Marvel, Star Wars Will Go Exclusively to Disney's New Streaming Service

Saw this coming. For years everyone said that they only wanted to pay for the stuff they wanted to watch. It wasn't too hard to imagine the different content providers dividing everything up so they get the money directly from viewers instead of cable provider bundles. You might only want to watch/pay for 10 shows but that doesn't mean you won't end up paying 10 different content providers to see 'em.

I don't want any of that nonsense. I just want the "everything" bundle prices to stay reasonable.
 
Just like the political spectrum, there is a fine line where consumers benefit the most.

There is a delicate balance between monopolistic practices (only 1-2 companies offering media) and extreme fragmentation (where there are 10 video services, each at $10/mo). Best to be somewhere in the middle.
 
Dillirium said:
Wait what!!! All creditability lost just now. Iron Fist SUCKKKKKED IMO.
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Yes, Iron Fist sucked, and sucked even further for his part in The Defenders. However, they made great shows for the other 3 Marvel properties, and did a great job with The Punisher for his part in DD Season 2. I doubt they'll screw up his series. So, they're doing well, very well.
 
grtitan said:
But we the consumers do have the last word.

All we have to do is to stop subscribing to every single one of these damned services and stick with one or two and you will see how quickly we will get the content on only those services.

Sadly, people today are not willing to do any type of temporary sacrifice to send the message.
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Yeah, I am a bit interested to see what will come of this. Disney has a pretty big IP and does have a lot of loyal followers. I am sure that they (rightly) see this as an opportunity to directly benefit from streaming services themselves. And part of me sees this as a way out of buying TV packages, if stations offer streaming services you can subscribe to instead with more content. However, I have a feeling the prices for the streaming aren't going to be competitive with the TV package deals.

I am sure they will lose some revenue from people like me who don't give a damn about Disney or their streaming services. They will probably still get some of my money from DVD sales, but I don't feel like signing up for more streaming services, I already have too many.
 
Oh, how they will whine about pirates ruining their service.

They're all idiots, it seems to me. All short sighted, greedy idiots. If you can get 20 shows for a subscription of corse everyone flocks to streaming. But when you start saturating the market and each service will only provide a few shows that you want to watch then you end up with less customers in the entire market not just your own weasely service. Not to mention that people have to use a completely different client / software for each service.

Is it really that hard for these corporate a-holes to realize that this won't work? That they're better off with getting royalties from netflix than saturating the market with a no doubt initially shit service? You're late to the market #dealwithit. Or is their goal : " if we can't rule it then no-one shall " ?
Netflix / amazon prime is already too much. It's another question that I refuse to subscribe to either until they give up drm and geoblokcing, but that's an entirely different debate.
 
There is no way I'm paying $10+ a month to 20 different services.

Netflixs own content keeps me entertained... and frankly I barely have the time to keep up with the best Netflix shows. With them planning to add even more. I'm more and more likely to just forget anything else is out there. Really after GOT ends I can't think of all that much I plan to watch.

Whatever isn't covered by Netflix if its really really must watch... only option really is to go on account.

Netflix really needs to talk some of these companies into buyin into and using their tech / servers / service. There is no way I pay another $10+ a month for anything really. However if Netflix offered sub options like a cable company (within reason). Something like Add $5 a month for a Disney package that included everything Disney is going to cook up for their own service. (not just the handful of movies on netflix now) That is something I would support. I refuse to pay for 5 different services... but would I pay $30 a month for Netflix+HBO+Disney+CBC/NBC ect all provided through Netflix, yes I would perhaps I would even go as hgih as $50 if I really didn't have to look anywhere else for anything. I know good luck having any of those companies go that route and anoint Netflix winner. Still I can dream.
 
Bandalo said:
And compare that number to the total amount of stuff streamed or downloaded LEGALLY across all streaming services.

Fringe.
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u mean just hbo go cuz thats the only place u can stream GOTs. 1 billion downloads is not fringe in any sense of the word
 
Eh, I've been anti-Disney for years (for their efforts to screw up copyrights) so this is just another nail in the coffin. I don't really watch TV any more (only 10 minutes of news in the morning) and the wifey doesn't stream so we won't be subscribing.
 
AthlonXP said:
Well that is good to know but still really crappy for the overall market, it seems like the streaming services are basically getting too fragmented in which makes it not even worth considering if you want to be a cord cutter.
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That fragmentation sucks. I pick and choose which will give me the best value and what I will watch the most of. I won't go for this. I buy my Marvel movies on BR, same with Star Wars. If I like a Disney movie, I'll buy it. So, they get my money in a different way. But, I won't be streaming them.

Disney will make bank with this, though. Many parents will get it for their kids. It's Disney, it's always a good buy when you have kids.
 
Bandalo said:
Have you met Disney? Do you have kids? Every damn parent in the US will be signing up for this service, just for the kid's shows and movies, not for the Marvel or Star Wars stuff.
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Not my two boys. They have yet to see a Disney channel. And they could care less.
 
We only need 1 universal streaming service... These companies need to get over their greed and do what the consumers want, otherwise their pursuit of pure greed will cost them A LOT of money. Same goes with digital distrubtion. Steam, Origin, Uplay, Battlenet, Bethesda Launcher, Sega Launcher, etc... Just stop!
 
*facepalm*

Content owners really are their own worst enemies. Because they can't agree on how big their piece of the pie should be, they're going to end up messing up the entire pie...
 
Lets not forget that DC is also launching a streaming service that will have exclusives such as Titans and Young Justice.
 
Chunder said:
We only need 1 universal streaming service... These companies need to get over their greed and do what the consumers want, otherwise their pursuit of pure greed will cost them A LOT of money. Same goes with digital distrubtion. Steam, Origin, Uplay, Battlenet, Bethesda Launcher, Sega Launcher, etc... Just stop!
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It's called Kodi.
 
Advil said:
I think that having it behind their own paywall, where you are buying only Disney content, will have a far more dampening effect than you realize. Not only do you have to specifically pay for just this, but you also have to be not-lazy enough to bother subscribing to yet another service. Convenience is a huge driver.
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I agree with Bandalo. I have 5 kids and i tell you now, if I could have dropped my cable and got all the disney shows in one place in whatever order or time slot they wanted to watch it, I would have. Luckily my kids are all over the age of 6 now and have no interest in TV. Disney Jr was a staple channel in our home for almost a decade as one kid moved out of the channel, another moved in.

You guys underestimate the following for both movies and shows. The movies only release so often as well, so having the entire lineup at your finger tips is a big deal, maybe even so for adults that grew up on the original movies.
 
DigitalGriffin said:
Not my two boys. They have yet to see a Disney channel. And they could care less.
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I won't rag on your choice of wording here, but the reason they couldn't care less is because they haven't seen it. I couldn't care less about things I have yet to see, either. That DOES make sense, right?
 
I'm subscribed to Netflix, not subscribing to any other services.

If its not on Netflix, I get it with couchpotato or Sonarr. Easily manages all the downloads, finds the shows, and moves them to my server all automatically. Not moving on to any other streaming services unless everything can be had in one place.
 
It's bullshit.

This type of fragmentation with everyone wanting to distribute their own content with their own service is what is ruining streaming.

All I want is a single unified service I can pay a a single fee to, and search and play ALL content.

What we are turning into is analogous to a physical media situation where every single studio has their own media format, so you have to buy one player per studio in order to watch the content.

It's absolutely moronic.
 
spinach_chin said:
You think piracy is "fringe"?

http://news.sky.com/story/game-of-thrones-season-7-pirated-more-than-a-billion-times-11024050

Nothing that happens over a billion times is fringe.
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Also, a fun fact: I bought HBO Service for GoT.

It was such a fucking headache to get running every week that my GF told me to cancel it, because it took 20 minutes to get HBO to log in every sunday to watch the show, it was seriously that bad.

Neither HBO nor Hulu could fix the issue, so I cancelled service and had downloaded the episode in less than 5 minutes.

I *tried* to be a good guy and pay for the service, but the actual service was so bad I quit and torrented instead.
 
dgingeri said:
Yes, Iron Fist sucked, and sucked even further for his part in The Defenders. However, they made great shows for the other 3 Marvel properties, and did a great job with The Punisher for his part in DD Season 2. I doubt they'll screw up his series. So, they're doing well, very well.
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I'm hoping the next step for Iron Fist is to just be the second to Luke Cage in their own "Heroes for Hire" series, or just as a duo on Luke's own show. Iron Fist does NOT need a second season.
 
Bandalo said:
Have you met Disney? Do you have kids? Every damn parent in the US will be signing up for this service, just for the kid's shows and movies, not for the Marvel or Star Wars stuff.
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My kids are a bit too old to worry about this any more, but if they had done this 10 years ago, I still would have not subscribed. We would have just watched a lot less Disney
 
nutzo said:
My kids are a bit too old to worry about this any more, but if they had done this 10 years ago, I still would have not subscribed. We would have just watched a lot less Disney
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I can save like $15 on my TV bill by dropping the package that includes Disney. So as long as this new service is <$15 a month, it'd be worth it for me to switch.
 
spinach_chin said:
You're gonna have to do better than vague anecdotes.

https://torrentfreak.com/millennials-regularly-stream-pirated-content-survey-finds-170412/

By any definition, it is not fringe.
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Sadly that link is blocked here at work...

I can use this: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...rth-america-compared-with-3-for-apples-itunes

Now that's a year old, but Netflix consumes 37% of all internet bandwidth in North America. iTunes is another 3%, 18% for YouTube, 3% for Hulu, and random others. So just add those big guys together and you get 61%. And that's a year ago, it's likely increased.

Bittorrent is ~3%.

So total piracy (because Bittorrent includes software, porn, music, games, etc AND movies/shows) is 20 times less popular...so basically "fringe"
 
Bandalo said:
So total piracy (because Bittorrent includes software, porn, music, games, etc AND movies/shows) is 20 times less popular...so basically "fringe"
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If it's such a small fringe, why do the media companies spend so much time & money trying to shut it down?

Within a year I expect Disney to blame their poor subscription levels on the massive amount of piracy taking place.
 
nutzo said:
If it's such a small fringe, why do the media companies spend so much time & money trying to shut it down?

Within a year I expect Disney to blame their poor subscription levels on the massive amount of piracy taking place.
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Because they don't like losing ANY money, no matter how small.

Within a year, I expect Disney's service to be through the roof, and damn near every household with kids in the US will have a subscription. Disney isn't stupid, they've been in the entertainment game longer than we've been alive. They made enough to buy Star Wars and Marvel. They're gonna make bank with this service, regardless of how many people are sneaking torrents of "Mickey Mouse Clubhouse"
 
Stuff like this is what causes piracy, just saying.
 
Warner Bros did this at the beginning did it hurt Netflix yes , but it hurt the consumer more. As for Warner bros there was other ways to watch there content as there will be with Disney. Company's promote piracy out of they're greed to make every cent hungry cent , losing at the end cause they didn't under the bigger picture.
 
Naieve said:
http://ew.com/tv/2017/09/07/game-of-thrones-season-7-piracy/

A billion times.....

Seems pretty mainstream to me.
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I posted this previously:
I can use this: http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...rth-america-compared-with-3-for-apples-itunes

Now that's a year old, but Netflix consumes 37% of all internet bandwidth in North America. iTunes is another 3%, 18% for YouTube, 3% for Hulu, and random others. So just add those big guys together and you get 61%. And that's a year ago, it's likely increased.

Bittorrent is ~3%.

So total piracy (because Bittorrent includes software, porn, music, games, etc AND movies/shows) is 20 times less popular...so basically "fringe"
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Whatever. My whole family shares multiple subscriptions.

I pay for prime
My parents pay for Netflix
My brother has a cable sub we all use to warch CNN and various other things.
My other brother has CraveTV (Canadian streaming service)

I've got one more brother who is just freeloading at this point. Time to start using him for something.
 
By the time this service launches we'll have an entirely new generation of kids....sick to fucking death of Star Wars. Well Played, Disney. Just keep making those little Mickey Mouse shorts from time to time, those get a huge thumbs-up.



 
I'm a cable-cutter, have been for over a decade. And currently I don't do any streaming - none of the big-name series like GoT suit my tastes. Instead, I buy 4K (when possible) and regular Blu-Ray discs of movies, to the tune of about $80 a month average. A hell of a lot of it is Disney/Marvell, maybe a majority, and those are the ones we re-watch a lot. The rest are Sci-Fi (The Fifth Element is awesome in 4K) - Ex Machina most recently (slow, plot was okay, didn't get invested in any of the characters though)

I used to use paid Hulu (and then they made me watch commercials -- bye!) and I've tried Netflix - bleh. Both have awful interfaces that pushed their garbage at me (has Adam Sandler EVER made a watchable movie for Netflix?) and when there was something I did want to watch, they didn't have it.

Might I try Disney streaming? Maybe. If they release all the Disney and Marvel movies I already have on non-4K media on the streaming service in 4K HDR, almost certainly. It would cost me a fortune to replace them all, and I really like them.
 
Zepher said:
Stuff like this is what causes piracy, just saying.
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No, being willing to steal things if you think you won't get caught causes piracy, and lots of other crimes.

I don't care what excuses pirates use. Piracy isn't people stealing food because they're starving.
Piracy is entitled-feeling asshats stealing just because they can, just like the people who smash-and-grab luxury goods during riots.
 
why diddnt Dis. just outright buy Netflix ? its not like they dont have the cash.
 
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