#GamerGate Forums Brought Down In DDoS Attack

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The Escapist forums were brought down in a DDoS attack yesterday. Coincidentally when we mentioned the same #GamersGate story yesterday, the traffic to that one comment thread was five times as much as we'd see on a busy weekday. Launching DDoS attacks on sites that even discuss #GamerGate is pretty damn weak.

“A DDOS attack is currently underway against @TheEscapistMag. The attackers are specifically targeting the GamerGate forum thread,” Macris tweeted this morning. After a brief interlude the attacks began again, and eventually the publication was forced to take down the forums temporarily. The attack consists of “a large number of IP addresses targeted the GamerGate thread for reload many times per second.”
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And round 3 with GamerGate. GamerGate is about as important as Paris Hilton on the news.
 
It is interesting and important that 4chan and reddit are banning users and censoring forums on this subject, considering what just happened during the celebrity nudes scandal.
 
Hah... yea. And they say it's people of 4chan vs zoe quinn, when they also get rid of threads regarding it.

And now this, bs.
 
That's crazy because I got a password reset email from them a few days ago. And of course I never requested it. I told them I was being hacked, and he told me to check my computer for malware... :rolleyes: And now this happened. Haha, assholes.
 
I bet the very same people that are exerting their power to perform this DDOS in an attempt to prevent discussion, to censor and control the information, would cry like bitches if someone else with more power tried to to do the same to them. They would be screaming about their freedom of speech or some such while attempting to do the same to others.
What is more funny is that it is all over nothing. Game journalism is dead, women that sell vagina for favors was nothing new when were still hunting with spears, publishers have been buying reviews from the start, and we really don't care about the lack of ethics in game bloggers any more because we no longer listen to what they have to say. They no longer matter.

I did occasionally listen to the reviews at TheEscapeist because they were funny, not because I cared about his opinion on the games he reviewed.
 
GORANKAR said:
I bet the very same people that are exerting their power to perform this DDOS in an attempt to prevent discussion, to censor and control the information, would cry like bitches if someone else with more power tried to to do the same to them.
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This +1
 
Steve said:
Interesting enough to get DDoS'ed over just talking about it.
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Which really lends more credibility to the argument that there is something to this. When someone talks nonsense, people don't tend to care except maybe to poke fun at it. They don't try to silence it because hey, people talk nonsense all the time, particularly on the Internet.

However when someone is speaking an uncomfortable truth, that's when people try to shut them up. We've seen it with celebrities, companies, and so on. This seems very, very similar to me. The game journalism sites and their fans really, really don't like this story and really want to shut people up who talk about it. To me, that says it isn't nothing.

I'll pull out a Game of Throne quote here "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."

Well I'll just say thanks to Kyle n' company for allowing this, and all other, discussions. I think it speaks really highly of your site.
 
GORANKAR said:
I bet the very same people that are exerting their power to perform this DDOS in an attempt to prevent discussion, to censor and control the information, would cry like bitches if someone else with more power tried to to do the same to them. They would be screaming about their freedom of speech or some such while attempting to do the same to others.
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Steve said:
This +1
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It's a classic display of "Do as I say, not as I do." Hypocrisy flying all around.
 
Sycraft said:
I'll pull out a Game of Throne quote here "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say."
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you took that one from Thunderf00t :p who was banned from twitter because of his videos about anita sarkeesian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSQbLt9DS8. none of them contained personal attacks, just critisism based on facts and barely anything about gamergate because at that time he was busy and didn't upload a lot of videos, though, he retweeted a few tweets on that topic.
 
temujin987 said:
you took that one from Thunderf00t :p who was banned from twitter because of his videos about anita sarkeesian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTSQbLt9DS8. none of them contained personal attacks, just critisism based on facts and barely anything about gamergate because at that time he was busy and didn't upload a lot of videos, though, he retweeted a few tweets on that topic.
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No I imagine we both took it from the same place. Well, to be fair I suppose he may have gotten it from the TV version I don't know if the quote is in there (haven't watched the show). But it might surprise you to learn there are some people who like Martin's writings.

It is a quote I've liked since 1999, which is when I happened to read the book, back before the books started to suck :p.

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The fact that the SJWs will decry harassment and tell everyone to be good to eachother yet turn around and engage in campaigns to get people fired, dox their personal info and engage in this sort of activity really speaks volumes about the type of people we're dealing with.

Quinn, Sarkeesian, Large Alexander, these are terrorists.
 
Grimspoon said:
Quinn, Sarkeesian, Large Alexander, these are terrorists.
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Dude, you're taking this a bit too seriously. It's just a bunch of liberal bloggers lecturing and whining, while angry teens take offense.

No one's a terrorist - it's just a culture clash. Chill.
 
crusty_juggler said:
Dude, you're taking this a bit too seriously. It's just a bunch of liberal bloggers lecturing and whining, while angry teens take offense.

No one's a terrorist - it's just a culture clash. Chill.
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These people are guilty of ruining lives. They actively try and get people fired for supporting #gamersgate. They derail devs who's work doesn't fall in line with their own ideals.

These people have influence and use it to destroy.

I'm just commenting on some forums. I'm not the one who needs to take this less seriously.
 
I have no idea wtf any of this is about. I didn't know about it until the [H] posted about it. Any one else as confused about this as I am?
 
Phoenix333 said:
I have no idea wtf any of this is about. I didn't know about it until the [H] posted about it. Any one else as confused about this as I am?
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Basically, professional victim was outted by her boyfriend as a cheat, and hypocrit. The people she cheated on him with, worked in gaming journalism, and used their articles to promote her game without telling about their relationships.

As it went on, more is found out. The "journalist" and SJW people, "victim" included, tried to not talk about it, dismiss it, then censor it, which pissed more people off, so they digged even further, which lead to more revelations such as that mailing list stuff. Now they're DDOSing one of the few sites that aren't in on the censorship.
 
crusty_juggler said:
Dude, you're taking this a bit too seriously. It's just a bunch of liberal bloggers lecturing and whining, while angry teens take offense.

No one's a terrorist - it's just a culture clash. Chill.
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Yep. Its being blown out of proportion plain and simple. Ultra Feminists want men out of the spotlight if anything or not involved at all. This isn't a change in that agenda.

The more people think its a grand conspiracy the more I just don't get the reasoning.

If people would only stop feeding them more and more nonsense this entire argument would calm down to the point that rational discussion can be attempted.

Doesn't look like that's happening. What every "victim" trope the anti-gamergate believers had in terms of them not doing such attacks has gone out the window. Now that things have grown to this level its obvious this nonsense won't be ending anytime soon.
 
pxc said:
4chan trolleth, 4chan taketh away
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It's interesting that moot got serious enough that he's made a sticky where he stated that the "no personal information / raids / calls to invasion" rule is why he's deleting threads.
 
Godmachine said:
Yep. Its being blown out of proportion plain and simple. Ultra Feminists want men out of the spotlight if anything or not involved at all. This isn't a change in that agenda.

If people would only stop feeding them more and more nonsense this entire argument would calm down to the point that rational discussion can be attempted.
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People (like myself) see them actually causing changes in the industry, Anita supposedly is an advisor on Mirror's Edge 2, this Zoe thing, Gone Home getting 10/10's across many many websites out of nowhere.

When you see BS like this starting to happen, you nip it in the bud, you don't passively watch it grow more and more. The problem in this case is that not only has it become a "SJW" thing, but what was found past the hypocrisy of these people is the core and root issue; the media and industry agenda. And I say "industry" as in the large corps that see games as a venue for profits, and nothing more. If the pinnacle of "making it" in an industry is getting to be a sellout, then you're only going to attract trash to it.

TLDR: SJW's want attention/voice, Industry/Media want money, gamers lose if we let them turn the industry into their combined vision, this can't be ignored.
 
lilbabycat said:
TLDR: SJW's want attention/voice, Industry/Media want money, gamers lose if we let them turn the industry into their combined vision, this can't be ignored.
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Some gamers will just find the game-as-a-service (money+voice) to be boring, and not play as a result. How many gamers will lose heart and not play from this? I don't know. Will this impact the bottom line of the entertainment industry? Maybe given how much entertainment budget is in gaming and not in movies...
 
Grimspoon said:
Yet he's actively calling to action that exact sort of behavior:

Moot rallying the troops
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I read this and the comments on this... the number of people calling conspiracy/character assassination left and right makes the 9/11 truthers look civilized. It is almost as if that this powderkeg of trolls, women's rights radicals, men's right radicals, industry contacts and site operators are dragged down into this mess.

This feels like the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of the video game world... sigh. I just want well-designed games that provide me with great values.
 
Reimu said:
I read this and the comments on this... the number of people calling conspiracy/character assassination left and right makes the 9/11 truthers look civilized. It is almost as if that this powderkeg of trolls, women's rights radicals, men's right radicals, industry contacts and site operators are dragged down into this mess.

This feels like the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand of the video game world... sigh. I just want well-designed games that provide me with great values.
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This thing is going to get a lot uglier, especially if TotalBiscuit get's involved like he's threatening, which honestly needs to happen.

I'm a big advocate for GG, the issue is we're all labeled as misogynists when all we really would like is transparency on the journalistic side of things. If you're donating via Patron or KickStarter you're likely to have a bias for or against what you're reviewing. Simply disclosing that would go a long way.

Websites like 4Chan / Reddit / Kotaku / GiantBomb deleting articles and comments about this thing in order to contain it is only Streisanding the heck out of this whole thing. 4Chan is especially the most notable since as much as a cesspool as that place is, it's one of the last places for Free Speech. How Fapgate survived and this didn't is bewildering on several layers.

As someone who's been into games for as long as I've been breathing, this is legitimately tearing the entire industry apart and have no idea how this thing is / can end. Be careful with what you post and what you say as DOXXing and threats are flying all over the place. Take a look at what happened to Gamasutra's traffic once they jumped on the "Gamers are Dead" bandwagon, it's insane!

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gamasutra.com
 
Plot twist: GamerGate is DoSS'ing themselves to cover things up without looking like the villian :D
 
Reimu said:
Some gamers will just find the game-as-a-service (money+voice) to be boring, and not play as a result. How many gamers will lose heart and not play from this? I don't know. Will this impact the bottom line of the entertainment industry? Maybe given how much entertainment budget is in gaming and not in movies...
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Any person that lets random noise from the Internet determine how they enjoy their hobby is likely not as invested with that hobby to begin with.

If I followed what many gaming journalists are pushing as top tier games these days I would not be a fan of gaming.

Once you let someone else start to dictate your interests you've properly driven yourself away from caring about those interests. This whole controversy is very unlikely to "shake" the industry in a directly economic way.

It won't be until the pitchforks get put away and rational thought is allowed to prevail that real subject matter can be discussed.

Totalbiscuit (regardless what you may think of thim) has been trying for weeks to get a podcast going between the gaming journos and Youtubers to talk about the subject matter as rationally as possible. But because of the recent leak possibly revealing how incestous the gaming journos have become with each other and the industry all of those lined up to participate backed out.

We are nowhere near a point were a real discussion can take place. Its probably going to be past the beginning of 2015 before this internalized conflict dies down a bit.

What I worry about is that between these conversations (or attempts at them) what will slip through the cracks and end up being something that genuinely affects gaming at a more tangible level. Its often during these kinds of internal affairs that big stories get buried.
 
Godmachine said:
We are nowhere near a point were a real discussion can take place. Its probably going to be past the beginning of 2015 before this internalized conflict dies down a bit.

What I worry about is that between these conversations (or attempts at them) what will slip through the cracks and end up being something that genuinely affects gaming at a more tangible level. Its often during these kinds of internal affairs that big stories get buried.
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I don't have a crystal ball to show me what's going to the next talking point by the gaming press, but important issues regarding cloud gaming, streaming revenue model, empty pre-release promises, crowd-funded capitals and quality of service are clearly present and they will only fester unabated.
 
Twisted Kidney said:
It's like watching a bunch of snot-nosed little brats fight in a school yard.
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Yep. I just want to roll my eyes at all of this. So stupid.

Guys who can't get laid whining about women that use what they've got.

Conflicts of interest aren't limited to one sex.
 
Gaming "journalism" is almost an oxymoron and, in my opinion, lost all credibility a long ass time ago. Now, its devolving into laughable super market tabloid-esque bullshit.
 
Reimu said:
I don't have a crystal ball to show me what's going to the next talking point by the gaming press, but important issues regarding cloud gaming, streaming revenue model, empty pre-release promises, crowd-funded capitals and quality of service are clearly present and they will only fester unabated.
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Well one story that fell through the cracks mostly unnoticed was that 40,000 EA accounts got hacked.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/EA...Hacked-Whistleblower-Steps-Forward-67256.html

I didn't even hear about this until 2 days ago. Mostly because many sites are still pushing Destiny/Gamergate coverage (minus Kotaku which is fixed on Destiny coverage and pretending that it doesn't have a dog in this fight when in fact it has a pack of them..).

That is the kind of example I'm talking about. That should have been front page news and something that was discussed extensively. Instead it got buried by a big game release and an ongoing controversy.

After the 26th of this month we will begin the big Holiday release schedule. In general during this kind of release year we get some major stuff that breaks during the whole period. But I don't think outside of game breaking issues that we'll get the more focused coverage we deserve.

If there is anything I wish would happen its that the debate moves from Twitter onto more forums. You simply can not have an intelligent debate with 140 characters. You can only fire off flash point remarks and retorts. But that isn't going to happen because Twitter is a force of nature now practically.

One thing that is for sure , at least concerning my own personal views , I will not be reading many articles from the usual sources about the many games coming this release period. I'm going to stick to the forums (like this one) and look for a general census. The gaming news sites simply are at their lowest point in terms of integrity. Like many other news sites now , you simply can't take anything that's said at face value anymore. Parsing out the truth or even some truth among the gaming press is just about as futile as convincing Kanye West that he isn't the second coming of Christ.
 
Godmachine said:
Well one story that fell through the cracks mostly unnoticed was that 40,000 EA accounts got hacked.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/EA...Hacked-Whistleblower-Steps-Forward-67256.html

I didn't even hear about this until 2 days ago. Mostly because many sites are still pushing Destiny/Gamergate coverage (minus Kotaku which is fixed on Destiny coverage and pretending that it doesn't have a dog in this fight when in fact it has a pack of them..).

That is the kind of example I'm talking about. That should have been front page news and something that was discussed extensively. Instead it got buried by a big game release and an ongoing controversy.

After the 26th of this month we will begin the big Holiday release schedule. In general during this kind of release year we get some major stuff that breaks during the whole period. But I don't think outside of game breaking issues that we'll get the more focused coverage we deserve.

If there is anything I wish would happen its that the debate moves from Twitter onto more forums. You simply can not have an intelligent debate with 140 characters. You can only fire off flash point remarks and retorts. But that isn't going to happen because Twitter is a force of nature now practically.

One thing that is for sure , at least concerning my own personal views , I will not be reading many articles from the usual sources about the many games coming this release period. I'm going to stick to the forums (like this one) and look for a general census. The gaming news sites simply are at their lowest point in terms of integrity. Like many other news sites now , you simply can't take anything that's said at face value anymore. Parsing out the truth or even some truth among the gaming press is just about as futile as convincing Kanye West that he isn't the second coming of Christ.
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Thank you for this link. I really don't like the way how this story on the Vbulletin hack on Firemonkeys (Real Racing 3) turned out...
 
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