Before I start overclocking

Boojak said:
erm, I don't know? all of the BIOS are set to default, except the turbo mutli that I have changed (to x45). is this why I'm getting high temps? I hope so... but I dunno... my idle temp is usually 31c. and load temps (without OC) were 50 something.
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if I am you I would go into bios. Reset to default. Get a flash drive and make it booteable with memtest 86 on it. Disable the power saving. enable usb boot.
Then set your ram timings and speed to your rams rated speed and timings. Reboot and see if it boots into windows. If not raise the VccSa voltage by 0.25v. If you ain't able to boot when you reach 1.2v then lower the frequency a bit. Once your able to boot boot with the stick and run mem test for a hour or 20 passes. When its pass move onto the cpu.
 
My room is an attic and I have 3 huge windows. The weather is frigging COLD and WINDY.

Know what I did? I opened all of the windows to let cold air blow my entire room away!

oh shit, my old monitor just fell from the table

anyways, I'm checking the temps right now. 27-29c max idle.... minimum temp was 16c lol.
when I close the windows and the room gets a bit warmer, the temps went back to max idle 34c or so as usual. this doesn't make a huge difference... oh god, i was freezing!

eh, i don't know. why do i have to time/set the RAM sticks? would that really help reduce the cpu temps?

this is depressing and frustrating :( :( :(
 
I would not listen to anything spooony says at this point, it seems like he/she is just trying to spam and while not trying to make it seem like he/she is spamming.

As was pointed out earlier, manually set your vcore. Start off with what it was set in CPU-Z for idle, and slowly lower it one increment at a time until it causes errors in 5 passes LinX/IBT/BSOD. Then go up one notch, and run 20 passes to see if its stable. If not, go up another notch. Lower vcore = lower temps, even at the same frequency.
 
ok, one notch.. like from 1.300 to 1.290 ?

also Isn't there any other setting that I need to change? I was following that asus p67 guide by some offical asus guy but he did it to show how to overclock to 4.8 or so. I don't want 4.8...lol that's definitely 80c or so for me <.<
 
Whatever your motherboard supports as the smallest notch. For some (like a Gigabyte motherboard that I had) it was .025v. Most others are a lot less than that. Well, if your motherboard notches are really small, I would start with .01 drops until instability, and then .005 increases until stability.
 
Boojak said:
would that really help reduce the cpu temps?

this is depressing and frustrating :( :( :(
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How many times do people need to say it, your temps are fine! (OCD much? :p /facetiousness)

My I7 950 is idling at 37C with a room temp of 18C. I hit 70C with IBT just now running the 'maximum' setting.

I wouldn't let those temps frustrate you.
 
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Boojak said:
My room is an attic and I have 3 huge windows. The weather is frigging COLD and WINDY.

Know what I did? I opened all of the windows to let cold air blow my entire room away!

oh shit, my old monitor just fell from the table

anyways, I'm checking the temps right now. 27-29c max idle.... minimum temp was 16c lol.
when I close the windows and the room gets a bit warmer, the temps went back to max idle 34c or so as usual. this doesn't make a huge difference... oh god, i was freezing!

eh, i don't know. why do i have to time/set the RAM sticks? would that really help reduce the cpu temps?

this is depressing and frustrating :( :( :(
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You need to stop being so ridiculous about this :p

I know low temps are awesome and all but your temps are totally fine, I wouldn't worry about it too much. I'm running my CPU a 4.4GHz and my temps are pushing 74-77 under load.
 
Lol, but but still! Running 70c hot 24/7 wouldn't be a good idea, right?

I guess I'll re-apply the TIM via a different method (1 small bb dot on the middle, 4 tiny bb dots on the corners).

Then I'll try to set the vcore manually. In the meanwhile, I also will read more into the OC guide.

Guys, should I also time my RAM sticks? I have 16gb of ram cards (they are rated 1600MHZ, but underclocked to 1333MHZ each I think). However, according to CPUZ they are 663 mhz or something. Why? Does this mean that speedstep also affect the RAM cards? Not just CPU.

Thanks for all of ur help again, guys...
 
I'm still scratching my head, many people at overclock.net said that they have never suprassed 40-50c at 4.5~4.8 with equalivent coolers... doesn't make sense. It can't be the voltages or my room temp...

anyways is it okay to run 70c 24/7?
 
Boojak said:
I'm still scratching my head, many people at overclock.net said that they have never suprassed 40-50c at 4.5~4.8 with equalivent coolers... doesn't make sense. It can't be the voltages or my room temp...

anyways is it okay to run 70c 24/7?
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FIX YOUR VOLTAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is going to do a hell of a lot more than reapplying thermal paste over and over again.

With that said, every single cpu is unique. Sometimes you might get a fabled golden chip which will do high frequencies and need a low voltage to maintain stability under load. Other times you might get a dud which will do just fine at stock frequencies and multipliers but require a huge voltage increase to OC and to be stable under load. Most of the time you are in the middle.

Like others have said, get your cpu vcore as low as possible without getting errors or blue screens in ibt/prime95/whatever.

You can worry about memory timings later. Unless your dram ratio is pushing your memory frequency beyond its rating you should be fine for now. If you are overclocking your ram by running it at higher than its rating, you might have to loosen some timings.


Also, I really can't imagine anyone running at under 50C at load at 4.5GHz on air cooling. As great as sandy bridge is.... 40C I would just call BS.

Finally, yes, 70C should be just fine. Hell, you could probably get by just fine with 80C. At 90 I would be concerned.

PS. Have the people who are claiming 40C under load (which I call BS) providing proof? Like a screenshot of ibt having run for 10 minutes and their temperature results?

Also, as I requested before, please provide links to the sources that have you in such a tizzy about temperatures.

PPS. Something to consider. IBT generally produces a lot more heat (like 5-8C in my case) than prime95. I've been looking over a few overclock.net threads and a lot of the posters are using prime95.

PPPS. Please provide links! So far I haven't found anyone claiming 50C at load, much less 40C at load. Hell, guys with decent water cooling setups (a lot better than high end air coolers or the h70) are pretty satisfied with 60C at load at 4.5GHz. Additionally, a lot of these guys are using prime95, which in my experience doesn't produce as much heat as IBT.

PPPPS. What thermal paste are you using? You might have mentioned it somewhere in here, but I don't feel like re-reading the whole thread. Anyway, some thermal pastes have a cure time, so you won't see optimal temperatures for days or even weeks.
 
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IBT does produce more heat that Prime95.On the same frequency and voltage,IBT gives me 10 degrees higher than Prime95 does.
 
JapaneseGorilla pretty much said it all. Take my advice about the voltages, and do it already. 4.5 ghz at under 40 C is only plausible with a TEC or phase-change setup, not conventional cooling. Take everyone else's advice, and don't worry about your temps.
 
Like JapaneseGorilla just said, I highly doubt anyone on air cooling is hitting 4.8ghz or anything close to that under 50C load. Your acting like like omg, what shall I ever do, these temps are unbearable, this can not be, I'm done with. "Calma" If I was getting 4.8 around 70C I would be happy.

Also you said your in an attic, yes this will affect temps if your room temp is higher than average.

Power is directly proportional to the voltage in the system. Power is in watts, watts is joules/sec, heat can be measured in joules.Basic physics. Thats why we are telling you, if you can lower your voltages, b/c we have no idea what you have them at, it should help. How much? Dunno it can vary depending on how good the chip is that you have.

Secondly, chips are not all equal. Believe it or not, but the process of manufacturing a CPU is extremely problematic and an insanely sensitive process. Chip A next to chip B on the silicon wafer may perform completely different. Nano fabrication is not an easy thing to do.

You say for yourself your new to overclocking and asking for advice, we are supplying it, so take it.

Post links if you are really seeing threads with some of the stuff you are claiming because we can take a look at them and look at them in detail.
 
My 2500k is at 65C four a couple hours at a time each day when I play games. Nothing to worry about. These newer chips run pretty warm.
 
Funny thing is people with non intel boards were stuck at 4.8 but people on intel boards reached 5.4. Then intel released the bios code for the pll overvoltage fixed.
 
Tsumi said:
I would not listen to anything spooony says at this point, it seems like he/she is just trying to spam and while not trying to make it seem like he/she is spamming.

As was pointed out earlier, manually set your vcore. Start off with what it was set in CPU-Z for idle, and slowly lower it one increment at a time until it causes errors in 5 passes LinX/IBT/BSOD. Then go up one notch, and run 20 passes to see if its stable. If not, go up another notch. Lower vcore = lower temps, even at the same frequency.
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fine if you say so. Just trying to help. I know starting with the cpu first your not going have a high stable overclock like if you would start with your ram first. Maybe I'm talking crap, call it what you want my apologies if I tripped of your ego.
 
Spooony said:
fine if you say so. Just trying to help. I know starting with the cpu first your not going have a high stable overclock like if you would start with your ram first. Maybe I'm talking crap, call it what you want my apologies if I tripped of your ego.
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One thing at a time. He's not even set overclocking his CPU yet, why are you talking about RAM? When he asks about overclocking RAM, and he's done with overclocking his CPU, then we can talk RAM. At this point, you're just throwing unnecessary stuff out there.
 
second that about spoony's posting though.
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what's with the usb boot link to amazon though? :confused:
 
Agreed that he needs to get his voltages straightened out, then move on to memory OCing. And just to reinforce the general consistence here Do Not Worry About Those Temp's, your just fine, and you can run that comp 24/7 without problems. Don't forget that your not going to be putting full load on your cpu all the time.

If your going to run head first into overclocking, you can't be so worried, you have to just do it, and take the leap.
 
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