How to find a mouse with precise click action

[the_servicer]

How do I find a mouse in which single clicks are not misinterpreted as double clicks?

I have found this to be a common problem on many mice I have tried.

Do I need to look for a higher-end mouse that might cost more? I am willing to do that because I am rather tired of dealing with this issue.

Any brand or model recommendations?

 

[MysticRyuujin]

Never in my life have I had this issue. Can you not simply decrease the double click speed on your system?

In Windows you can specify the length of time between clicks that represents a double click...

 

[_PixelNinja]

Never in my life have I had this issue. Can you not simply decrease the double click speed on your system?

In Windows you can specify the length of time between clicks that represents a double click...

What the OP is referring too is a malfunction of the switch mechanism which is not that uncommon with Omron switches. However, I do not know if this is because of the sheer number of mice using these switches which makes the proportion of failure rates higher, or if Omrons are indeed more prone to malfunction than say Huano switches.

 

[TinLizard]

I ended up buying a 30 pack of switches and just replace them when they start acting up. This isn't for everybody though because it voids warranty, you usually need to replace the mouse feet, and it requires solder skills. As far as I know, most mice nowadays use Omron switches so I'm not sure you can get away from it.

 

[Nenu]

I have had this happen on a 3 yr old mouse after the button wore out.
Buy better mice.

 

[cyclone3d]

Never in my life have I had this issue. Can you not simply decrease the double click speed on your system?

In Windows you can specify the length of time between clicks that represents a double click...

I've also never seen this issue on any mouse. Then again, I generally only ever buy Logitech mice.

I bought the first wireless optical mouse they every released. That was over 12 years ago and it still works just fine.

The only button problems have ever seen on mice is when the click action breaks and the button really doesn't work at all anymore.

 

[the_servicer]

I wonder if I should try this Logitech pad or if the same problem could still occur.

In Windows you can specify the length of time between clicks that represents a double click...

I am actually using Chrome OS. As far as I know there are no double click settings to adjust.

I just want good solid mechanical action where a click is a click.

 

[Nenu]

I wonder if I should try this Logitech pad or if the same problem could still occur.

Not quite the same as a mouse button.

I am actually using Chrome OS. As far as I know there are no double click settings to adjust.

I just want good solid mechanical action where a click is a click.

Dont buy cheap mice.

 

[the_servicer]

And if it's only a matter of gradual performance degradation, then that suggests the possibility of finding good cheap mice that work well for a while. If they're cheap enough, then having to replace them on a regular basis isn't the worst thing. I noticed that my cheap Dell mouse worked well for a while and then recently started doing inadvertent double clicks.

This was the first thing that came to my mind, actually. I just wondered if someone here could offer a better solution.

 

[Nenu]

Dont buy cheap mice.

 

[_PixelNinja]

Buy better mice.

Dont buy cheap mice.

All mice; expensive ones included are prone to this problem.

Then again, I generally only ever buy Logitech mice.

As stated above, all mice are prone to this problem. You can pay a visit to the Logitech forums and see for yourself how frequent it is on their products such as the G series mice. I can't even count how many times I've seen people around me having the switches fail. Luckily though, Logitech have a very good customer service and more often than not replace the mouse.

 

[Nenu]

Its a mode of failure for microswitches.
Some early failures are expected.
Some late failures are expected.
On occasion there may also be a faulty batch of microswitches.
With the amount of mice Logitech sell, you can expect their forums to be full of complaints of this nature.

By buying a cheap mouse, you increase the chance of receiving substandard components, they arent going to care if the lifespan is beyond the warranty period.

 

[_PixelNinja]

Its a mode of failure for microswitches.
Some early failures are expected.
Some late failures are expected.
On occasion there may also be a faulty batch of microswitches.
With the amount of mice Logitech sell, you can expect their forums to be full of complaints of this nature.

By buying a cheap mouse, you increase the chance of receiving substandard components, they arent going to care if the lifespan is beyond the warranty period.

Formulated as such, I will agree.

 

[cyclone3d]

All mice; expensive ones included are prone to this problem.


As stated above, all mice are prone to this problem. You can pay a visit to the Logitech forums and see for yourself how frequent it is on their products such as the G series mice. I can't even count how many times I've seen people around me having the switches fail. Luckily though, Logitech have a very good customer service and more often than not replace the mouse.

How many mice do they sell vs. how many complaints do they have?

My current mouse for my main rig is a G9 that I have had for a few years. Has never given me a problem. I also have a M510 for work that I have had for about a year.. again no problems.

One of my other systems also has a newer Logitech keyboard/mouse combo that I have had for over a year.. again, no problems.

I have another Logitech mouse that is probably 4-5 years old that I use when I am working on systems.. and it has never given me any problems either.

The very first Logitech mouse I ever bought.. the optical wireless one I mentioned in a previous post was given to a family member and is still working just fine even after 12+ years.

The only Logitech mouse I have ever had problems with was a second hand G7... the wireless started acting up on it and Logitech replaced it with a brand new G9.

Even if you have a Logitech mouse or other device that has problems, their customer service is one of the best, if not the best in the industry.

I am really wondering if a lot of mouse button problems come from "rage clicking" when playing games.. especially on the G series. I am sure if I mashed my mouse buttons as hard as I could all the time that they wouldn't last near as long as they do.

 

[Skull_Angel]

How many mice do they sell vs. how many complaints do they have?

My current mouse for my main rig is a G9 that I have had for a few years. Has never given me a problem. I also have a M510 for work that I have had for about a year.. again no problems.

One of my other systems also has a newer Logitech keyboard/mouse combo that I have had for over a year.. again, no problems.

I have another Logitech mouse that is probably 4-5 years old that I use when I am working on systems.. and it has never given me any problems either.

The very first Logitech mouse I ever bought.. the optical wireless one I mentioned in a previous post was given to a family member and is still working just fine even after 12+ years.

The only Logitech mouse I have ever had problems with was a second hand G7... the wireless started acting up on it and Logitech replaced it with a brand new G9.

Even if you have a Logitech mouse or other device that has problems, their customer service is one of the best, if not the best in the industry.

I am really wondering if a lot of mouse button problems come from "rage clicking" when playing games.. especially on the G series. I am sure if I mashed my mouse buttons as hard as I could all the time that they wouldn't last near as long as they do.

Mouse brand really has little to do with the reliability of their micro-switches since they're manufactured by a third-party (the mouse manufacturers only have control over the choice of micro-switch used in their devices); the double-click issues can be caused by either faulty hardware or incorrect debounce settings (either the timing recommended by the switch manufacturer is too tight/incorrect or the timing set by the mouse manufacturer is too tight/incorrect), and the mouse manufacturer will normally discount the issue [as hardware failure] unless a large portion of the users base complains about it.

 

[_PixelNinja]

Mouse brand really has little to do with the reliability of their micro-switches since they're manufactured by a third-party (the mouse manufacturers only have control over the choice of micro-switch used in their devices); the double-click issues can be caused by either faulty hardware or incorrect debounce settings (either the timing recommended by the switch manufacturer is too tight/incorrect or the timing set by the mouse manufacturer is too tight/incorrect), and the mouse manufacturer will normally discount the issue [as hardware failure] unless a large portion of the users base complains about it.

You beat me to it.

 

[cyclone3d]

Mouse brand really has little to do with the reliability of their micro-switches since they're manufactured by a third-party (the mouse manufacturers only have control over the choice of micro-switch used in their devices); the double-click issues can be caused by either faulty hardware or incorrect debounce settings (either the timing recommended by the switch manufacturer is too tight/incorrect or the timing set by the mouse manufacturer is too tight/incorrect), and the mouse manufacturer will normally discount the issue [as hardware failure] unless a large portion of the users base complains about it.

That leads me to believe that Logitech either does extra testing or uses better micro switches or has the pressure points on the buttons aligned better than some other manufacturers of mice.

Some mice I have used in the past have had wonky buttons where the click just doesn't feel right. I've also had a few mice where the buttons stopped clicking all together... but never a Logitech.

Maybe I am just lucky.. or maybe other people are just a lot harder on their mice than I.

The double click thing sounds more like a user issue or using way more pressure than required to activate the micro switch, causing it to wear out faster.

I also wonder if it has anything to do with temperature, humidity, or user cleanliness. It would not surprise me in the least if any/all of those have something to do with it. If you have ever had to work on a machine that the user is a slob, you would completely understand.

The double click thing sounds like it could be caused by corrosion and/or dirt getting inside the switch causing a poor connection.

What about solder or cord connections? Those could be a cause as well.

 

[Nenu]

The double click is known problem, due to the buttons connection not settling in time.
You press the button once and it double clicks, regardless of driver or windows settings.

As pointed out earlier, the anti bounce setting in the firmware 'could' be tweaked to alleviate it in some circumstances if the option was given, or a different firmware provided.

The anti bounce is to prevent the many connects/disconnects in the very short time after a button is pressed.
The longer it waits for the connection to stabilise, the greater the lag from the button being pressed - to it being registered.
So while a lot of double click problems could be alleviated by increasing the anti bounce time, they can make the mouse clicks lag too much.

The question is, should they provide an option for the consumer to change the anti bounce?
It would bring up a lot more support calls and some people will claim the quality of the mouse isnt as good.
Expectation of review quality needs to be met.
It also means that mice out of warranty can be tweaked to last longer, reducing sales of new mice.
There isnt a lot of positive incentive for the mfrs to provide this setting for users to tweak, the reverse in fact.

 

[Skull_Angel]

That leads me to believe that Logitech either does extra testing or uses better micro switches or has the pressure points on the buttons aligned better than some other manufacturers of mice.

Some mice I have used in the past have had wonky buttons where the click just doesn't feel right. I've also had a few mice where the buttons stopped clicking all together... but never a Logitech.

Maybe I am just lucky.. or maybe other people are just a lot harder on their mice than I.

The double click thing sounds more like a user issue or using way more pressure than required to activate the micro switch, causing it to wear out faster.

I also wonder if it has anything to do with temperature, humidity, or user cleanliness. It would not surprise me in the least if any/all of those have something to do with it. If you have ever had to work on a machine that the user is a slob, you would completely understand.

The double click thing sounds like it could be caused by corrosion and/or dirt getting inside the switch causing a poor connection.

What about solder or cord connections? Those could be a cause as well.

A google search will provide links to Logitech mice incurring double-click issues the same as any other high-volume mouse. The pre-mature hardware failure of micro-switches is one of those thing that just happens and can not be completely accounted for because of the nature of the beast; the best that can be done for QC testing is to test a (number of) switch(es) out of how ever many the manufacturing company or buyer deems necessary to ensure the estimated quality of the product (remember, more QC often costs more money).

The factors that you list would most likely cause a signal failure. The only way I'm aware of that would add extra signals of this nature would be poor firmware or switch bounce that surpasses the firmware's debounce timing.