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Dell monitor for gaming?

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dario03

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Hi guys, I have some gift cards for Dell that I have to use in the next couple of weeks so I was thinking about getting a monitor. So I'm just wondering if anybody could suggest a good sub $400 monitor that I can get from Dell?
My primary concern is gaming or more so how well the monitor handles motion.
I also want a screen that is matte or has a good AR filter on it.
And I'm looking for 24-27" would prefer 16:10 and higher resolution but at my budget 1920:1080 would be ok.

I found these on the Dell site so is any of these a good choice? Or is there something better that I missed?

P2714H http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=210-ABIH
U2412M http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-2676
 
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All of Dells current monitors are inferior and/or suffer from more quality related issues vs. competitors. There are no P series reviews


Benq bl2411pt
As vs279q
Qnix qx2710

There are threads here with review links for all of these

The u2412 uses a grainy matte coating and is not as good as most of the newer 1200p ah-ips
 
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Well that figures :(
But like I said I got giftcards from Dell (over $200) that I need to use soon. And there isn't really anything else I need from Dell so I'm kind of stuck with their monitors.
 
Have you looked at the S2740L vs the P series? I assume the 2713HM is outside what you've budgeted.
 
All Dell S series models suffer from obvious overshoot ghosting & glass monitors are more reflective vs. glossy and have grayish blacks.

Multiple U2713HM's are being sold, old versions suffer from cross-hatching (google it) and the newest revision has worse colours, obvious overshoot ghosting & may have cross-hatching issues too . Yellow & regular light bleeding issues also apply. Check the overclock.net thread for horror stories.

Best to avoid Dell monitors.
 
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i will still say i love my dell u2412M Monitor, but i am no pro and i am used to Dell TN panel prior.
 
NCX said:
All Dell S series models suffer from obvious overshoot ghosting & glass monitors are more reflective vs. glossy and have grayish blacks.

Multiple U2713HM's are being sold, old versions suffer from cross-hatching (google it) and the newest revision has worse colours, obvious overshoot ghosting & may have cross-hatching issues too . Yellow & regular light bleeding issues also apply. Check the overclock.net thread for horror stories.

Best to avoid Dell monitors.
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Read the OP ffs
 
NCX said:
Best to avoid Dell monitors.
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I think your hatred towards Dell is making your opinions biased and not fair :( e.g. saying grey blacks is out of order given that one could easily argue all LCD's have grey blacks compared to plasma or OLED

Are you an ex-Dell employee with an axe to grind or just have a lot of shares in competitors?


The OP should take a look at the Dell 29" U2913WM. TFTCentral rated the backlight uniformity as excellent and contrast is the highest of any LCD panel right now.
 
If I had a to buy a monitor today, I'd be pissed- there are no 'great' monitors out there. Some are very good, but none actually cover all of the bases, regardless of price.

So it comes down to priorities. What's important?

Games? Input lag first, pixel response time second, black level at gaming brightness levels (~200nits) third, overall contrast fourth, viewing angles fifth, color accuracy/uniformity/gamut sixth; consider refresh rate if need be, but you're either getting a TN or a Korean IPS (or imported and rebadged Korean IPS, same idea, higher cost, fewer issues) for >60Hz.

Desktop use? Whatever fricken' works. I find TNs to be excellent here, as they have the 'sharpest' text. Good TNs have better than average viewing angles, colors and blacks, and work well here.

Color-critical work? Color gamut/accuracy/calibration, along with overall contrast and panel uniformity.

Media/movies? Blacks, and pixel response, then colors.

Overall no monitor/panel does everything well. Best choices, though, are the cheaper IPS panels from Dell/Asus/others that one way or another have very little input lag, then the Lightboost 120Hz TNs, then the >60Hz Korean IPS monitors, along with some MVA/other *VA panels that somehow have low actual input lag. Decent TN's are great on a budget, and higher-end IPS monitors with very little input lag (like my 1600p HP ZR30w) work very well too- the cheaper Korean/Korean import IPS panels fall here, though note that pixel response is a little slower with these, which is exacerbated by 60Hz inputs.

So, what's important to you?
 
NCX said:
Benq bl2411pt
As vs279q
Qnix qx2710
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Where can you buy any of these for a remotely comparable price? As far as I can tell, the Benq BL2411PT is barely available in North America at all(just one Amazon marketplace seller) and it's $360+ which is far more expensive than a U2412M($270 on amazon.com, even lower during Dell sales), and same for both of these other options.

In these "U2412M sucks" responses I'd really like to see someone cite a monitor that is well below $300, because IMO telling people to buy things that are 30-40% more expensive is a little silly. I mean, of course if you spend THAT much more you can get a better screen.
 
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No other company sells monitors with as many defects/quality control issues as Dell. Most newer IPS/PLS panels have 900-1200:1 contrast ratios. Do some research before ignorantly accusing others of being biased.

The frame-less models inner black bezel is so dark it makes the blacks look grayish. The Viewsonic VX2770SMH I reviewed had a 1300:1 contrast ratio but the blacks still looked lighter than my former Samsung S27A850D (semi-glossy coating, matte gray bezel, 850:1 contrast) & Crossover 27270MDP (glossy coating, glossy bezel, 850:1 contrast).

No frame-less IPS can produce bezel blending/true blacks in a normally lit room. A displays bezel & coating can make or break a monitors ability to display blacks as blacks in a normally lit room.

Displays with glass are even worse than the frame-less IPS monitors.

Left glass vs. right semi-glossy (same-ish coating as matte Qnix/X-Star). Both monitors were set to 140nits & have a 900:1 contrast ratio. The S2740L & ACD are the same as the Samsung.

Left Glass vs. Right Glossy. Both monitors were set to 140nits & have similar contrast ratios.

The 21:9 Dell has slow pixel response times for an IPS panel & much higher input lag vs. the AOC & LG. The NEC is also better for gaming & is the only 21:9 monitor with a proper bezel.
 
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NCX isn't just blowing smoke, he does extensive testing on monitors, he is the reason I picked up a HP 2509b years ago. Don't take it personal if he says that new Dells are crap, he is just stating the facts as of right now.
 
Main problems with Dell is the fact that they leave no possibility to change the overdrive setting like pretty much all other monitor manufacturers do. This fact in combination with that they use fairly aggressive overdrive parameters makes things even worse.

Therefore I would look at the new monitors in the P-line for a bit. P2714H, that is. You never know. They might have changed their minds about this and included a overdrive setting feature in this new lineup. I would not count on it though.
 
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