Windows 8 Users Must Upgrade To Windows 10 Now

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Having a Mac user explain why Windows 8.1 users must upgrade to Windows 10 now is like having me tell Mac users to do...well...anything. Any of you guys BootCamp users running Windows 8.1? What's your take on the upgrade to Windows 10?

Windows 8 and 8.1 don't bring anything to the table that Windows 10 doesn't. They're much-maligned systems, fraught with controversy. They need hacks and add-ons to be able to use comfortably. Plus, given both my experience recently and Adrian's discussion of older environments, Windows 10 seems to outperform Windows 8 and 8.1 installations hands down.
 
If I could do it over again I would have never upgraded from 8.1 to 10. I have not had any major issues but I have had some issues with SLI and The Division that I never encountered on Windows 8.1
 
We used BootCamp on a few older Mac Pro's we have - it was a smooth process once Apple released the updated BootCamp drivers. Our IT department made us upgrade - prior to that, I believe we have Windows 8 (not sure why we didn't have 8.1, could be IT didn't have an image for it.)
Windows 10 also worked well on the Macbook Pro's. We occasionally use Visual Studio on them.
 
I'm, personally, liking Windows 10 a lot more than 8.1. I had Windows media shares that never worked right in 8.1, even after tons of fiddling, and still had to use Plex. With 10, the media shares work beautifully.
 
I never had any issues with Windows 8...and especially 8.1. In some ways I still prefer it to Windows 10 because the metro apps weren't mixed in with the desktop ones.
I upgraded to 10 just because I'm a sucker for something new, but I don't think it does much of anything better than 8.1 did.
 
Wow this was a click-bate article! I linked it to a friend before reading it... now I regret that. It had literally no reason to advocate for upgrading to Windows 10 other than the guy said he got it to work on his Mac Mini... Kudos... so what? Windows 10 will also run on a Ras Pi... that doesnt mean we should all upgrade!
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If you are still on Windows 8 you should upgrade to something. For 8.1 to 10 honestly besides the new desktop there isn't much that is different, and you can force the 8.1 Start Screen to come back if you were one of the two people that liked it, but 10 is the one they are adding stuff to like the Linux Bash shell, so that is why I upgraded. I like getting the latest stuff, and for now it is free.
 
I've been using Windows 10 now for 2 weeks on my new Surface Pro 4 and I absolutely hate it...
 
Wow, that article is light on content.

I have two Macbooks on my desk. One is running 8.1, one is running 10. My workflow is virtually identical between them. If you have 8.1 and don't want to fuck with it, don't. If you want to play with 10, do. Fuck, if you're running 7, keep it up if that's what you want.

It's just an operating system. As long as it does what I need it to, and I have ways to force it to not do what I don't, who gives a shit?
 
Zion Halcyon said:
Rofl.

Can I just say I am amused at how people before Windows 10 were non-stop bitching about windows 8 and 8.1? And now after, its suddenly "Oh, 8 is quite lovely!'


Some people's children....
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it's because MS unleashed a whole new level of smelly dog shit that makes what came before pale in comparison....the grass is always greener, right?

personally, i hate everything after Win7. i've done upgrades on my machines already, just to go ahead & take advantage of the free upgrade, in case one day Win10 stops suckling donkey balls, but i made sure to grab an Acronis image of my existing Win7 installs before doing so, so that i could go right back to where i was before upgrading.

at this point, unless something major with Win10 changes, i think it's about time to have a Win7/Win10 dual boot setup on my gaming rig (so i can take advantage of DX12 if/when it ever gets implemented in games i care about), then run linux full time on everything else; i'm tired of MS pushing this tablet-centric, ugly, privacy-intrusive bullshit down our throats.

Win10 to me is almost as close to a Mac as you can get, without actually being a Mac....forced updates, a whole new level of privacy intrusion, and just plain asshole-fucking-ugly to look at. if i wanted a Mac, i'd have bought a fucking Mac.
 
xXaNaXx said:
it's because MS unleashed a whole new level of smelly dog shit that makes what came before pale in comparison....the grass is always greener, right?

personally, i hate everything after Win7. i've done upgrades on my machines already, just to go ahead & take advantage of the free upgrade, in case one day Win10 stops suckling donkey balls, but i made sure to grab an Acronis image of my existing Win7 installs before doing so, so that i could go right back to where i was before upgrading.

at this point, unless something major with Win10 changes, i think it's about time to have a Win7/Win10 dual boot setup on my gaming rig (so i can take advantage of DX12 if/when it ever gets implemented in games i care about), then run linux full time on everything else; i'm tired of MS pushing this tablet-centric, ugly, privacy-intrusive bullshit down our throats.

Win10 to me is almost as close to a Mac as you can get, without actually being a Mac....forced updates, a whole new level of privacy intrusion, and just plain asshole-fucking-ugly to look at. if i wanted a Mac, i'd have bought a fucking Mac.
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*yawn*

Same old shit.

I think the 7 bias is the issue. MS could create an OS that could cure cancer, and people would bitch because it isn't 7.
 
Yeah, there needs to stop being a bias against a perfectly functional OS that could accommodate everyone and instead we all should go with whatever Microsoft wants!

Windows 10 vs. Windows 8.1 vs. Windows 7 Performance

All those that say "It is snappier! It boots faster!" and the like are just spewing bullcrap. DX12 would matter if Vulkan doesn't take off, but other than that, there is nothing really needed on Windows 10 for the standard desktop user, nor the power user.
 
Windows 10 killed my battery life. My Surface will stay Win 8.1 until it dies because of that.
 
Revdarian said:
Yeah, there needs to stop being a bias against a perfectly functional OS that could accommodate everyone and instead we all should go with whatever Microsoft wants!

Windows 10 vs. Windows 8.1 vs. Windows 7 Performance

All those that say "It is snappier! It boots faster!" and the like are just spewing bullcrap. DX12 would matter if Vulkan doesn't take off, but other than that, there is nothing really needed on Windows 10 for the standard desktop user, nor the power user.
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Bingo. The "I lyke 10 cuz boots fastur" gimmick falls apart as soon as you disable fast boot (resume from kernel hibernation) and compare 10 and 7 apples to apples. Without resume from kernel hibernation, Windows 10 actually boots slower than 7.

But the bigger issue is the the 10 shills and closet MSFT shareholders screaming "you just hate change" because they have no better argument, no compelling must-have feature in 10 to make a better argument with. Because there aren't any. DX12? Gamers that blind-upgraded on the promise of DX12 are going to be waiting years before developers are actually building DX12-only games.
 
Decibel said:
I have two Macbooks on my desk. One is running 8.1, one is running 10. My workflow is virtually identical between them. If you have 8.1 and don't want to fuck with it, don't. If you want to play with 10, do. Fuck, if you're running 7, keep it up if that's what you want. It's just an operating system. As long as it does what I need it to, and I have ways to force it to not do what I don't, who gives a shit?
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Very well said ;)
 
rezerekted said:
Why do you care?
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I have several Surface devices and am simply curious. There are those that say that Windows 8.1 is a better tablet OS, there are things about it that I do like in that regard over 10. But I think 10 overall is a better OS for a 2 in 1 device, with a better balance between tablet and desktop. I think the tablet side is perfectly useable, it's not really that different from Android or iOS.
 
DPI said:
Bingo. The "I lyke 10 cuz boots fastur" gimmick falls apart as soon as you disable fast boot (resume from kernel hibernation) and compare 10 and 7 apples to apples. Without resume from kernel hibernation, Windows 10 actually boots slower than 7.

But the bigger issue is the the 10 shills and closet MSFT shareholders screaming "you just hate change" because they have no better argument, no compelling must-have feature in 10 to make a better argument with. Because there aren't any. DX12? Gamers that blind-upgraded on the promise of DX12 are going to be waiting years before developers are actually building DX12-only games.
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Yes, and Intel's Graphics cards hold up the second you remove the drivers from amd's and NVidia's graphics cards. /facepalm


I thought the point of being on the bleeding edge of technology was to use it, not turn it off so we can "compare apples to apples".

Shit, what's next, demanding cards be pulled by horses?
 
heatlesssun said:
I have several Surface devices and am simply curious. There are those that say that Windows 8.1 is a better tablet OS, there are things about it that I do like in that regard over 10. But I think 10 overall is a better OS for a 2 in 1 device, with a better balance between tablet and desktop. I think the tablet side is perfectly useable, it's not really that different from Android or iOS.
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Also have 10 on a tablet and my main PC. Have had ZERO issues. As someone who troubleshoots other people's PC problems for a living - corporate level, not geek squad stuff - a lot of this "Windows 10 did mean things to my PC!" sounds a lot like my end users who don't actually know what the hell each thing does and just blames whatever is convenient instead of what is logical or what in the end is the result of human error and the settings they have set up.

And given that this site is a technology enthusiast site, that prospect leaves me a tad shocked and disappointed.
 
Zion Halcyon said:
Frankly, for most people, all the hand-wringing and bitching about upgrading to 10 is just banal stupidity and faulty principles.

10 is fine. Its actually quite nice.
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Are we not allowed to not like it simply because we dont like how it looks?
 
heatlesssun said:
So what are some of the top reasons for your dislike?
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That I haven't gotten around to customizing it, yet :p

By default it pushes the app store too fucking hard, but I'll take care of that soon enough. Microsoft can keep its apps to itself. Other than that, feels almost exactly like 8.1, except with 8.1 I didn't have to do a whole lot to be happy with it (similar to previous versions of Windows).
 
Zion Halcyon said:
*yawn*

Same old shit.

I think the 7 bias is the issue. MS could create an OS that could cure cancer, and people would bitch because it isn't 7.
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Thats because 7 just works with no added BS.Sorry I dont want a store intergrated into my OS. Someone posted a picture on reddit of the windows 10 calculator app asking to rate the app in the store. WTF is that shit, its a fucking calculator.
 
nvgrim said:
Thats because 7 just works with no added BS.Sorry I dont want a store intergrated into my OS. Someone posted a picture on reddit of the windows 10 calculator app asking to rate the app in the store. WTF is that shit, its a fucking calculator.
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Welcome to the new unified mobile world. You going to yell "get off my lawn" next?
 
SilverSliver said:
I'm, personally, liking Windows 10 a lot more than 8.1. I had Windows media shares that never worked right in 8.1, even after tons of fiddling, and still had to use Plex. With 10, the media shares work beautifully.
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Just wait in tell you start having Activation Hell
See my post here on matter even if this just Windows Insider Perview it just to show you can't even put any trush in to MS
 
I can actually see why someone would want to stick with Windows 8.1. If you really liked the Start screen and using Metro apps, Windows 10 is kind of a step backwards because Microsoft had to appease all those Start Menu lovers out there...

Me, I never cared one way or the other because I've been running programs via the search bar or Run command for ages. I find Windows 10 more familiar, but I also find myself using Metro apps less often because the new interface doesn't put them front and center. They're all just kind of jumbled in an alphabetical list, which means the interface now pushes me towards using the applications I'm used to running or the ones I habitually use most often. On Windows 8, I had them all categorized under little group labels like I used to do in Program Manager.

I liked Windows 8 partly because it was a challenge to learn and adapt to a new Interface. Windows 10 really doesn't have that going for it.
 
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i upgraded my 5 year old laptop from win 7 to 10, and it seemed to run worse.

my new laptop came with win10, and it feels more sluggish than win7
 
Steve said:
Very well said ;)
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I actually agree wholeheartedly. Just the nonstop bitching about an OS people have already decided they aren't going to upgrade to wears thin, as well as some of the whining over reasons that end up being false (or in the cases of many of the horror stories - user error).
 
It really is wearing seriously thin.

I'm disappointed in the way MS has over-integrated privacy eliminating features. I get it and I even know why it has to be like this for them to compete against what the average user EXPECTS to happen magically compared to Android and iOS.

What I would like to see however on MS desktops is a system that works the other way around. Have a super-privacy-oriented control panel. Not something half baked but a master page that all software both built into the OS and otherwise have to register entries on when anything privacy related is set. Make the defaults be OFF for absolutely everything. Let the user turn the switches on for every last individual thing. That's how desktop privacy should work. The program can reference you to the control panel page, but it can't do it for you. Just like the way the new "default apps" page works. I freaking LOVE the way that works. It's sensible. Let's do the same thing for all privacy features on every program on the machine.
 
Armenius said:
That I haven't gotten around to customizing it, yet :p

By default it pushes the app store too fucking hard, but I'll take care of that soon enough. Microsoft can keep its apps to itself. Other than that, feels almost exactly like 8.1, except with 8.1 I didn't have to do a whole lot to be happy with it (similar to previous versions of Windows).
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While I can get some of the angst for the Windows Store, on a tablet or 2 in 1, I'd say it's essential unless one wants to use nothing but desktop apps of which 99.9% were never designed to be used with touch. While there aren't enough, there are a decent amount of good tablet apps out there, many of which can be useful on the desktop.
 
Advil said:
Have a super-privacy-oriented control panel. Not something half baked but a master page that all software both built into the OS and otherwise have to register entries on when anything privacy related is set.
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This would be practically impossible for Win32 apps without adding restrictions like Windows Store apps that so many complain about because of the restrictions.
 
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