PCGH - RX 480 fails at 1400MHz

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razor1 said:
The reference boards for the rx480 what I'm expecting from them, is that they are the best perf/watt cards you will get compared to the AIB overclocked ones. I think AMD took the best range for frequency, voltage, heat production, and used that for their reference board, and are letting the AIB's bin them as they wish.
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and it gives them large quantities to push out too. AIBs can stack up on binned chips and do as the please. Win win, more profit for them.
 
Damn I am itching to build a computer right now. I look at my cart every day. Phantek Enthoo mini itx case and 500gb evo missing from the card. Then wait on a video card for a month. My newegg card is empty waiting for 0% interest for a year.


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NKD said:
Damn I am itching to build a computer right now. I look at my cart every day. Phantek Enthoo mini itx case and 500gb evo missing from the card. Then wait on a video card for a month.
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Why not just order that stuff now and have it built, so when the GPU you want is available you can just drop it in? Just run off integrated video while you wait! :)
 
jolli said:
Why not just order that stuff now and have it built, so when the GPU you want is available you can just drop it in? Just run off integrated video while you wait! :)
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You know its funny. Me and my girlfriend went to LA to see her sister and we all went out with one of her friends. She said this to them that I will spend all kinds of money to make her happy but I wont spend money on myself. She is fuckin so right now. I am such a loser!!!!
 
jolli said:
Why not just order that stuff now and have it built, so when the GPU you want is available you can just drop it in? Just run off integrated video while you wait! :)
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yep that's what I do, I buy components as they come on sale or discount and piece meal everything!
 
NKD said:
You know its funny. Me and my girlfriend went to LA to see her sister and we all went out with one of her friends. She said this to them that I will spend all kinds of money to make her happy but I wont spend money on myself. She is fuckin so right now. I am such a loser!!!!
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That's not being a man lol, should be the other way around hehe. Come on Dirty Rotten Scoundrels!

 
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That's not being a man lol, should be the other way around hehe. Come on Dirty Rotten Scoundrels!

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LOVE it! I am like one of those guys. My woman is worth it though now if I told her honey I need a computer she will ask me do you need it? I will be like YEEaaaaaaSS! She be like oh then do it, but I was going to buy you something she be like oh its okay you bought me plenty.
 
TBH I expect 1400 MAX on a reference board. So this is what at least I expected.

What I want to see is what AIB partners can do. Also that Devil card....Lookin forward to see that.....Curious if they would release a dual RX 480 devil card.....LOVE To see that beast.
 
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yep that's what I do, I buy components as they come on sale or discount and piece meal everything!
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usually do the same too. But that i7 is the cheapest I have seen it though. You think 240mm is required for the water cooler or I should save the 20-25 dollars there.

never mind just checked. its only like a 15 dollar difference.
 
NKD said:
Damn I am itching to build a computer right now. I look at my cart every day. Phantek Enthoo mini itx case and 500gb evo missing from the card. Then wait on a video card for a month. My newegg card is empty waiting for 0% interest for a year.


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Do not waste your money on the 6700k, although it is a good cpu. If you need the extra threads for non gaming stuff, buy a 5820k. If not, go with a 6600k if you are going to overclock or a 6500 non K if not. What do you have now?
 
ManofGod said:
Do not waste your money on the 6700k, although it is a good cpu. If you need the extra threads for non gaming stuff, buy a 5820k. If not, go with a 6600k if you are going to overclock or a 6500 non K if not. What do you have now?
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Been reading up on it, but everyone seems to saying that 6700k HT is helpful in dx12 games, or l don't know how future proof it is. I can spend more but if I wont see a difference in everyday task I don't wanna waste my money.
 
from what I understand DX12 will take advantage of more threads. But curiously [H] did a review about it and showed more threads = less performance?

So for right now...Who the fuck knows. I'll stick with my 12 threads for now.
 
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I'm just curious how many guys in here have Nvidia cards and are telling AMD owners what their cards are
 
ManofGod said:
Do not waste your money on the 6700k, although it is a good cpu. If you need the extra threads for non gaming stuff, buy a 5820k. If not, go with a 6600k if you are going to overclock or a 6500 non K if not. What do you have now?
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Got a brix pro mini pc with i5 4570r. Can't stick a graphics card in it though lol. Been dong everythign else just fine.
 
Sheppard said:
What graphics card does everyone in here have?
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I have a pair of Sapphire 290s clocked @1.1Ghz (X-fire 1080P, used for console ports on my tv), 1.2Ghz (X-fire at 1440P) or at 1.275Ghz when I am running a single card (for games with poor X-fire scaling)..I run my cards with 50% power limiter and 100mV of Vcore..

Single card maxed out 24/7 running Ethereum (crypto mining) runs @ 53C core and my system draw is 378W..My CPU has all power options disabled so it stays @ 5Ghz 24/7 while drawing 114W, so that means my GPU is only drawing 264W while running the single most intense application possible..The heaviest gaming load is about 35W less..

I can't wait to grab a pair of 480s, as they will offer the same (before OC) compute performance while drawing half the power..That will enable me to double my profit for the same energy use which is :greedy::greedy::greedy::greedy::greedy:...

As far as OC'ing reference cards, I have had beyond excellent "luck" clocking all of my last 3 AMD cards to the highest levels I have seen beyond exotic cooling clocks...

My MSI 6970 Lighting PE (I know this wasn't a reference model but I included it to show what that generation's flagship could do) did 1.2Ghz..

My MSI 7950 which used the 7970 PCB did 1.325Ghz on the core. This card was a Golden sample, it had ASIC score ~93% IIRC and I am certain would have broken world records had I been inclined to put it under LN2..I really regret not doing so, but I sold it ~3 weeks after the launch of the 290/X for nearly $300 thanks to LiteCoin miners..


As I mentioned above both my 290s will do 1.275Ghz all day long..Either I am beyond lucky, or I know something about OC'ing ;););)...
 
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Sheppard said:
I'm just curious how many guys in here have Nvidia cards and are telling AMD owners what their cards are
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I know I have a 980 Ti and would love to switch back to the red team. However, since I have not gamed all that much on my computer anymore and the 980 Ti is not worth squat anymore, I will just stick with what I have. (I am planning on doing that until a $300 video card can do 4k at 60fps maxed or near maxed.
 
I'm just gonna chime in and say that the last rumor i had heard with some possibility of being real was that there was going to be a special 480 edition to come later with a second power connector, this would be able to overclock better and would be the 300$ card that hasn't been shown as of yet when they mentioned the 100-300$ range on the reveal.

Still, i expect the "vanilla" 480 to trade blows with the 970 and the 390, let's see this coming 29th.
 
Revdarian said:
I'm just gonna chime in and say that the last rumor i had heard with some possibility of being real was that there was going to be a special 480 edition to come later with a second power connector, this would be able to overclock better and would be the 300$ card that hasn't been shown as of yet when they mentioned the 100-300$ range on the reveal.

Still, i expect the "vanilla" 480 to trade blows with the 970 and the 390, let's see this coming 29th.
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It's possible only the ref boards will exist as the "RX 480" and custom models will be marketed as either higher binned / premium products with proper OC support and a new name.
 
TaintedSquirrel said:
It's possible only the ref boards will exist as the "RX 480" and custom models will be marketed as either higher binned / premium products with proper OC support and a new name.
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It would be interesting if AMD decided to offer an "RX485", (which makes more sense to me then something like "RX480 Super Fast OMG Amaze Balls Edition"..They could easily bump the price up from the $199~229 the RX480 is supposed to arrive at to something like $249 to $299 for the "halo" AIB cards (Toxic, Lighting etc)..
 
For the umpteenth time it's not a bad card. It's great for the money.

What is up for debate is how bad and screwed the pooch on the design target.

Given the number of transistors amd should be blowing it out of the park and they aren't.

Look it's quite simple so I'll break it down for you knuckleheads

1. Take the 1080 gigaflops and divide it by clock speed. Now take the number of transistors and divide it by the last number. This is the number of transistors per normalized gflop

2 now repeat for the 480. ... transistor count per gflop is higher.

So what prey tell is amd wasting all those extra transistors on? FP32? Asynchronous support? HDR? Extra wide shallow pipe for ide instruction loading?

Is it possible and built the James bond of video cards but packed it with so much stuff that isn't mainstream yet that they had to put it on a Mack truck?
 
FP32 is on both cards so that's not it. Aysnc is a nonissue both cards can do it now maybe AMD has more flexibility with programability for the ACE's so that might eat up some transistors but not to the degree we are talking about. Its prurely clock freqeuency where nV upped there by designing for higher clocks, AMD didn't at least not more than whet the node gave them.


Oh wait you are normalizing by the frequency lol, ok so that ain't it either lol.
 
razor1 said:
FP32 is on both cards so that's not it. Aysnc is a nonissue both cards can do it now maybe AMD has more flexibility with programability for the ACE's so that might eat up some transistors but not to the degree we are talking about. Its prurely clock freqeuency where nV upped there by designing for higher clocks, AMD didn't at least not more than whet the node gave them.


Oh wait you are normalizing by the frequency lol, ok so that ain't it either lol.
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I'll have to go back and check but I think the normalized fp32 is supposed to Sig higher on 480.

And nvidia has improved their async to better divide resources. But from what I'm hearing is once normalized it's not up to near the snuff of amds cards.

These statements are based on previous designs and currently released info. Some are speculative.
 
Revdarian said:
I'm just gonna chime in and say that the last rumor I had heard with some possibility of being real was that there was going to be a special 480 edition to come later with a second power connector, this would be able to overclock better and would be the 300$ card that hasn't been shown as of yet when they mentioned the 100-300$ range on the reveal.

Still, I expect the "vanilla" 480 to trade blows with the 970 and the 390, let's see this coming 29th.
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I may be mistaken but wouldn't that price point be better served for a 490 or something of that ilk?
 
I guess it must be the foundry, then. Or maybe AMD's fixed-function units use up more transistors than Nvidia's? AFAIK Nvidia only has a block for NVENC, while AMD has hardware decoding + TrueAudio?
 
DigitalGriffin said:
I'll have to go back and check but I think the normalized fp32 is supposed to Sig higher on 480.

And nvidia has improved their async to better divide resources. But from what I'm hearing is once normalized it's not up to near the snuff of amds cards.

These statements are based on previous designs and currently released info. Some are speculative.
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Once we get the synthetic tests from something like B3D suite we can easily see things.
 
trandoanhung1991 said:
I guess it must be the foundry, then. Or maybe AMD's fixed-function units use up more transistors than Nvidia's? AFAIK Nvidia only has a block for NVENC, while AMD has hardware decoding + TrueAudio?
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Its possible, but to the degree that Griffin figured out, with normalization, its quite a bit.
 
Brackle said:
TBH I expect 1400 MAX on a reference board. So this is what at least I expected.

What I want to see is what AIB partners can do. Also that Devil card....Lookin forward to see that.....Curious if they would release a dual RX 480 devil card.....LOVE To see that beast.
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Two small chips on the same PCB? That kind of nonsense died with the ASUS MARS GTX 760.

AIB's ain't saving this card. They will slap a cooler on it, make you believe whatever about OC potential, and they're in the money.
You'll wish in the end you waited for Vega. These sound like chips left behind in the top drawer from the last head engineer at AMD.
 


BF4 rx480 gameplay,

the youtuber says its around a gtx 980.

85C though.
 
NKD said:
So at 1350 its a 6% oveclock at 1380 its a 9% overclock. but 14% average increase in performance.. does GCN normally act that way?
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No there must be some kind of margin of error, error, pun intended lol.
 
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WorldExclusive said:
Two small chips on the same PCB? That kind of nonsense died with the ASUS MARS GTX 760.

AIB's ain't saving this card. They will slap a cooler on it, make you believe whatever about OC potential, and they're in the money.
You'll wish in the end you waited for Vega. These sound like chips left behind in the top drawer from the last head engineer at AMD.
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Save what? Man you sure can do great rants against AMD.

So you are a known AMD hater why post in an AMD forum?
 
razor1 said:
No there must be some kind of margin of error, error, pun intended lol.
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Idk I have heard quiet a few people in the past say that GCN usually get more performance per clock when overclocked vs nvidia cards.
 
Brackle said:
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Save what? Man you sure can do great rants against AMD.

So you are a known AMD hater why post in an AMD forum?
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Because there aren't any rules against it.

So long as I stay on topic and don't call people names, we can can have a discussion.
 
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