Nvidia G-SYNC DIY Kits Now Available ($199)

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WOW thats way more then i though they would be.

i was expecting 99 bucks for some reason.
 
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WOW thats way more then i though they would be.

i was expecting 99 bucks for some reason.
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Why would NVIDIA make it cheap when you can rip people off?

If you pay $200 you are more likely to continue going with NVIDIA as you wouldn't want that $200 to be wasted as only NVIDIA can use G-SYNC.

Its the same as Apple, high prices to trap you into a closed eco-system.
 
Doesn't it void the warranty on the monitor? Might be best to wait for the integrated version from Asus.
 
G-SYNC isn't for the average customer. It's an enthusiast piece of hardware at an enthusiast level price, much like a GTX 780 Ti or Titan. Similar G-SYNC equipped monitors are expected to be over $500, and a VG248QE with this add on comes out to just about that much or a little less. Nearly everyone who has experienced it says it's revolutionary and have a hard time going back to a non G-SYNC equipped monitor.

For anyone who already owns this monitor (like me), or can't wait any longer for G-SYNC then this is a great opportunity to get your hands on the technology. This is Hardforum after all, a hardware enthusiast forum.
 
If someone hacks this to work on AMD hardware I'm all in. Otherwise waiting to see how Mantle plays out. If that turns out to be a bust, I'll probably swap back to NVIDIA and try this. I'm excited to see it!
 
exlink said:
G-SYNC isn't for the average customer. It's an enthusiast piece of hardware at an enthusiast level price, much like a GTX 780 Ti or Titan. Similar G-SYNC equipped monitors are expected to be over $500, and a VG248QE with this add on comes out to just about that much or a little less. Nearly everyone who has experienced it says it's revolutionary and have a hard time going back to a non G-SYNC equipped monitor.

For anyone who already owns this monitor (like me), or can't wait any longer for G-SYNC then this is a great opportunity to get your hands on the technology. This is Hardforum after all, a hardware enthusiast forum.
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Fully agree on this as well. Seems more and more average pc consumers come on these sites (especially AMD fanboys) complaining about pricing for enthusiast products lol.

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By Q4 you will see even better monitors with it. Keep an eye on http://overlordforum.com/
Or now worlds first http://rog.asus.com/296652014/news/...78q-swift-27-inch-wqhd-g-sync-gaming-monitor/

Why is the display TN rather than IPS/PVA/MVA, etc?
Not all TN’s are made the same: the premium panel used in the PG278Q is of very high quality. IPS panels (and their derivatives like PVA/MVA etc) are not suitable for a multitude of reasons: 1) the response rate is simply not fast enough to react to the active change in refresh rate and 2) They cannot reliably achieve >60Hz without significantly affecting the quality of the image. IGZO technology (and LTPS – low temperature polysilicon – likewise) – yields 100′s of times faster electron mobility versus standard amorphous silicon panels – and thus can provide a response rate comparable to TN (up to 60Hz currently), but, however desirable this technology is, it is still currently cost prohibitively for many PC gaming enthusiasts in 2014, which is why ROG has used a better price:performance, high quality TN panel.
 
Klapcos said:
By Q4 you will see even better monitors with it. Keep an eye on http://overlordforum.com/
Or now worlds first http://rog.asus.com/296652014/news/...78q-swift-27-inch-wqhd-g-sync-gaming-monitor/

Why is the display TN rather than IPS/PVA/MVA, etc?
Not all TN’s are made the same: the premium panel used in the PG278Q is of very high quality. IPS panels (and their derivatives like PVA/MVA etc) are not suitable for a multitude of reasons: 1) the response rate is simply not fast enough to react to the active change in refresh rate and 2) They cannot reliably achieve >60Hz without significantly affecting the quality of the image. IGZO technology (and LTPS – low temperature polysilicon – likewise) – yields 100′s of times faster electron mobility versus standard amorphous silicon panels – and thus can provide a response rate comparable to TN (up to 60Hz currently), but, however desirable this technology is, it is still currently cost prohibitively for many PC gaming enthusiasts in 2014, which is why ROG has used a better price:performance, high quality TN panel.
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Looking forward to this monitor!
 
exlink said:
G-SYNC isn't for the average customer. It's an enthusiast piece of hardware at an enthusiast level price, much like a GTX 780 Ti or Titan. Similar G-SYNC equipped monitors are expected to be over $500, and a VG248QE with this add on comes out to just about that much or a little less. Nearly everyone who has experienced it says it's revolutionary and have a hard time going back to a non G-SYNC equipped monitor.

For anyone who already owns this monitor (like me), or can't wait any longer for G-SYNC then this is a great opportunity to get your hands on the technology. This is Hardforum after all, a hardware enthusiast forum.
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The issue is that its $200 for something you may not be able to use anymore in 2 years.

GPUs advance pretty fast and enthusiasts switch often. This would lock you into NVIDIA even if AMD GPUs because twice as fast as NVIDIA.

@Klapcos

Funny, I mainly see people complaining about the price of the 290X despite the fact it is the fastest GPU on the market.
 
Spazturtle said:
Why would NVIDIA make it cheap when you can rip people off?

If you pay $200 you are more likely to continue going with NVIDIA as you wouldn't want that $200 to be wasted as only NVIDIA can use G-SYNC.

Its the same as Apple, high prices to trap you into a closed eco-system.
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Sounds like good business.

In the end, the consumer still holds the power of choice. Use it.
 
$99 by the end of the year... Or at least $150

It's just....retarded to use these on a 144hz monitor, unless I've been out of the loop and something has changed. I thought these were going to be directed or more beneficial to those 60hz type.
 
Rizen said:
If someone hacks this to work on AMD hardware I'm all in. Otherwise waiting to see how Mantle plays out. If that turns out to be a bust, I'll probably swap back to NVIDIA and try this. I'm excited to see it!
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Mantle and G-Sync. A debate between more frames or smoother framerate.

I think most people would choose a smoother frame rate.
 
Rizen said:
If someone hacks this to work on AMD hardware I'm all in. Otherwise waiting to see how Mantle plays out. If that turns out to be a bust, I'll probably swap back to NVIDIA and try this. I'm excited to see it!
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The G-Sync module checks if it is a NVIDIA cards, if it is not an NVIDIA card then it won't use G-Sync. NVIDIA have locked it down so nobody else can use it.
 
Spazturtle said:
The G-Sync module checks if it is a NVIDIA cards, if it is not an NVIDIA card then it won't use G-Sync. NVIDIA have locked it down so nobody else can use it.
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I fully understand this, which is why I said "If someone hacks this", just like people have workarounds to run a secondary PhysX card when an AMD card is the primary GPU.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Mantle and G-Sync. A debate between more frames or smoother framerate.

I think most people would choose a smoother frame rate.
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Ultimately it depends on how developers utilize Mantle though and how much greater performance it offers. GSync still has some minimum FPS requirements. I play on a 60Hz IPS panel now so I am not super sensitive to refresh rates as long as my games stay >60fps which isn't too difficult with 290X CF.
 
Rizen said:
Ultimately it depends on how developers utilize Mantle though and how much greater performance it offers. GSync still has some minimum FPS requirements. I play on a 60Hz IPS panel now so I am not super sensitive to refresh rates as long as my games stay >60fps which isn't too difficult with 290X CF.
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What if you want to enable high levels of Shadows and AA, both Mantle and G-Sync are below 60fps, which will offer the better experience?
If frames average over 60fps but dip below 60fps, which will offer the better experience?
I think some of us are secretly hoping Mantle makes games average above 100fps or something.

Mantle offers more performance based on a single game when released.
G-Sync offers smooth frame rates on all games right now.
 
WorldExclusive said:
What if you want to enable high levels of Shadows and AA, both Mantle and G-Sync are below 60fps, which will offer the better experience?
If frames average over 60fps but dip below 60fps, which will offer the better experience?
I think some of us are secretly hoping Mantle makes games average above 100fps or something.

Mantle offers more performance based on a single game when released.
G-Sync offers smooth frame rates on all games right now.
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I totally understand what you are saying. Ultimately, I won't be able to decide until I can try both for myself. I'm going to wait until Maxwell though. GK110 is pretty much maxed out now and is going on a 2 year old design. If Maxwell delivers, I'll switch sides again and try out GSync.

But I am really optimistic about Mantle too, so I'm sitting on the fence until the dust settles a bit.
 
Rizen said:
I totally understand what you are saying. Ultimately, I won't be able to decide until I can try both for myself. I'm going to wait until Maxwell though. GK110 is pretty much maxed out now and is going on a 2 year old design. If Maxwell delivers, I'll switch sides again and try out GSync.

But I am really optimistic about Mantle too, so I'm sitting on the fence until the dust settles a bit.
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Even though I don't want this thread to turn into a Mantle vs. G-SYNC thread; keep in mind that Mantle is an open API that, if Nvidia wishes to, they can adopt and use as well. G-SYNC, on the other hand, is proprietary to Nvidia hardware only. I understand that AMD will have "FreeSync" but that is just a concept right now (and probably will be for a long time) unlike G-SYNC which is now a solidified product available to consumers.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Mantle and G-Sync. A debate between more frames or smoother framerate.

I think most people would choose a smoother frame rate.
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Plus Gsync should work with most games old and new.

$199 is not bad considering some people have added a second video card to their system for more than that.
 
exlink said:
Even though I don't want this thread to turn into a Mantle vs. G-SYNC thread; keep in mind that Mantle is an open API that, if Nvidia wishes to, they can adopt and use as well. G-SYNC, on the other hand, is proprietary to Nvidia hardware only. I understand that AMD will have "FreeSync" but that is just a concept right now (and probably will be for a long time) unlike G-SYNC which is now a solidified product available to consumers.
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I hope that NVIDIA adopts Mantle too. In a perfect world NVIDIA would adopt Mantle and NVIDIA would open up GSync.

In a perfect world...
 
exlink said:
Even though I don't want this thread to turn into a Mantle vs. G-SYNC thread; keep in mind that Mantle is an open API that, if Nvidia wishes to, they can adopt and use as well. G-SYNC, on the other hand, is proprietary to Nvidia hardware only. I understand that AMD will have "FreeSync" but that is just a concept right now (and probably will be for a long time) unlike G-SYNC which is now a solidified product available to consumers.
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It's still unclear what is needed to activate Mantle. Mantle isn't even out in the consumer space yet, so asking Nv to support unproven tech now is a bit early.
Second, is it a driver? Does it required hardware changes? Nvidia has already developed Maxwell. If Mantle is hardware dependent on any level, don't expect any response from Nv until a new arch is made.

Also Nvidia's Mantle patch will be inferior to AMD native Mantle support. AMD will be faster and Nvidia will still lose ground even if they support it, users will buy AMD even more.
I think G-Sync which support all games right now is a better investment.
 
PRIME1 said:
Plus Gsync should work with most games old and new.

$199 is not bad considering some people have added a second video card to their system for more than that.
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WorldExclusive said:
I think G-Sync which support all games right now is a better investment.
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You two may want to get together and decide whether G-Sync supports all games (false) or even most games (likely still false).
 
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