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Looks like Ubuntu is moving to phones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXWnMTm7We8
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there are more android computers than windows ones. linux won the war and nobody noticed.
Linux is still in the realm of the informed user. Microsoft is for the "average Joes" of the world. The user is key.
The typical Microsoft user has zero clue about even installing an OS. They have zero clue about Linux, or any alternative (except, perhaps Apple) OS. They do not care what OS is on the computer, as long as they can turn it on, do simple tasks (surf the web, update Facebook, maybe light office work) and turn if off again.
This is not a bashing of Microsoft users, far from it. It is a full on reflection as to how the majority view and use computers. They do not care what OS it has, as long as it is simple to use.
Microsoft DID screw up with Win 8. The non-[H]ard users, the non-tech savvy are confused, and reluctant to buy Win 8. A big mistake, because the average Joe is the exact target consumer for Microsoft. Average Joes are leery of change. Change means they have to forget how they did things, and learn something new. This is a big road block.
Sure Win 8 is not rocket science, but there are those who won't change simply due to them seeing the new learning curve.
Will that force them to Linux? No. They only way to force Average Joe to swap OS is to sell it on the computer they buy at Walmart, or Best Buy. And if it is too different from what they already had, they will not buy it. They will buy the one which looks and acts like the things they are used to.
As for more informed users, this may be an event to get them to look at Linux? Maybe. But not due to the Win 8 learning curve.
The Marketplace concept disturbs me. The 30% markup Micro$oft wants to charge, plus the inevitable blocking of non-Marketplace "apps" (in my day "programs") concerns me. Do I want to pay an additional 30% premium for computer games, be charged fees for presently free programs when they are forced to go through Marketplace, and be limited even more in my choice? I am not blind, and I do see the future route Microsoft wants to go.
So, yes, perhaps it is time for me to look at Linux, for a future replacement, not now, as 7 is fine and dandy, but within a few years, as I do not like what I see coming down the pike.
Microsoft DID screw up with Win 8. The non-[H]ard users, the non-tech savvy are confused, and reluctant to buy Win 8. A big mistake, because the average Joe is the exact target consumer for Microsoft. Average Joes are leery of change. Change means they have to forget how they did things, and learn something new. This is a big road block.
I'd love to go to Linux as my default OS... There would be a whole lot of positives in doing so but it's lack of software selection leaves me with windows (or macOS). It usually has decent clones available for most stuff, but until I can get my steam catalog on it, it'll always be a secondary OS for me.
I'm really hoping Valve gets more developers onboard with their release of Steam on Ubuntu
I don't think you can equate a phone with a desktop or laptop.
You're not blind just paranoid....When microsofts desktop os becomes a walled garden pretty sure pigs will fly and everyone will be using linux.Linux is still in the realm of the informed user. Microsoft is for the "average Joes" of the world. The user is key.
The typical Microsoft user has zero clue about even installing an OS. They have zero clue about Linux, or any alternative (except, perhaps Apple) OS. They do not care what OS is on the computer, as long as they can turn it on, do simple tasks (surf the web, update Facebook, maybe light office work) and turn if off again.
This is not a bashing of Microsoft users, far from it. It is a full on reflection as to how the majority view and use computers. They do not care what OS it has, as long as it is simple to use.
Microsoft DID screw up with Win 8. The non-[H]ard users, the non-tech savvy are confused, and reluctant to buy Win 8. A big mistake, because the average Joe is the exact target consumer for Microsoft. Average Joes are leery of change. Change means they have to forget how they did things, and learn something new. This is a big road block.
Sure Win 8 is not rocket science, but there are those who won't change simply due to them seeing the new learning curve.
Will that force them to Linux? No. They only way to force Average Joe to swap OS is to sell it on the computer they buy at Walmart, or Best Buy. And if it is too different from what they already had, they will not buy it. They will buy the one which looks and acts like the things they are used to.
As for more informed users, this may be an event to get them to look at Linux? Maybe. But not due to the Win 8 learning curve.
The Marketplace concept disturbs me. The 30% markup Micro$oft wants to charge, plus the inevitable blocking of non-Marketplace "apps" (in my day "programs") concerns me. Do I want to pay an additional 30% premium for computer games, be charged fees for presently free programs when they are forced to go through Marketplace, and be limited even more in my choice? I am not blind, and I do see the future route Microsoft wants to go.
So, yes, perhaps it is time for me to look at Linux, for a future replacement, not now, as 7 is fine and dandy, but within a few years, as I do not like what I see coming down the pike.
Fourteen straight years of the "Year of Linux".
Try installing Linux on a laptop. Bonus points if you can get wireless working.
Works flawlessly for me. What is your issue?
Works flawlessly for me. What is your issue?
Works flawlessly for me. What is your issue?
YES!
Wait, wasn't that supposed to be last year, or the year before that, or the year before that?
The Mayan calendar ended already. Wonder when this will.
And I hate when they call it Linux. Ok, command line and Lynx is Linux. Ubuntu is little Linux and mostly GNU OSS software.
Behold! Ubuntu... for phones!
http://www.androidcentral.com/canonical-announces-its-ubuntu-smartphone-os
Coolest feature is definitely that if you plug a monitor, keyboard and mouse to your phone you'd get a full desktop Ubuntu experience.
That's what I envision the future to be like; instead of laptops, phones, tablets and desktops, you'll get one device (phone? phablet?) plug it in and add peripherals and you're now hammering away on your desktop.
Canonical gets it. As much crap as Unity gets, most of it is unwarranted. It's not a tablet or phone UI. Unity works with hotkeys far better than any Linux interface (HUD + Unity launcher = keyboard heaven). When you dock that Ubuntu phone, you don't feel lost on the desktop Unity interface. Each one is aimed at a different form factor and they don't try to jam one or the other into a form factor where it doesn't fit (hear that Microsoft?). The question is, will the hardware vendors and OEMs follow? I hope so, but I've been disappointed far too many times to count.
Most issues people have with Linux are the same issues with the early versions of Windows or OS X: too few users and not enough attention. Hardware vendors don't dedicate enough time to working out the issues with their Linux drivers (or in some cases don't provide a driver at all) while the software community doesn't port over its applications for a small user base.
If I can game and do my CAD on Linux, I'd have no reason to pay Microsoft any money for a Windows license. It's a chicken-or-the-egg scenario, really. Do developers/hardware vendors come first or does the market share have to come first? I don't think one would come without the other. That's why Steam making the switch is getting so much attention. There really isn't any good reason to tie you to Windows or OS X or any other OS other than the software available (games, work-related stuff) and a large user base that gets proper treatment (drivers, firmware, etc.). OS X has been gaining market share steadily for some years now, it'd be nice to have a third party enter the ring.
Buy Intel hardware and it works out of the box every-time...
Try installing Linux on a laptop. Bonus points if you can get wireless working.