Windows 10 64-Bit Dethrones Windows 7 64-bit On Steam

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Windows 7, however, is still the dominant OS of choice when you include 32-bit users.

Windows 10 64-bit has finally overtaken Windows 7 64-bit as the most popular operating system for Steam users. While many people would assume that the majority of PC gamers would have immediately switched over to Windows 10 on account of its free upgrade path and general lack of downsides, the Steam community has been fighting it for a long time. Many Steam users felt that they couldn’t trust Microsoft anymore after their rejection of Windows 8, and so they backed into Windows 7 with an “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it attitude.”
 
No surprise there since it was already headed that way. Oh, and in before the Steam does not matter but Steam matters crowd. ;)
 
It's less "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude and more a "I don't want the damn OS auto-updating and potentially break something." I still think it's crazy manually approving updates isn't an option.
 
Well, phones have been doing it more or less, so why not OSes.
 
tetris42 said:
It's less "if it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude and more a "I don't want the damn OS auto-updating and potentially break something." I still think it's crazy manually approving updates isn't an option.
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Which has nothing to do with the original topic but then again, I am sure you already know that. :rolleyes: Clearly, Windows 10 works great as a gaming OS among other things. I know I have not had issues beyond some securom games no longer working.
 
I think the good news is that less than 4% of 10 users run the 32% version of windows. Maybe they can drop that version in 10 years.
 
I wonder why so many Steam users have Windows 7 32-bit. For Windows 7 users, it's about a 6:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit. For 8.1, it's about a 40:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit versions.

But I think this also highlights why Steam OS usage isn't representative of Windows users as a whole, despite the one member here who uses that data inappropriately.
 
ManofGod said:
Which has nothing to do with the original topic but then again, I am sure you already know that. :rolleyes: Clearly, Windows 10 works great as a gaming OS among other things. I know I have not had issues beyond some securom games no longer working.
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Well for me it's at the heart of why I'm not on Windows 10, that and older game compatibility. I'm sure Win 10 supports many titles, but finding out I can't run previous ones is always a slap in the face for an OS upgrade.
 
nilepez said:
I think the good news is that less than 4% of 10 users run the 32% version of windows. Maybe they can drop that version in 10 years.
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I didn't even realize Win10 had a 32-bit version...don't see any real reason for one to exist at this point.
 
pxc said:
I wonder why so many Steam users have Windows 7 32-bit. For Windows 7 users, it's about a 6:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit. For 8.1, it's about a 40:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit versions.

But I think this also highlights why Steam OS usage isn't representative of Windows users as a whole, despite the one member here who uses that data inappropriately.
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I think these surveys give a pretty good idea of general market trends when looked at over time. Historically, the adoption rate of new versions of Windows have always been higher in this particular survey then the general market surveys which makes a lot of sense, gamers tend to adopt new technology faster than the general population.

Is Windows 10 x64 the most widely PC operating system for gaming at this very moment? Perhaps not, but the trend in this survey and the general market surveys point to that being the case, if not now, sooner rather than later. These surveys historically have tended to make sense when it comes to market share, not many debated them when Windows 7 was on the rise.
 
pothb said:
Well, phones have been doing it more or less, so why not OSes.
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PCs are not phones. Microsoft has released updates that have broken things in the past, as have some anti-virus companies. If my phone takes a dive on me because of an update, i can walk in and get a new working phone at no charge. If my computer takes a dive because of a patch update, I'm boned until i figure out what's wrong. At my work? I may as well go home for the day if my computer isn't working, because our IT guy is only there once a week (contractor) and only comes in otherwise for emergencies. Even then it's a 2 hour wait because he is on site somewhere else.
 
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SamuraiInBlack said:
PCs are not phones. Microsoft has released updates that have broken things in the past, as have some anti-virus companies. If my phone takes a dive on me because of an update, i can walk in and get a new working phone at no charge. If my computer takes a dive because of a patch update, I'm boned until i figure out what's wrong. At my work? I may as well go home for the day if my computer isn't working, because our IT guy is only there once a week (contractor) and only comes in otherwise for emergencies. Even then it's a 2 hour wait because he is on site somewhere else.
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DPI said:
Because my PC is not a fucking phone.
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With windows 8/10, isn't already half way there?
 
pxc said:
I wonder why so many Steam users have Windows 7 32-bit. For Windows 7 users, it's about a 6:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit. For 8.1, it's about a 40:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit versions.

But I think this also highlights why Steam OS usage isn't representative of Windows users as a whole, despite the one member here who uses that data inappropriately.
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Yep, glad I got it before the inevitable post such as this one made it here. I was not disappointed either. :eek::rolleyes::barefoot::spitoutdummy: I am sure if Windows 7 64 Bit was owning it, you would say otherwise. Oh well, to be expected as usual.
 
ManofGod said:
I am sure if Windows 7 64 Bit was owning it, you would say otherwise. Oh well, to be expected as usual.
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But that's just it, Windows 7 WAS owning for many years in this survey and few questioned it. Of course the situation is much different with 10 with the free nagware upgrade and that's a legitimate point. But if Windows 10 were problematic for most gamers, I'd think there'd be a huge outcry about it. Of all the complaints over 10, I'm not seeing too many complaints about gaming, not much beyond older games at any rate.

Bottom line, Windows 10 is a very good OS overall for the average PC user. Not perfect and I get the complaints over the nagware upgrade from older versions, the forced updates and "spyware". I don't see how Windows 10 would have gotten this far however if these things really were as problematic as some make them out to be.
 
heatlesssun said:
But that's just it, Windows 7 WAS owning for many years in this survey and few questioned it. Of course the situation is much different with 10 with the free nagware upgrade and that's a legitimate point. But if Windows 10 were problematic for most gamers, I'd think there'd be a huge outcry about it. Of all the complaints over 10, I'm not seeing too many complaints about gaming, not much beyond older games at any rate.

Bottom line, Windows 10 is a very good OS overall for the average PC user. Not perfect and I get the complaints over the nagware upgrade from older versions, the forced updates and "spyware". I don't see how Windows 10 would have gotten this far however if these things really were as problematic as some make them out to be.
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I'd have to agree. Compare it to what happened when Vista came out. People not only refused to upgrade but they were so forceful about not wanting Vista that it forced the pre-builders to keep shipping computers with Windows XP. Win10 has it's issues but it's getting nowhere near the media and techie outrage and damnation that Vista had. The extreme vitriol simply isn't there. Windows ME and XP pre-SP1 got a lot more hate even.
 
tetris42 said:
... that and older game compatibility. I'm sure Win 10 supports many titles, but finding out I can't run previous ones is always a slap in the face for an OS upgrade.
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I find that I am having an easier time playing older games (even certain DOS ones) than I was with Win 7 (Which was terrible) and Windows 8.
 
It's funny that MS has made some people so wary of their products and intent that they won't even take a free OS upgrade at this point. I personally have no complaints about win10, other than a few games not working (looking at you Metro 2033/Last Light redux), but after win8, vista, and win10 spyware, I can't really blame them.
 
Just built a new gaming rig; 6700k, z170 SLI MoBo, DDR4 3200, etc. Still put Win7 64bit Ult on it. Will stay on it till dx12 is a thing. If it ain't broke....
 
MisprintedLies said:
Are you a market researcher? An Economist? A Business Analyst? That's a lot of professing about the markets for someone who doesn't sound like they have expertise is such topics and is just wildly speculating and making sparsely informed assumptions.
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rezerekted said:
I see the usual shills have shown up to make multiple posts. :eek:
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All I am saying is that when these surveys showed good growth for Windows 7 and lack of growth for Windows 8.x many that are arguing against them now weren't then. I've noted also that the free nagware upgrade aspect to Windows 10 is different from prior versions which is certainly helping boost the numbers. But it would appear that Windows 10 also isn't the disaster that many make it out to be. It's hard to see how 10, even with the nagware upgrade could have this much market share in the Steam survey and be problematic for gaming.
 
heatlesssun said:
All I am saying is that when these surveys showed good growth for Windows 7 and lack of growth for Windows 8.x many that are arguing against them now weren't then. I've noted also that the free nagware upgrade aspect to Windows 10 is different from prior versions which is certainly helping boost the numbers. But it would appear that Windows 10 also isn't the disaster that many make it out to be. It's hard to see how 10, even with the nagware upgrade could have this much market share in the Steam survey and be problematic for gaming.
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LOL, nagware.
 
scharfshutze009 said:
LOL, nagware.
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It is what it is. I get called a shill a lot around here and I've personally not dealt with this issue because I like Windows 10 and it works well for me and others that I deal with personally. But I can certainly understand that if one is in a situation where being nagged to upgrade to 10 is causing problems that shouldn't be happening. It's clearly an issue that Microsoft hasn't dealt with well for those that are being affected by it.
 
heatlesssun said:
It is what it is. I get called a shill a lot around here and I've personally not dealt with this issue because I like Windows 10 and it works well for me and others that I deal with personally. But I can certainly understand that if one is in a situation where being nagged to upgrade to 10 is causing problems that shouldn't be happening. It's clearly an issue that Microsoft hasn't dealt with well for those that are being affected by it.
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I'm not trying to call you on anything. I just think your response is funny.
 
MavericK said:
I didn't even realize Win10 had a 32-bit version...don't see any real reason for one to exist at this point.
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I'm running the 32 bit version on my tablet. Didn't have a choice because Intel like to leave out the 64 bit support on it's lower prices Atom chips.
32 bit does take a little less memory, which helps with the limited resources on a tablet.
 
I wonder how many of those running it in the last few weeks miss clicked and set the download time unwittingly lol. Had several folks at work do that to have a nice new surprise when they booted up the next day lol.
 
Megalith said:
Windows 7, however, is still the dominant OS of choice when you include 32-bit users.
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Nie mój cyrk, nie moje małpy. Also, July 29th is a little over three months away.

This information is more important to the developers than it is to me.
 
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pxc said:
I wonder why so many Steam users have Windows 7 32-bit. For Windows 7 users, it's about a 6:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit. For 8.1, it's about a 40:1 ratio for 64-bit vs 32-bit versions.
But I think this also highlights why Steam OS usage isn't representative of Windows users as a whole, despite the one member here who uses that data inappropriately.
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Not necessarily. Computers that Steam looks at are mostly home users. I'd kinda expect most businesses to be on a 64 bit OS at this point. Even at my workplace most machines are 64 bit (though in 2010/2011 most 7 installs were 32bit). You simply can't look at the overall numbers, because businesses will totally skew the numbers.

SamuraiInBlack said:
PCs are not phones. Microsoft has released updates that have broken things in the past, as have some anti-virus companies. If my phone takes a dive on me because of an update, i can walk in and get a new working phone at no charge. If my computer takes a dive because of a patch update, I'm boned until i figure out what's wrong. At my work? I may as well go home for the day if my computer isn't working, because our IT guy is only there once a week (contractor) and only comes in otherwise for emergencies. Even then it's a 2 hour wait because he is on site somewhere else.
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I guess I don't see what the problem is. You can delay patches if you're using Windows 10 Pro (which is what a business PC should run). Wait a week or so and see if there are issues...hell wait longer if you need too. I can only recall one issue with an update since 10 came out and I simply did a system restore and skipped the update for a month (it was technically a new release of 10, not a security patch).

Derangel said:
I'd have to agree. Compare it to what happened when Vista came out. People not only refused to upgrade but they were so forceful about not wanting Vista that it forced the pre-builders to keep shipping computers with Windows XP. Win10 has it's issues but it's getting nowhere near the media and techie outrage and damnation that Vista had. The extreme vitriol simply isn't there. Windows ME and XP pre-SP1 got a lot more hate even.
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Vista had issues that took until the summer of 2007 to fix, but the real issue for gamers was the piss poor video drivers and Creative's total lack of post beta drivers...yeah, that's right, they had semi working beta 2 drivers and did nothing through the rest of the development cycle until sometime after the retail release.
Nevertheless, I agree, ME and XP (don't recall the SP1 reactions) were not loved upon release. Personally I had no more problems with ME than Win 98 SE, but maybe I was lucky (or unlucky with 98 ;))
 
rezerekted said:
I see the usual shills have shown up to make multiple posts. :eek:
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*Golf claps* Impressive, do you have more where that came from? :rolleyes: Would you please just switch completely to Linux already, this gets tiring.
 
I have to say, I was a bit concerned about Win 10, privacy, mandatory updates, etc. at first. 6 months or so later, I have to say I am happy with this OS.
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Windows 10 here, no issues whatsoever running all of my games and applications. Even have it on my macbook pro and it runs perfectly fine.

Not sure why there is a lot of hate for Wins 10. The thought of being "spied" on is making them unnecessarily paranoid.
 
I installed W10 enterprise ltsb. And it's still fucking terrible. It's like it's an os meant for a smartphone, made for 10 year olds, and not for professional work / enthusiasts. It looks bad, it gets on my nerves, nothing can be customized. You need to go out of your way to find functions in it. You need an array of 3rd party tools to make it borderline bearable. It's a disaster. I hate it.
 
Tac0 said:
I have to say, I was a bit concerned about Win 10, privacy, mandatory updates, etc. at first. 6 months or so later, I have to say I am happy with this OS.
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Why, how did you expect the spying would've manifest itself in this time? You don't feel any different because they collect the data, but you can be sure that they are collecting it. It's only a matter of time before they pull the trigger on full scale targeted ads everywhere on your desktop, and inside apps. They're waiting for a particular adoption rate. I just hope enterprise versions will be unaffected.
 
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