaust fan

Can you—or anyone—recommend a good, silent enough, and cheap 120mm & 80mm case fans?

 

[Carc]

overclocking ryzen is easy.. change the multiplier and change voltage either up or down til it's stable.. they'll overclock pretty much the same, they'll run the same temps.. only difference is that the 2700 has a lower base clock which allows for a lower base clock voltage and thus lower TDP rating than the 2700x.

personally unless you're planning to use all 16 threads at 100% load all the time i'd honestly go with the 2700x and use the performance boost option.. you should stay at or above 4Ghz even if you're using all 16 threads. way easier then just leaving it at 4Ghz all the time since you're losing out on the performance gain on single threaded applications where the cpu would boost to 4.3Ghz(4.1Ghz for the 2700).. now if you were trying to get 4.2Ghz across all 16 threads which might be a stretch temp wise for what you want to do then yeah definitely manually overclock. kyle was able to get 3.96Ghz boost using the stock cooler across all 16 threads so with an aftermarket cooler 4Ghz should be easy across all 16 threads.

Thanks for the input! But ya, I might end up buying the 2700x since I can't find any good deal for an unused 2700... I just hope I am not too late

If I go that route though and with that QB One case, will the stock cooler be enough to use for the 2700x & PB2(especially if that thing can go 4.3Ghz)?. Also, which is better for my CPU's life? Use stock cooler with PB2 or C14S OC'ed to 4Ghz? I want it to last at least for 5-6 years and just change VC 2-3 times along the way. I am still using 1st Gen Core i3 530 and I am getting CPU bottlenecked by it more and more every day.

 

[Sodapopjones]

Thanks for the input! But ya, I might end up buying the 2700x since I can't find any good deal for an unused 2700... I just hope I am not too late

If I go that route though and with that QB One case, will the stock cooler be enough to use for the 2700x & PB2(especially if that thing can go 4.3Ghz)?. Also, which is better for my CPU's life? Use stock cooler with PB2 or C14S OC'ed to 4Ghz? I want it to last at least for 5-6 years and just change VC 2-3 times along the way. I am still using 1st Gen Core i3 530 and I am getting CPU bottlenecked by it more and more every day.

The stock cooler will be fine on the 2700x at stock, its not going to 4.3ghz on all cores.......... Just plop it in the socket and be done, I wouldn't bother oc'ing unless you've got a real case, space and cooler, you're also not going to see any difference in the real world.

 

[Neapolitan6th]

Good call with the Asus ITX board by the way. It along with (maybe) the MSI ITX boards are the only ones with true 6 phase VRMs which will definitely help with the 2700x.

The asrock, gigabyte, and biostar boards are either 3+3 or 4.

Though if you are looking to save $50-$60. You can find the Asus Strix b350-I board for about $150 USD now. Shares the same 6 phase VRM as its bigger brother.

You'll be happy either way