HP ProLiant MicroServer owners' thread

Mine comes right out just squeezing the sides together and pulling up.
 
i just bought a 2GB Non-ECC ram stick. The specs for this RAM is exactly like the stock HP RAM except it is not ECC.

It's probably not a good idea to install both? I read around that installing the non-ECC ram into slot '1' and the ECC ram into slot '2' will by default run as non ECC for both sticks?
 
danman said:
Mine comes right out just squeezing the sides together and pulling up.
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Thanks for the response.

The female plug on mine is slightly bent. I just needed to lightly touch it with a screwdriver and it popped right out.

Everything is back together now and working like a charm. 8GB makes a huge difference.:D
 
I just purchased another one of these since I liked my first so much. Going to decommission my main server with 10 2TB drives, Areca controller, 16GB RAM, and a quad core and just use these two.
 
How long is the internal SFF-8087 cable? Is there enough room to hook it up to a RAID card where the SFF-8087 connector is in the back of the machine?
 
fibroptikl said:
How long is the internal SFF-8087 cable? Is there enough room to hook it up to a RAID card where the SFF-8087 connector is in the back of the machine?
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It is not terribly long... the connector is near the front of the case left side of mobo...

before you grab a raid card I would make sure you can disconnect it from the mobo... out of two microservers I was only able to get one 8087 to detach from the mobo...

the cable will require rerouting to make it long enough... but I have attached it to a SA P212 so it also depends on where it attaches to the card...

btw... I am an intern at hp...so if you have other server questions... I have lots of toys in the lab...
 
Patriot said:
It is not terribly long... the connector is near the front of the case left side of mobo...

before you grab a raid card I would make sure you can disconnect it from the mobo... out of two microservers I was only able to get one 8087 to detach from the mobo...

the cable will require rerouting to make it long enough... but I have attached it to a SA P212 so it also depends on where it attaches to the card...

btw... I am an intern at hp...so if you have other server questions... I have lots of toys in the lab...
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I would be bringing the cable from the front of the machine to the back - where the SFF-8087 ports are on the LSI RAID Card I want to use (LSI 8708EM2). From what I can tell it should work. If it can fit on the P212 - which is exactly where the SFF-8087 connector is on the LSI 8708EM2 - I should have no problems.
 
Patriot said:
It is not terribly long... the connector is near the front of the case left side of mobo...

before you grab a raid card I would make sure you can disconnect it from the mobo... out of two microservers I was only able to get one 8087 to detach from the mobo...

the cable will require rerouting to make it long enough... but I have attached it to a SA P212 so it also depends on where it attaches to the card...

btw... I am an intern at hp...so if you have other server questions... I have lots of toys in the lab...
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I had the same problem with disconnecting the 8087 from the motherboard. The female part of the cable would not release the two retaining pins. I very gently wedged my smallest screwdriver between the male and female parts and this released the cable. On my system, it hardly required any force at all, so if you do try this method, don't force it!
 
I ordered the MicroServer and 4GB of memory on Monday from NewEgg and it will arrive on Friday.

I also picked up 4 2TB Samsung drives on Tuesday at MicroCenter.
 
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I added a HP P410 SmartArray Raid controller and one of those 5.25 4 x 2.5 drive bays in the space for the optical disk. All works fine for the 4 internal bays and the 4 new 2.5 inch disks.

But I've tried 2 different external esata boxes on the esata connector on the back of the server and in each case it sees only 1 of the 2 internal drives in these boxes even though the boxes are setup as one 4TB volume. Is this correct? Tried using Win2008R2 and WHS2011 RC.
By the way I get transfer rates from internal drives to esata drive of 90MB/s versus 25MB/s to the same boxes over USB....But USB sees the full volume of 4TB while esata does not. :confused:
 
howamidifferent said:
I added a HP P410 SmartArray Raid controller and one of those 5.25 4 x 2.5 drive bays in the space for the optical disk. All works fine for the 4 internal bays and the 4 new 2.5 inch disks.

But I've tried 2 different external esata boxes on the esata connector on the back of the server and in each case it sees only 1 of the 2 internal drives in these boxes even though the boxes are setup as one 4TB volume. Is this correct? Tried using Win2008R2 and WHS2011 RC.
By the way I get transfer rates from internal drives to esata drive of 90MB/s versus 25MB/s to the same boxes over USB....But USB sees the full volume of 4TB while esata does not. :confused:
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The eSATA probably does not support Port Multiplier - not terribly uncommon from the OEM's.

*Edit - since the MicroServer has two PCI-e slots, a cheap $20 eSATA card that supports PM will fix your issue. I've actually got a stack of such cards from when I bought a half dozen Rosewill 5-bay eSATA chassis' from NewEgg last year...
 
Strange, I swapped the position of the 2 drives in one of the boxes and it worked fine then????
I was able to initialise and format the 4TB and copy to it over esata. Took 10.5 hours for 4TB (3.63TB) using robocopy....
 
Patriot said:
the cable will require rerouting to make it long enough... but I have attached it to a SA P212 so it also depends on where it attaches to the card...
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Great, thanks for the info, I was also looking at the P212, is the raid 5 option on the cache card or its like the other raid card, software bios activiate ?

The website says 256MB battery-backed write cache (BBWC) module for RAID 5, 5+0. but I wasn't 100% sure.. let me know, thanks..
 
rsutoratosu said:
Great, thanks for the info, I was also looking at the P212, is the raid 5 option on the cache card or its like the other raid card, software bios activiate ?

The website says 256MB battery-backed write cache (BBWC) module for RAID 5, 5+0. but I wasn't 100% sure.. let me know, thanks..
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All raid except for 6 will work without cache ... zmr mode... the cache can be forced on without battery... there is an advanced licence key that enables raid 6, stripe migration, and a few other trixy things that most people will never use... lol...

But in case you just love raid 5 i suggest using10
 
hi all,
I am going to buy this microserver, but I have a question.
Someone that use FreeNAS has found a solution to use slimNAS (squeezebox server) to stream to a squeezebox duet?

here
http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=1026
they say that do not run on the FreeNAS AMD64 Build

and the Proliant has an AMD64 Build, so how to use FreeNAS and stream to a squeezebox?
Thanks
 
Patriot said:
All raid except for 6 will work without cache ... zmr mode... the cache can be forced on without battery... there is an advanced licence key that enables raid 6, stripe migration, and a few other trixy things that most people will never use... lol...

But in case you just love raid 5 i suggest using10
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Nice, ill see what I can grab.. a 212 or a 410.. I have other raid cards but nothing for internal port. I do have license for raid6 that I can use, but I doubt ill go 6, unless I got 5 drives on it. Maybe if I have an external port off one of the hp cards, ill put up a sas enclosure.. sweet.
 
Just got mine this morning, it looks like the backplane is just sata cables.. might be able to use other types of controller.. I have some 3ware that uses those 32pin sas cable that branchs to 4 sata.. ill have to test those out.
 
anything with mini-sas should work... but as this is an amd raid solution on the motherboard and not a bl110 there is just sata on the backplane... no drive lights...
so another controller and cable should work... have fun routing.... it is tight.
 
are there any issues if I were to install the included 160GB HDD onto the discrete SATA port?


I have already installed W7Ultimate and it is running just the way I want it, would the mobo still find the drive as a bootable drive? are there any changes that I would have to make?

Apparently the SATA port uses some SATA to PATA bridge(meaning it runs on a legacy IDE mode i guess??)...
 
misctwo said:
are there any issues if I were to install the included 160GB HDD onto the discrete SATA port?


I have already installed W7Ultimate and it is running just the way I want it, would the mobo still find the drive as a bootable drive? are there any changes that I would have to make?

Apparently the SATA port uses some SATA to PATA bridge(meaning it runs on a legacy IDE mode i guess??)...
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you would be changing controllers... anyone's guess... one way to find out...
 
Scratch this idea.. the sas cable that goes to the back plane is like glued in.. non removable looks like ill need a p212 or p410 card first..
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Patriot said:
anything with mini-sas should work... but as this is an amd raid solution on the motherboard and not a bl110 there is just sata on the backplane... no drive lights...
so another controller and cable should work... have fun routing.... it is tight.
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Found a spare p400 controller.. gonna order the cable while I sell the E500 (external only). Buddy just told me he works at hp and can get me 20% off things.. gonna see how much a 212 or p410 is off him.. but Ill try the p400 first..
 
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I use this
Also try looking at this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817998143
Spec’s
HDD Interface: Four 2.5" SAS / SATA / SSD
HDD Thickness Height: up to 15 mm ( w/ HDD Tray Cover off )
HDD Capacity: up to 1 TB (HDD x1), 4 TB (HDD x4)
RAID Levels: 0, 1, 5, 10
Transfer Rate: up to 6 Gbps (Max) for SAS & 3 Gbps (Max) for SATA I / II / SSD
Power Connector: 15-pin Serial ATA (x1)
OS Compatible: Linux, Macintosh, Windows 7 / 2008 / Vista / 2003 / XP / 2000
Cooling Fan: 40 x 20 mm (x2) / Speed: 2500±15% RPM / Noise Level: 18.00 dBA
LED Indicators: Hard Drive Status Indicator for each individual 2.5" HDD Tray
Security Lock: Built-In for each 2.5" HDD Tray
Material: Aluminum & ABS Plastic
Dimension: 5.75 (W) x 6.89 (D) x 1.65 (H) inches
Weight: 1.74 lbs.
 
Groover said:
hi all,
I am going to buy this microserver, but I have a question.
Someone that use FreeNAS has found a solution to use slimNAS (squeezebox server) to stream to a squeezebox duet?

here
http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=1026
they say that do not run on the FreeNAS AMD64 Build

and the Proliant has an AMD64 Build, so how to use FreeNAS and stream to a squeezebox?
Thanks
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Just install the x86 FreeNAS, not the AMD64 FreeNAS.

Andy
 
Anyone installed the latest Debian6 amd64 with Samba on this lovely little box? I am able to connected and browse thru the directories from my windows7 client. But each time I change the directory with the "back" button, the windows7 client freezes for about 1-2s. Also when issueing a mount, this takes about 30s until the windows7 client finds the share. Read a lot about performance troubles samba/win7. Any working smb.conf out there?

Other topic. Yes you can add a 3.5" HD into the 5.25" ODD case. You need a 3.5" to 5.25" adapter and some small screws. Then a SATA-Data-Cable with a angle cable, and a P-ATA Power to SATA-Power convertor. Both is not included. If need could provide some pics.

Thanks, Pat
 
pschlae said:
Other topic. Yes you can add a 3.5" HD into the 5.25" ODD case. You need a 3.5" to 5.25" adapter and some small screws. Then a SATA-Data-Cable with a angle cable, and a P-ATA Power to SATA-Power convertor. Both is not included. If need could provide some pics.

Thanks, Pat
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Quite interested about the pictures. please upload :)





Another thing: I have got this lovely box with freebsd 8.2 64 bit 4 GB ram ( but not using ZFS prefetch yet as the ram in a bit less because of the video card ,i still need to limit its ram usage to the minimum 32mb ).

I found that over nfs I have speed of 45MB/s over a gigabit connection with the onboard nic. I have not tried any raw transfer like iperf, so it might be just because of NFS. But to me it looks very unlikely the nfs protocol is the bottleneck.
So, I wonder about the hardware... I am not very expert about hardware but afaik to make full use of the speed on the onboard nic other specs like cpu speed and the bus width on the motherboard must be right ( if true using pci-x might help then ).
But in this case ANY OS should get good performances, while WHS looks working fine at 90MB/s ... so no hardware then.


Any hint about that ?
 
I have an HP microserver and wanted to put Win 7 Pr x64on it and use it for work files and backups.... I added another identical 1GB ECC RAM, installed the OS onto the 250GB drive in AHCI and then moved it to the ODD bay as I assumed I couldn't just have 1 drive in bays 1 and 2, and then 2*2TB drives in bays 3 and 4 (but I now realise I could have just had drive 1 in RAID0....). I loaded the 2*2TB drives and switched to RAID in the BIOS, and configured the RAID1 in raid manager (ctrl+F during boot). I can see all 3 drives in device manager, but not in Win explorer… and I couldn't acces the RAID at all.

So I have just reinstalled the OS onto the RAID pair to see if that works… I can see this gives me a 2 TB RAID1, but I can't connect properly to my other machine which is a Win 7ultimate laptop.

The 2TB drives are caviar green wd20ears… I bought them before I heard that there may be a problem with not being able to turn on TLER….causing RAID1 instability problems....

My question is I'd like to have the OS on the 250GB drive, a pair of RAID1 2TB drives, and then be able to move the 250GB drive with the OS into the ODD bay when I want to add another couple of 2TB RAID1 drives....... and have this box talk to my Win7 ultimate laptop... any ideas if this is do-able and how, please?

newbie!
 
Nige said:
My question is I'd like to have the OS on the 250GB drive, a pair of RAID1 2TB drives, and then be able to move the 250GB drive with the OS into the ODD bay when I want to add another couple of 2TB RAID1 drives....... and have this box talk to my Win7 ultimate laptop... any ideas if this is do-able and how, please?
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You should get an S-ATA Datacable, and a P-ATA to S-ATA Power adapter. On the Motherboard there is a S-ATA connector - next to the battery. So connect the cable there - from your 250GB drive. I do have this setup. OS (Debian) on the ODD bay HD, and the data on a RAID system, with the four disks.
 
Hi Guys,

I really want one of these boxes to replace my readynas, but I want to use it in RAID 5, 4x2tb drives 6tb space with a parity "spare" I know the device doesn't support it, but would it work with one of these...

Highpoint RocketRAID Low Profile Card - RR2640x4SGL

Can the sata backplate be removed to allow connection of the disks to the card.. or can you recommend something else around £100 that will do the job? Cheaper the better, not too bothered about performance.

Or, is there a software solution that can do the job that doesn't require any modification. I was thinking about using the bundled disk as my os drive.(in the 5.25" bay)
 
pschlae said:
Anyone installed the latest Debian6 amd64 with Samba on this lovely little box? I am able to connected and browse thru the directories from my windows7 client. But each time I change the directory with the "back" button, the windows7 client freezes for about 1-2s. Also when issueing a mount, this takes about 30s until the windows7 client finds the share. Read a lot about performance troubles samba/win7. Any working smb.conf out there?
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I just disabled the firewall on windows7 client. And WOW! get now 100mb/s+ speed with samba.
 
Any of you guys had improvement of performances by using dedicated pcie sata controller versus the motherboard one?

Of course the 1gigabit speed is just an ideal thing and such speed, even with 7200 rpm hard disks, is not possible.
There are many factors like cabling, os, filesystem, raid if any, protocol used for the transfer (ftp, nfs, cifs, http )
But hard disks are really the bottleneck, that's why a good gigabit lets you transfer 8giga file at around 4/50 MB/s.
 
gettons said:
Any of you guys had improvement of performances by using dedicated pcie sata controller versus the motherboard one?
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That was my idea too. I have a spare Adaptec PCI-E SATA controller. But will wait until the memory will arrive. So I only have to open the box once. Here are some performance results, attched the 250Mbyte to the internal SATA ODD port:

root@bunnyhouse-srv:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=zerofile.000 bs=10M count=3200
3200+0 Datensätze ein
3200+0 Datensätze aus
33554432000 Bytes (34 GB) kopiert, 1487.99 s, 22.6 MB/s

root@bunnyhouse-srv:~# dd if=zerofile.000 of=/dev/zero bs=10M
3200+0 Datensätze ein
3200+0 Datensätze aus
33554432000 Bytes (34 GB) kopiert, 361.218 s, 92.9 MB/s

not really fast in write I/O.
 
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