LG 32LE5300 32" 1080p LED HDTV - 1080p 2ms 120Hz // $549 with free shipping

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THIS USES AN IPS SCREEN (confirmed here--> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=19195746&postcount=16)

This is a popular 5 star review LED HDTV screen (check reviews at the link below)..... it is on sale for $100+ cheaper than newegg and any other retailer

This is a newer 2010 LED HDTV, not LCD
(they ARE different... i.e LED uses far less power, about 30-40% less power than LCDs of the same size. plus better contrast, typically much better color than LCDs, and usually much thinner screen than modern LCDs).

LG Electronics 32LE5300 32" LED HDTV
On sale for $549 ! This item qualifies for Free Shipping, Free 30 Day TV Returns and the Amazon TV Low Price Guarantee.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039RWAVS?ie=UTF8&linksearch=32_LED_LG&B0039RWAVS
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$100+ cheaper than newegg and others

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Yeah gotta agree not much of a deal here. And an LED LCD is still very much an LCD. The backlight is the only diff.
 
Where does it say Edgelit? Not anywhere on that page..... and some of the 32LE5300 use IPS panels which are considered "the best" for any type of LCD.

And if you look at the specs and prices in the chart in that link.... the very similar non-LED LCD by LG with almost identical specs costs $20 more! So how is paying $20 less for a MUCH better TV not a good deal? Let alone the price is over $100 cheaper than any other store right now.

LEDs look much, much better than most LCD.... I have been in a room with all of the current TVs (all of them) and the LEDs most definitely stand out, esp the big $2,000+ LEDs
 
When they say you get what you pay for, this is it. Great screen size, full HD, and the best lighting and panel available for a very competitive price. This is [H]ot
 
Way to thread crap on things you THINK you know.... sorry, not trying to be an ahole at all but you are wrong Jetski, on many things said above. I don't care to lay it all out, but most of what you said also "is a lot of tech jargon" and hearsay from what you've seen others TYPE.

Besides ....... being wrong (a little) about the tech, you cannot find this same HDTV for anywhere near the price, so you're wrong there too.

By the way, here's a verified buyer review on this panel:
"Pros: This TV is great. I haven't even bothered adjusting any settings and all the colors look perfect. I am using this computer as a computer monitor and so far so good. Text is very easy to read on this, movies are wonderful to watch, and World of Warcraft looks great. Speaker quality is not up to dedicated speaker standards but what on board speakers are? These are at least better than my last TVs speakers.

Cons: Can't think of any.

Other Thoughts: I was a little hesitant about forking out about $300 more than the comparable LCD TV from either LG or Samsung but overall I am very happy with my purchase. The color quality, sound quality, and just overall look of this TV are way better."
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So it looks like you were wrong also about it being a crappy PC monitor.
 
Another recent review:

"My Sony Wega expired a couple weeks ago, so when it came time to browse for my new television I searched for the lastest in tv tech. LED-LCD was the response I was always given from sales reps and friends. After having been witness to (and/or previously owned) Sony SXRD, Sony LCD, Samsung DLP and Samsung Plasma televisions I agree that LED-LCD offers the best PQ I've ever seen. The only concern is cost. That's part of what made this product appealing. "
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Ok, so in the end you posted nothing but hate for the reliable, well-reviewed product. = its a threadcrap.... your "fact" is just useless banter and thread crapping for this thread. If you have something better you surely paid a lot more for, good for you, but you don't have to point out this cheaper sets lower stats in a thread showing you a hot deal at a good price (which you still cannot prove "factually" since you cannot beat the price or even come anywhere close)

I am not "coolaiding" anyone, just stating facts I have seen (with my owns eyes, in person) and posting countless positive reviews from others whom have actually bought and used this LED

One can ignore us anyways and just read the 30+ positive Google review comments on this LED to know this is a quality HDTV. It will surely produce a much more awesome picture than what you describe obviously ----->>>

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=32LE5300&cid=7512977331082527292&os=reviews&start=30

FACT: Many people do not agree with Jetski71 in the link above. Yes there are BETTER TVs but they are $250-$2500 more without a doubt.
 
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Way to thread crap on things you THINK you know.... sorry, not trying to be an ahole at all but you are wrong Jetski, on many things said above. I don't care to lay it all out, but most of what you said also "is a lot of tech jargon" and hearsay from what you've seen others TYPE.

Besides ....... being wrong (a little) about the tech, you cannot find this same HDTV for anywhere near the price, so you're wrong there too.

By the way, here's a verified buyer review on this panel:


So it looks like you were wrong also about it being a crappy PC monitor.
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an end user review claiming zero cons is usually not the most biased source of information.
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Nah, no hate nor useless banter. But no need to misconstrue or put words in my mouth, it's just a good ole forum disagreement.
 
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Put words where? All the words are here for everyone to see :D

The fact part you posted was not needed man... useless as nobody cares about it not having internet apps (who uses twitter on their TV? I thought twitter was for posting stuff you do outside of your home?)

or that is has low contrast, when it has a really high contrast for LCDs (since we are talking about LCDs in general now)

I just don't see the reasoning behind the entire debate you started lol... whatev, have a good one. PS: SEND ME A DAMN JETSKI! :D
 
Luxor said:
Put words where? All the words are here for everyone to see :D

The fact part you posted was not needed man... useless as nobody cares about it not having internet apps (who uses twitter on their TV? I thought twitter was for posting stuff you do outside of your home?)

or that is has low contrast, when it has a really high contrast for LCDs (since we are talking about LCDs in general now)

I just don't see the reasoning behind the entire debate you started lol... whatev, have a good one. PS: SEND ME A DAMN JETSKI! :D
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ok ok, i'll back off in the future i promise, especially because you've been posting the best deals lately. keep saving me money and i'll send you a waverunner :p.

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so this tv is on sale at amazon today for 490$. I think I may pick it up.

http://bensbargains.net/deal/172767/

The panel lottery sucks though....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1268529




Amazon chat support wasn't able to provide the info I needed - but hopefully their specialty shopping service can help me in the morning!


Live ChatEnd ChatYou are now connected to Anand from Amazon.com.
Me:LG 32LE5300 TV question12:16:26 AM
Anand:Hello, my name is Anand. I'll be happy to help you. 12:16:30 AM
Me:Hello,12:16:37 AM
Me:I have a question about your LG 32LE5300 tv that is on sale for $490 right now12:16:47 AM
Me:I have been reading that it is adverised as a IPS panel (one of the best panels) hence the higher price for a 32" tv.12:17:08 AM
Me:but that many people get a lower quality VA panel instead and have to return it.12:17:19 AM
Me:LG admits to having both types of panels in the TV - even though they are all supposed to be IPS12:17:31 AM
Anand:please contact the manufacturer for this Jonathan.12:17:43 AM
Me:If I order one of these TV's is there a way I can make sure I get an IPS?12:17:46 AM
Me:it is based on a serial number on the box12:17:53 AM
Anand:Did you go through the product page thoroughly Jonathan?12:18:24 AM
Me:yes it doesn't list that detail level12:18:35 AM
Anand:OK. I'm sorry about that Jonathan.12:18:48 AM
Me:apparently many people have had the inferior VA panels and returned them to amazon12:18:50 AM
Anand:please consult the relevant people who have done this Jonathan.12:19:22 AM
Anand:I'm sorry because, we just ship the product that customer asks.12:19:36 AM
Me:well that's why I'm contacting support12:19:36 AM
Me:some of the forum members of avsforum say they've contacted amazon support and they have ensured a certain serial number comes to them to avoid the issue12:20:04 AM
Anand:Can you please try searching for the product in the product text box and click 'Go' button12:20:19 AM
Me:The IPS panels have a W in the serial number and the VA panels have a D in the serial number12:20:22 AM
Me:i did just now12:20:54 AM
Anand:OK.12:21:03 AM
Me:here is LG's response to one of the forum members - "Thank you for contacting LG Electronics. I will be glad to answer your concern.12:22:13 AM
Me:Your 32LE5300 has a VA panel. You can tell because of the D in your product code. (32LE5300-UC AUSDLH) According to my documentation, if it had a W, instead of a D, it would be an IPS panel.12:22:13 AM
Anand:I understand your query Jonathan.12:22:30 AM
Me:So I would only want to order this TV if I could get the IPS panel that it is advertised with because that is an expensive, fast panel with good viewing angles compared to the inferior panel that would be in a tv for half this tv's retail price.12:22:56 AM
Anand:You can select the required product by going through the product and its contents till the tail end of the page.12:23:15 AM
Me:where can I find that specific info on the serial number designation of W or D?12:24:18 AM
Me:I don't see that in the description?12:24:22 AM
Anand:We just ship the product and could give clarity on the shipment and its tracking and its date of delivery Jonathan. For description, you please go the product page, and just scroll down to the half of the page.12:25:03 AM
Me:it doesn't say that12:26:57 AM
Me:which version I'd be receiving12:27:04 AM
Me:I guess what it amounts to is if I order this and it comes with a VA panel I'll be able to tell before I even open the box12:27:21 AM
Me:because the serial number will say D in ti12:27:27 AM
Me:it*12:27:29 AM
Me:if it says D rather than w then I'll just send it back12:27:39 AM
Me:but that's not to amazon's advantage?!?! because they have to pay return shipping by current policy12:27:54 AM
Me:if they ship me a w then all would be well.12:28:02 AM
Me:is it not possible to just verify a w is getting sent in the first place?12:28:12 AM
Me:if you look at the reviews on this tv --- all the negative reviews list this delima...12:28:26 AM
Me:I'm sure some people wouldn't care - but for those of us who do --- it's a deal breaker.12:28:43 AM
Anand:please wait while I provide a solution for this.12:29:24 AM
Anand:A member of our Specialty Shipping team will be the perfect person to help you with this. However, they don't have chat support. I can send them an e-mail for you, give you the phone number.12:29:40 AM
Anand:phone: 866-423-535512:29:46 AM
Anand:Monday-Friday: 6 am-5 pm (PST) 6:30 pm to 5:30 am IST12:29:46 AM
Anand:Saturday and Sunday: 8 am-5 pm (PST) 8:30 pm to 5:30 am IST12:29:46 AM
Me:That's good information!12:32:12 AM
Anand:Thanks.12:32:18 AM
Me:Can you see information on when the current promotional price ends?12:32:31 AM
Me:will it still be avaiable at $490 tomorrow morning at the time their shop opens for the question?12:32:52 AM
Anand:For any queries about this, you can please contact the telephone number provided.12:33:11 AM
Me:eek:kay --- for your reference in the e-mail...here is a long avsforum link where this detail is discussed in depth. - http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1268529 AM
Me:do you have any idea on how long the sale will last?12:34:17 AM
Anand:Can you please provide the exact product just by locating it from Amazon website Jonathan?12:35:14 AM
Me:yes - sure12:35:28 AM
Anand:Thanks.12:35:32 AM
Me:http://www.amazon.com/LG-32LE5300-32-Inch-1080p-Black/dp/B0039RWAVS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top12:35:35 AM
Anand:I went through the link and I'm sorry that there is no last date for selling this product.12:36:34 AM
Anand:But, it is shipped and sold by Amazon.12:36:43 AM
Anand:So, you'll be replaced or refunded for any problems with this TV.12:37:09 AM
Me:so do you advise just ordering it tonight to ensure the sale price and then just returning it if I encounter one of the "va" panels?12:37:42 AM
Anand:But before that if you contact the manufacturer by specifying the model #, you can be confident in ordering it. Right.12:39:27 AM
Anand:As this is a very specific issue, a manufacturer would be able to help you out.12:39:51 AM
Me:No I'm not sure I'm communicating clearly. Amazon has both VA and IPS panels on this specific 32LE5300 TV. People have ordered from your site and got both kinds12:40:27 AM
Anand:Ok.12:40:39 AM
Me:it's a lottery because LG didn't manufactore them correctly12:40:41 AM
Me:there is a serial number printed on the outside of each box12:40:50 AM
Anand:OK.12:40:54 AM
Me:if the serial number has a D in it you got a crappy screen, if it has a W in it you got the appropriate screen12:41:13 AM
Me:but it is all in the same 32LE5300 TV --- just the actual LED panel is different because LG was trying to be shady or something happened in manufactoring12:41:51 AM
Me:So the model will always be the 32LE5300 - but the actual serial number shows whether you got the real quality display or not. It's a bit strange I understand12:42:44 AM
Me:sounds like I may just need to contact that specialty number tomorrow12:42:56 AM
Me:Thank you for your help.12:43:00 AM
Anand:You are most welcome.12:43:04 AM
Anand:I'm sure you'll be helped for this.12:43:11 AM
Me:eek:kay - good evening!12:43:23 AM
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Archaea said:
Amazon chat support wasn't able to provide the info I needed - but hopefully their specialty shopping service can help me in the morning!
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I would have ripped my hair out if I had to explain something like that to a tech that many times. :mad: Good luck, I hope you get the IPS panel.

This really reminds me of the latest Tom's system build marathon. Mushkin uses different RAM in its memory, and Tom's ordered some Mushkin 1600 expecting it to be high-end Samsung memory so that they could OC the 950 to the Moon. But they got RAM using another kind of memory and it destroyed the system's OC potential.
 
Wow you had good patience with that so called CS, you basically had to completely suck that info from that him.
 
except I got the customer specialty number who I just got off the phone with. He said they can't ensure I would get a IPS panel, but that he would investigate this information - and even took down the AVS forum link to ensure that Amazon investigates this issue with LG. He said he was going to look into this and call me back. I'm not sure if that means I should order now cause they'll pull the plug while they investigate, or if I should just hold back on my order and hope I get word that they can ensure I get an IPS. Really it's in Amazon's best interest as well as mine to ship the product I order - otherwise I can refuse delivery or request a return at their expense based on a serial number on the outside of the box
 
Amazon specialty support just called back - they can't assist with ensuring I get the proper panel, but they have moved this issue up the food chain at amazon. They advised I just order 2 or 3 at a time, and send back the ones that aren't IPS through their free shipping returns. I'd only be out the purchase price until I sent them back - on a credit card that woudn't be too bad. Seems a poor way to chance the purchase --- but then I'm not out any money in that system so I guess if that's the way amazon needs to make it happen?!?!?!?
 
I ordered three with next day shipping for only $11.xx extra for the total order. Came out to be about $148x.xx

Here's hoping I get at least one IPS panel.
 
THIS USES AN IPS SCREEN (confirmed here--> http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...6&postcount=16)

This is a popular 5 star review LED HDTV screen (check reviews at the link below)..... it is on sale for $100+ cheaper than newegg and any other retailer

This is a newer 2010 LED HDTV, not LCD
(they ARE different... i.e LED uses far less power, about 30-40% less power than LCDs of the same size. plus better contrast, typically much better color than LCDs, and usually much thinner screen than modern LCDs).

LG Electronics 32LE5300 32" LED HDTV
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On sale for $549 ! This item qualifies for Free Shipping, Free 30 Day TV Returns and the Amazon TV Low Price Guarantee.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0039RWAVS?ie=UTF8&linksearch=32_LED_LG&B0039RWAVS

$100+ cheaper than newegg and others
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shows even lower.... $489 shipped for me,I must be lucky today :D

And wait... OMG, for an IPS panel too (holy gee golly its an uber IPS too! wow, for the "professionals" and their fancy colors :eek: :p This just might beat that ASUS for bang-for-buck, just might..... ;) )
 
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supposed to be an awesome monitor - but you need to read my last few posts or link to the AVS forum for five pages worth of discussion...it's a panel lottery - you might get a crappy VA (TN) panel...so be prepared to play the return game with Amazon until you get a IPS panel. The serial number on the box will have a D if it is a VA panel and a W if it has the desired and advertised IPS panel.
 
Sorry, when I scrolled down and saw that huge chat I read the first few and just skipped down to the bottom.

According to LG on their very own site, this should no doubt be an IPS panel since it is 32".

http://www.lgknowledgebase.com/kb/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=6483

Which states this as of 12/24/2010 (I guess they will change it very soon so I'm quoting the site for anyones future references :) ):

Which LCDs have IPS panels?

"LG displays over 26” use IPS panels. Some 26” models use VA. Smaller screens use TN type panels."
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-----found on LG's own website here--->

http://www.lgknowledgebase.com/kb/index.php?View=entry&EntryID=6483
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If it's not an IPS when you get it, then call LG and demand a replacement of an IPS panel free of charge, or they are illegally false advertising, plain and simple.
 
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Some of the guys in the AVSforum are stating that LG won't help you out with that. Even pasting in LG's e-mailed written response saying that their product is indeed a VA panel, but they won't help them any further. They have some small text somewhere that say products manufactored may change panels from time to time without advance notice due to manufactoring conditions/availability or some nonsense like that - basically a escape clause that eliminates legal recourse ------ soo it's back to playing the lottery. The only way these companies will stop doing this is if the distributers like Amazon make a stink - cause it's Amazon that's eating the cost of LG's dishonesty in this situation. It happens too often.

Bait and switch. I'm pretty confident that they would ensure all the original review sites received a IPS panel. Then save money and sell a mixed group of IPS and the cheaper VA panels. Shame on LG.
 
Well that's pretty shady...

I found another IPS 32" for a tad cheaper (Panasonic too :) )

It's even cheaper right now for $399 shipped with the 30 day free returns and low price match. It says for sure it's an IPS too :D

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00391Z83G?ie=UTF8&linksearch=32_LED_LG&productpg=B00391Z83G

I am no display expert really, but would this be very similar quality to the LG for mostly as a monitor/little tiny bit of gaming/bluray, or is the LG a lot better???
 
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if you get the IPS panel on the LG it should be quite a bit superior. The LG is backlit LED technology which is the best of the LCD's. The oldest style currently selling is what that panasonic is (not as deep blacks) The Edgelit LED technology is slighty superior, but gives hotspots on dark backgrounds to some degree. The backlit LED technology that is on the LG in this thread is supposedly the best contrast and best unifomity of any of the current LCD technologies.

To my knowledge the TV in this thread - the LG 32LE5300 should be about the best of everything current generation - especially anywhere near this price (this statement assuming you get a IPS panel that makes or breaks the TV deal.)
 
Dylan80 said:
Well that's pretty shady...

I found another IPS 32" for a tad cheaper (Panasonic too :) )

It's even cheaper right now for $399 shipped with the 30 day free returns and low price match. It says for sure it's an IPS too :D

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00391Z83G?ie=UTF8&linksearch=32_LED_LG&productpg=B00391Z83G

I am no display expert really, but would this be very similar quality to the LG for mostly as a monitor/little tiny bit of gaming/bluray, or is the LG a lot better???
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Panny's IPS-alpha panel is considered superior to the S-IPS panel, BUT LG's current implementation is better than the U22 Panasonic, especially for monitor use.

Edit: Archaea beat me to it and goes into more detail above.
 
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Dylan80 said:
Well that's pretty shady...

I found another IPS 32" for a tad cheaper (Panasonic too :) )

It's even cheaper right now for $399 shipped with the 30 day free returns and low price match. It says for sure it's an IPS too :D

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...-20&linksearch=32_LED_LG&productpg=B00391Z83G

I am no display expert really, but would this be very similar quality to the LG for mostly as a monitor/little tiny bit of gaming/bluray, or is the LG a lot better???
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IPS it may be, but it's not a LED. Which is a big disadvantage when comparing to the LG, imo.
 
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I thought LED was just for power consumption stuff, If it was better I wouldn't mind a non-LED. I Suppose I'll wait and see what unravels this week.
 
SJetski71 said:
Panny's IPS-alpha panel is considered superior to the S-IPS panel, BUT LG's current implementation is better than the U22 Panasonic, especially for monitor use.

Edit: Archaea beat me to it and goes into more detail above.
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No its cool, you talked about different IPS, which i've never heard of as I thought it was just one single thing. I'm going to research IPS panels more I guess and figure out if which fits my needs. Thanks Sjetski. If I could buy 3 like you rich guys I'd try the lotto :D good luck
 
Dylan80 said:
No its cool, you talked about different IPS, which i've never heard of as I thought it was just one single thing. I'm going to research IPS panels more I guess and figure out if which fits my needs. Thanks Sjetski. If I could buy 3 like you rich guys I'd try the lotto :D good luck
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If you have a credit card you aren't out any money -- just pile them on and when you return them you get the credit back...I still only plan to keep one.
 
Ahhh, I always forget about the grace period :D I think mine is 24 days until they charge interest.

I can get 3 too, just barely with the amount on my card :D

Awesome idea, thanks
 
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I thought LED was just for power consumption stuff, If it was better I wouldn't mind a non-LED. I Suppose I'll wait and see what unravels this week.
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Nah, it isn't just power consumption. It also offers better contrast. I have a TN with LED backlit, and it is pretty awesome. I'm hoping to see an IPS with LED... which is what this offers.
 
so what is the deal with substantial contrast differences? some say low contrast around 9000:1 or so, but some are 90,000:1 or more. And they are supposed to be 1080p and the same type of panel from the same year and look similarly in detail. How so if the contrast is 10x higher on one?
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Dylan80 said:
so what is the deal with substantial contrast differences? some say low contrast around 9000:1 or so, but some are 90,000:1 or more. And they are supposed to be 1080p and the same type of panel from the same year and look similarly in detail. How so if the contrast is 10x higher on one?
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Those are dynamic contrast ratios which are never correct. What we would need are "actual" contrast ratios which are never posted. So in other words it's a detail you can safely ignore.

Curious to hear how it turns out for you. Just get ready for some tweaking because these are not plug and play like standard monitors. If you're having trouble making things look right, then start a thread in our display forum so we can help you out ;).
 
Please correct me if I've missed something here, but I looked at the LG website and the product information sates that this model is LED edge-lit.
Several websites state that is is LED back-lit, so are these two terms being used inappropriately?

Edge-lit allows for a thinner TV and energy savings but doesn't have the picture quality that LED back-lit panels (with local dimming) can achieve.
LED back-lit with local dimming is widely considered to produce the best LCD picture quality and deepest black levels.

Edge-lit on the other hand can be very effective or it can display significant light bleed on the edges of the display.

Where does that leave this model?
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It does not have local dimming. Not sure if it is edge lit. See the comparison chart on the amazon page.
 
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