No Ivy Bridge In '11

[beardawnwood]

Tri-gate to hit the big time a year from now.

Intel's Sandy Bridge chip and platform is the top-of-the-line right now and it's what you want if you're looking for a new Intel-based desktop or laptop.

Sandy Bridge's successor, Ivy Bridge, was originally thought to debut late in 2011, but now an updated Intel roadmap along with comments made by executives at Computex confirm that the next generation processor will debut in 2012 instead.

This leaked slide found by a Chinese site plots out Ivy Bridge's entry sometime during March and April next year.

Futhermore, Intel's Executive Vice President Sean Maloney confirmed at his Computex keynote that Ivy Bridge is scheduled for availability in systems in the first half of 2012.

Ivy Bridge itself will be an impressive bump over Sandy Bridge already with it being the first high-volume chip based on Intel’s 22 nanometer manufacturing technology that uses a revolutionary 3-D transistor design called Tri-Gate announced in May. Maloney also highlighted complimentary USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt technologies which are part of Intel’s ongoing work to drive the PC platform forward.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ivy-bridge-sandy-launch-processors,12828.html

 

[drescherjm]

No Ivy Bridge In '11

That was expected. LGA2011 is in Q3 or Q4 but ivy bridge is in Q2 2012. I believe there was some rumors/hope for Q1 2012 ivy bridge.

Edit: What I find interesting is no speed bumps for 2500K or lower for a whole year and the >2600K are they talking about lga2011?

 

[PGHammer]

That was expected. LGA2011 is in Q3 or Q4 but ivy bridge is in Q2 2012. I believe there was some rumors/hope for Q1 2012 ivy bridge.

Edit: What I find interesting is no speed bumps for 2500K or lower for a whole year and the >2600K are they talking about lga2011?

There is also reference to the Sandy Bridge-E (which launches in Q4 '11) in both quad-core and hexacore, and is apparently designed to push the current second-gen i-series down toward, if not into, mainstream territory, They did NOT say what socket SB-E occupies; merely that it would replace i7-980X (which is an LGA1366 part) and would slot above i5-K and i7-K, but underneath the EE.

 

[drescherjm]

Hmm. You are correct. So there are plans for a possible faster than 2600K for lga1155. Maybe that was in reserve if AMD delivers with bulldozer.

 

[modulus]

as stated, i was never aware that IB was to come out in 2011.

As far as no new speed bumps for 2500k i don't know what you're really expecting. the 2500k is unlocked, the 2600k is unlocked with hyperthreading. i suppose they could relabel the same chip and send it out with a higher base frequency but there wouldn't really be any point to that.

As far as SB-E, it's pretty well understood that SB-E will occupy socket 2011.

 

[PGHammer]

as stated, i was never aware that IB was to come out in 2011.

As far as no new speed bumps for 2500k i don't know what you're really expecting. the 2500k is unlocked, the 2600k is unlocked with hyperthreading. i suppose they could relabel the same chip and send it out with a higher base frequency but there wouldn't really be any point to that.

As far as SB-E, it's pretty well understood that SB-E will occupy socket 2011.

I didn't contest that part; however, because of where it fits in the lineup, everything below it (which is everything but Xeon/EE) should drop in price.

With SB-E in three months, and Pentium-G now available (at least from the e-tailers such as Newegg - MC doesn't have any yet), i3 is in a bit of a pickle, as it's already priced way too close to i5 for its own good, and with i5 about to drop even further in price, and increased pressure from underneath (Pentium-G in particular), can it justify itself?

 

[Forceman]

The interesting thing I take from that is that the SB-E 4 core chips will only be "limited unlocked" and you'll have to lay out for a 6 core to get full unlocking. And it does say >= 2600K, so that would seem to open the door to a higher speed chip, if needed.

 

[needmorecarnitine]

Hmm. You are correct. So there are plans for a possible faster than 2600K for lga1155. Maybe that was in reserve if AMD delivers with bulldozer.

Probably has nothing to do with AMD. Intel will be constantly improving their process so they are holding on to the best binned chips for the 2700K(?) that is going to have a better chance to get to/exceed 5GHz.

I didn't contest that part; however, because of where it fits in the lineup, everything below it (which is everything but Xeon/EE) should drop in price.

With SB-E in three months, and Pentium-G now available (at least from the e-tailers such as Newegg - MC doesn't have any yet), i3 is in a bit of a pickle, as it's already priced way too close to i5 for its own good, and with i5 about to drop even further in price, and increased pressure from underneath (Pentium-G in particular), can it justify itself?

I don't see why everything should drop in price. Going by Intel's past, probably won't happen.
Entry level SB-E should be a little more than the 2600K or its replacement. Like $349~399 range.

 

[Ocellaris]

Well looking at that chart, I guess I don't have to worry about this 2500K running out of steam for a while!

 

[PGHammer]

Probably has nothing to do with AMD. Intel will be constantly improving their process so they are holding on to the best binned chips for the 2700K(?) that is going to have a better chance to get to/exceed 5GHz.







I don't see why everything should drop in price. Going by Intel's past, probably won't happen.
Entry level SB-E should be a little more than the 2600K or its replacement. Like $349~399 range.

SB-E will replace LGA1366 (i7-920 and i7-980X) at their current price points, forcing at least those two CPUs (which remain in the product matrix until Q1 2012) downward in price, hence it forcing everything else down in price. I'm not saying that the price cuts will be large; however, they will be enough to put i3 in particular in a bit of a pickle. i5-2500K and i7-2600K will likely wind up at the old Kentsfield (Q6600) and Lynnfield (Q9450) price-point equivalents (which are close to their current price points), as both hang around until IB launches in Q3 of 2012.

While Pentium-G (available now at least in e-tail) is, first and foremost, an entry-level LGA1155 part/LGA775-killer, the lower-priced K-series is meant to pressure Thuban, and partially preempt Bulldozer. With P67/Z68 motherboard pricing now becoming sane, Thuban no longer has a price advantage over LGA1155. Even more problematical (for AMD) how much can it afford to cut even Thuban pricing from current levels? i5-K prices, even at current levels, have Thuban in trouble, and more cuts, even small ones, could put it on the ropes, Bulldozer or not.

 

[needmorecarnitine]

don't know why you picked those two cpus but it doesn't matter as NOTHING has to be forced down in price. Just checked Newegg and the E8500, E8600, Q9550, i5 760 and i7 870 are selling at the EXACT same prices as they did before SB launched. Intel doesn't have to lower anything as they reduce/eliminate production and keep prices the same. Those who want them have to pay.

 

[RamonGTP]

Not really surprised at a 2012 IB release, though I hope its in Q1 or early Q2 at the latest. I don't have any immediate plans to upgrade my system but that could all change in November when BF3 is released. I can probably hold off until Q2 but not much longer if I feel I need an upgrade come November.

 

[Wiseguy2001]

I'm not surprised they pushed IB back, it did seem pointless releasing SB-E and only a few months later superseding it with IB.

The bit that I don't like, is there are no 8 core SB-E's (I'm guessing it's too hot on 32nm), shame.

 

[Rossi~]

I thought we knew this last year? :/

Anywho i'm going to LGA2011 SandyBridge-E, especially as this comes up as their extreme/premium range above the start of IB

 

[Crest]

I'm not surprised they pushed IB back, it did seem pointless releasing SB-E and only a few months later superseding it with IB.

The bit that I don't like, is there are no 8 core SB-E's (I'm guessing it's too hot on 32nm), shame.

same, I want 8 core Sandies.

 

[Creepin_D]

I thought we knew this last year? :/

Anywho i'm going to LGA2011 SandyBridge-E, especially as this comes up as their extreme/premium range above the start of IB

This.

I'm getting tired of my LGA1366 setup, and i'm getting the upgrade itch.(both system and video)

Hurry up fall!!